Tuesday, January 10, 2012



"Lincoln was swift, radical, zealous, and determined."  Frederick Douglass.

"The hour and the man of our redemption had somehow met in the person of Abraham Lincoln."   Frederick Douglass


Douglass was fooled by Lincoln right?  If only he read that sentence in the letter to Greeley!

If only Douglass knew  sentence #136 in the Quincy Lincoln Douglas debate.

Yeah -- Douglass was just stupid or misinformed!


No, Douglass was there -- a genius of the 19th century.  

If "historians" now want to play this game of cherry picking a few words here, and there, let's play that game. Lincoln is radical, extreme, and "obsessed" with equality for the "Nigger"  said Stephen A Douglas.

In fact, per Stephen A Douglas and Jefferson Davis,  Lincoln was a traitor - yes, he used the word traitor -- for even saying blacks where human beings that have inalienable rights.


I bet no one ever told you, not once, not ever, that Lincoln's enemies said he was a traitor, and urging violent "revolution"  for saying blacks were human beings, persons. and had inalienable rights.

Newspapers said Lincoln "worshiped Negroes" while Stephen A Douglass wrote that Lincoln was a traitor -- and to his face,   Judge Douglas said Lincoln wanted your daughters to sleep with -- not Negroes-- Davis used the N word.

Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with and marry "Niggers".

Historians have cleaned it up- some newspapers cleaned it up, but some newspapers reported it frankly. 

This basic fact of history is not taught this way, but it was well known then.

The Lincoln Douglas debates were about this very point -- Stephen A Douglas accusing Lincoln of all manner of evils  for saying blacks should be persons under the law, and have all the rights of any person. 

No - that is no exaggeration, at all.

That's not  kinda what Stephen A Douglas said. That's not sorta what he said, out of context.

That is exactly what Stephen A Douglas said.

And Stephen A Douglas had a point, if you accept Dred Scott decision, as Douglas did.

 Where do the  "historians" like Foner, McPherson even mention that?

Do they mention Lincoln's long history of kicking slavery in the ass, as much as he could, as soon as he could, and as effectively as he could.

No -- they play "cherry pick"  the quotes. There are dozens, hundreds of Lincoln quotes where he is as powerful, effective and radical as can be.

Why not tell you those quotes?

Really, why not?


Douglass knew Lincoln ---- but even more, Douglass knew what Lincoln was up against.

More than anything, Douglass knew what Lincoln was up against.

The "historians" of today, never seem to have a clue.  For example, does Foner, McPherson and others ever mention that people were still being killed for speaking against slavery in much of the USA, when Lincoln and Douglas debated?

No -- neither have mentioned that, ever.

Did Foner or McPherson ever mention that Northern Congressmen wanted Lincoln arrested, if he even SAID,  slavery should end for the war to end?

No -- they never mentioned that.

Did Foner or McPherson ever mention  the most basic fact of all -- that Dred Scott decision ruled that blacks are not human beings (not persons) and ordered the federal government to protect slavery?

Neither Foner or McPherson has ever even mentioned that. 

Douglass measured Lincoln -- and said so -- by what he did, and what he had to face.

The "historians" of today are frankly so stupid, so lazy, so dishonest,  they just go by very cherry picked quotes that fit their bullshit

Cut that shit out, you dumb asses. Get your facts right, then lie all you want. But first, get your facts right.

Did you know that Lincoln stood up to President Polk about slavery and spreading slavery, doubling the area for slavery, in the Mexican War? Lincoln tried to stop that.

Did anyone ever tell you that? No.

Did McPherson ever tell you that? No.

Did Foner?  No.

Did Bruce Catton?  No.

Guess who knew about Lincoln standing up to President Polk?  Douglass.

Did Catton, Foner, or McPherson  ever mention that Lincoln tried to get slavery out of DC while he was a Congressmen in 1846?

NO.   They are too busy cherry picking quotes, ignoring others.

Did Catton Foner or McPherson ever mention  Lincoln was hated by many people, BECAUSE he dared speak honestly about the Mexican war, and how it was about slavery?

No.  In fact, Foner  McPherson nor Catton ever tell you in simple terms, the Mexican War, and essentially everything else from 1820-1861 was about the violent expansion of slavery?

NO.  They never mentioned it, that way.

Do you know who DID know that virtually everything in US history of that 60 year period, focused on the spread of slavery -- by violence?

Lincoln knew-- and said so.  Frederick Douglas knew.

Do you know who doesnt know that? You -- no one told you.

Did you know that most of LIncoln's Union officers would have deserted, or not fought, if he  had said early on, we will fight to end slavery?

Douglass knew that, he knew most whites, even in the North, would not walk across the street to piss on a slave if he were on fire, much less fight to end slavery. 



Lincoln's full speeches kick ass --   though you can take a sentence or two, and out of context, make it seem opposite, or nearly so, of his full speech.


If Lincoln  had spoke any more candidly about ending slavery, there are no battles, certainly after Bull Run, it would have been over

No way for Lincoln to call up 75,000 more men - if he had uttered the words "end slavery"   

US Grant admitted, he would never have fought, if he thought the war about about slavery -- though later, he said Lincoln was right, once started, the war had to be about slavery, and he agreed with Lincoln.

But at the start of the Civil War, it was, and had to be, about Union.

The South had turned it into a war about slavery -- contrary to what you heard.   Southern War ULtimatums, both in 1861, and in 1856, made it clear, they were going to war to spread slavery.   

See this  -- http://civilwarkillers.blogspot.com/

Lincoln had to speak of Union -- though he had made it very clear, keeping the Union together, was how we would end slavery.

See his "House Divided Speech"  which enraged the South, despite being very circumspect -- Southern leaders quoted Lincoln's House Divided speech to "prove" Lincoln was a radical abolitionist out to invade the South and deny the South their right to spread slavery.

No one who ever heard Lincoln speech was confused -- Lincoln's goal was to end slavery by stopping the growth of it.   He had no public will do to otherwise, no legal "writ" as he called it, no ability, to end slavery where it was.

But he would not obey South's War ultimatums to spread slavery into Kansas.

There, he drew the line.

If LIncoln spoke unwisely -- if he had been even rude --five other states would have seceded, and Lincoln could not get 50, much less 500,000 men to fight to keep the Union together, because the "Union" would have been a very small part of the US.

Few people realize the South was far larger than the North, geographically, and with five more states, if they had left too, the COnfederacy would be twice as large as the North, with 60% of the population.

The war was over before it began -- and everyone knew it -- if those "border states"  went with the Confederacy.

One wrong word from Lincoln -- and they all go.

In fact, Freemont almost blew the Civil War by grandstanding in Missouri, before Lincoln could win the Civil War.

Almost impossible to keep the border states in -- Lincoln had to be exceedingly careful what he did, and said.

That's what Frederick Douglass meant when he said -  

Lincoln's speeches -- read the whole things -- were extereme and powerful, in their totality.

Yes, you can take a sliver, a sentence, two.  But read the whole thing, and know the context.

No one -- not even Frederick Douglass  himself -- went where Lincoln went, when Lincoln went, speaking to who Lincoln spoke to.

You have no idea, because no one told you this, but at the time Lincoln spoke, it was still a crime in most of the USA to speak openly against slavery.

Did you know that?

No, it was not illegal in Illinois, but most people in Illinois never saw a black person, and it was illegal for blacks to move to Illinois.

Did you know that?

Furthermore, it was still dangerous to be "too much" against slavery, so that you might be called an "abolitionist".

To be called an abolitionist in some places was rather like being call a child molester now.  Even in 1880, when folks started writing about their memories of pre Civil War, writers would say it was hard to convey just how hated "abolitionist" were, mostly because hate and fear mongers equated abolitionism with blacks sleeping with white women.

And they did exactly that -- Stephen A Douglas used that again, and again, and again against Lincoln.

Still LIncoln spoke powerfully -- that keeping  Union meant, over time, an end to slavery. Keep the Union together, slavery can not spread, and must, over time, die, like a cancer dies when it can not spread.

The South used that speech -- about keeping the Union together to end slavery over time -- as proof LIncoln intended to end slavery.

Did you know that?  

No, you did not know. But Federick Douglass knew - and he knew a million more things, because he was there, he had been a slave, and he knew what scum sucking pigs LIncoln had to deal with, in the North.

We tell you, what Douglass knew, and you don't. 

No one else is telling you, what Douglass knew -- you probably had no clue.



                                         THAT YOU DON'T

1) Lincoln was radical for even saying blacks are human beings -- Stephen A Douglas accused  him of treason, seriously, just for that.

2)   The Supreme Court ruled that blacks were not persons -- but property, and according to Stephen A Douglas, Lincoln was committing treason to disagree -- to say blacks are human beings, with inalienable rights.

3)People were still being killed -- in most of the United States -- for speaking out against slavery.  In all of the South, and in Kansas, it was an illegal act to speak, write, or own books that even questioned slavery.

4) Other "abolitionist"  did not dare go where Lincoln went,  when he did, and how he did.

5) Lincoln's friend Lovejoy was killed by a mob for being against slavery.

In the Youtube video above, a clip from the 1940 movie, Lincoln (actor Raymond Massey) he SEEMED to agree that blacks are not equal, if you want to chop the quote at a certain point.

But Lincoln continued to speak -- and he did exactly this kind of manuever in almost every speech.

Lincoln -- wisely, and masterfully,  would SEEM to agree with some sentiment of the day, that blacks were not "perfectly" equal - for example.   Then Lincoln would say "we are not equal in color, we may not be equal in intelligence"    and then go on further, and bring down the house -- but in ALL RIGHTS UNDER GOD AND UNDER OUR DECLARATION   any black person is the equal to any white person.

What part of those quotes do these lying bastards tell you about?  

Foner -- McPherson -- on and on.   They do not tell you the thunder Lincoln brought.

Yes, he parsed words -- but from 1846 on, no one spoke more, more radically, more often, more effectively, than Lincoln, about slavery.

No one comes close -- not for the number of times he spoke, the power with which he spoke, and the crowds he spoke to.




Eventually,Lincoln was killed when he mentioned voting rights for blacks, and John Booth heard that speech, changed his plan from kidnapping, to killing.

Lincoln was parsing words -- very carefully mentioning the idea that "educated" blacks should vote.   

Even parsing did not help him this time, he was dead hours later.  But before he died, he kicked slavery in the ass.

He did not just stop the spread. He did not just end slavery where it was.

He did not just discredit every dumb ass fake religious ass wipe like Lee who claimed God wanted slavery and even wanted blacks punished for biblical sins (really).

Lincoln killed the Southern God of slavery.  He killed it by beating slavery folks so completely, they themselves would pretend they were never for slavery to begin with.

Try to grasp that.  

No one told you the above.  But Frederick Douglass knew. Listen to him -- read his FULL speeches about Lincoln.

Ironically, people will lift a quote from Douglass's speech, to make it seem like Lincoln was not "all that" after all.

Bullshit. No one compared to Lincoln, no one was even close, Douglass's view.   The only white man more "radical" than Lincoln was John Brown, and Brown lasted less than two hours, was caught, and hung in a week.

Lincoln took a different approach. He ran for office, parsed words, gathered the necessary support, and kicked slavery in the head, till it was dead, dead dead.

Lincoln kicked slavery so hard, so fast, so completely, that he  not only killed slavery, Lincoln killed the Southern GOD of slavery.


Lincoln hated at the time - for exactly the opposite reason stupid people hate him now.

"Mr Lincoln harps constantly on equality for the nigger, he  repeats over and over that the Declaration of Independence give the nigger inalienable rights.  Contrary to this stands the Supreme Court in the Case of Dred Scott"  

Stephen A Douglas, 1958 



Douglass knew that -- you don't. 

Where Lincoln was, and when he was there, matter.

It was easy for Phillips, Grayson, even Frederick Douglas, to sit back in New York or Maine, with crowds that paid to hear them speak, crowds that already agreed with them/.

None -- absolutely none - of the big abolitionist would dare go to Alton, or Charleston, or Quincy, and stand next to Stephen Douglas, who was screaming to the crowd (yes, screaming -- see below)  that LIncoln wanted your daughters to sleep with "Niggers".

You could still be killed in parts of Illinois, if someone in the crowd (does the name Booth ring a bell) didn't like what you said.  

So Lincoln DID parse words -- but read his full speeches., Lincoln kicked ass, and he kept kicking. No one kicked ass like Lincoln did in his full speeches. 

  A) In Kansas, it was a crime to speak against slavery, did you know that?In all of the south, same thing. In Illinois, it was legal, but still dangerous.

 B) The United States Supreme Court had already ruled the year before that blacks "are not persons"  . Stephen A Douglas accused Lincoln loudly and proudly of treason and "preaching revolution" simply by saying blacks were human beings.

C) Lincoln was trying to win votes and get help in the war, from millions of people who thought blacks were sorta "dogs that could talk"  and were not "human beings" but some kind of sub  human.

D) Lincoln got back into politics because of the killing sprees and spread of slavery by violence, into Kansas, and SOuthern leaders bragging they already at war to spread slavery into the rest of the American continent, and beyond.


Did you know that?  Hell no, you had no clue.

Trashing Lincoln is easy -- just select a few quotes, leave out his full speeches.  That is all there is to it.

Every ass wipe "historian" takes their shot at Lincoln -- invariably they grab a sentence, or half a sentence, by Lincoln or by Frederick Douglas, or even from Jeff Davis, to "prove" Lincoln was not really against slavery, after all.

Actually, no one comes close at being as effective, radical, and swift, as Lincoln.   But to know that, you have to know who was killing who, and why.

Real history is this -- who killed who, and why.  Unless you know that about the United States from 1840-1861, you don't know shit about US history

Local papers reported Stephen Douglas would spit, and seem to foam at the mouth, he would go from side to side of the stage, pulling his own hair, screaming that Lincoln loved Niggers more than the Constitution.

The way Lincoln haters today trash him, is exactly the opposite of how Lincoln haters at the time trashed him.

Those who trash LIncoln today, insist endlessly Lincoln "never cared" about slavery till well into the Civil War.

Actually, from 1854 on, Lincoln spent most every day, and every hour of every day, travelling and speaking against slavery.

Not sorta, not kinda, not in a way. Nearly ever waking hours, for years, Lincoln did little else but travel and speak against slavery, though newspapers then made fun of him, and his political enemies called him "nigger lover" obsessed with equality.

Did you know that?



Yes, he would later write a letter about Union -- see why below.  That was coy-- a play on words. Notice the word "IF"   IF I could. 

Lincoln had already said he could not keep the Union together -- UNLESS slavery ended. 

The famous "House Divided" Speech was all about that exact thing.  Slavery was being spread by violence and deception, Lincoln said.  They will stop at nothing.  

Such a country can not stand, he said. One will have to take over -- we will all be free, or we will all be slave.

According to Stephen A DouglasDid you know Lincoln was "radical"  Nigger lover?   And that Douglas called Lincoln that, regularly, to his face, and behind his back?

In fact, sometimes Douglas would get a little nuts, according to newspapers at the time. In Charleston, Douglas ran from one side of the stage to another, pulling his hair, and screaming that Lincoln cared more "Nigger rights"  that for white folks.

Even Northern newspapers made fun of Lincoln for being a "Negro Worshiper".

Bet no one ever told you that -- bet Eric Foner, who claimed Lincoln was "nothing special" about equality until well into the Civil War, never told you.

Lincoln wanted your daughters to sleep with and marry "Niggers"  said Douglas.

Do you think Douglas (Stephen A) did that accidently?  NO, he did this repeatedly, even when Lincoln was not there, but he also did it to Lincoln's face, and got the crowd laughing  -- and afraid -- of LInclon's "love of the Nigger".

Few in Illinois wanted "Niggers" moving to that state, and in fact, most had never seen a black person, other than an occasional black person passing through, it was illegal for blacks to moving into Illinois.

No one ever told you that, did they?

This was not a one time quip -- Douglas said this with great emphasis, as powerful as he could make it, and he was the most powerful "thunder speaker" of the day.



Stephen A Douglas.
Frederick Douglass
Jefferson Davis
Alexander Stephens.
New York Newspapers.
Illinois Newspapers.
Southern documents
Southern books at the time.


Lincoln the Nigger lover, obsessed with equality -- a "radical abolitionist".

This was the very essence of Northern and Southern hatred of Lincoln, at the time. He was for "Niggers".

Of course, anyone who was against slavery, the South called a "radical abolitionist" -- which was a lot like calling people a pedophile, at the time.

Lincoln Worshipes the Negro -- said New York papers. Those same papers later said Lincoln should let the South spread slavery into Kansas and the West, though Kansas was already a free state by then, and voted against slavery 95% .

Lincoln was a traitor to the US because he said blacks were equal to whites, said Stephen A Douglas.

You knew none of this -- did you?  Very basic, and very real, at the time.

Guess who knew all that?  Most people alive in 1850's knew that.

You just are not told of that now.



They used Lincoln's "obsession" with equality against him, and beat him, all the way to 1860.

In 1860, they would have beaten Lincoln again, but Lincoln  made Douglas admit --after a long effort -- that Kansas should be able to vote against slavery.

Did you know that?

Douglas (Stephen A) was considered a shoo in for President in 1860. The South loved him (till Lincoln trapped him in the debates).

The South loved Douglas to push "popular sovereignty" ruse,  in a way that did not allow the people in Kansas to actually vote against slavery.

Did you know that? 

Lincoln knew -- he showed this very clearly in the LIncoln Douglas debates, and challenged Douglas to take one said or the other -- can the people in Kansas vote against slavery, or not?

Douglas would not answer for a long time, tried every evasion possible.  Finally, Douglas relented, yes, they SHOULD be able to vote against slavery.

The entire importance of the LIncoln Douglas debates, was the Lincoln "flushed Douglas out"  and eventually cornered Douglas, so Douglas had to agree with LIncoln that yes, the people of Kansas should be able to vote slavery out, not just have the supposed right to, but not the actual right to.


When LIncoln exposed the ruse -- and Douglas had  no choice but to agree with Lincoln that people in Kansas should be able to reject slavery ---Douglas actually betrayed his partners,  Atchison and Davis.

The South never forgave Stephen Douglas, who was all set to be President in 1860. He had South behind him, AND his party in the North. He was considered unbeatable, until Lincoln cornered Douglas in the debates.

Douglas admission split the Dem party, North from South, and the split allowed Lincoln to win a four way race in 1860.

Did you know that -- did anyone ever tell you that Lincoln's persistence in exposing Douglas, and making him turn on Southern Democrats, is how LIncoln eventually got elected?

Not sorta, not kinda, not in a way. That is exactly how LIncoln got elected.

In fact, Jeff Davis supposedly then said he wished Douglas and Lincoln would come South, he would hang them both.

That may be a little complicated for teachers to explain, but not at all complicated if you know  what the hell was going on. And LIncoln sure as hell knew what was going on.




The US Supreme Court had ruled in 1857 that blacks are not even human beings (not persons) under the law.  Did you know that, or not?

Yeah,  yeah, you heard some stuff about "citizenship" -- but Lincoln explained it very well - so did Jefferson Davis.

Interestingly, BOTH Lincoln and Davis said the Dred Scott decision was about whether blacks are persons, or not persons.

Did you know that?  Davis used the Dred Scott decision to justify the killing sprees carried out by Davis Rice Atchison, US Senator, in Kansas.

Bet you didn't know that.

Guess who knew that?  Frederick Douglas.

Dred Scott decision specifically said blacks are property, and pledged the federal government to protect that property.


Frederick Douglas knew -- so did everyone else in the USA.   Southern leaders boasted that blacks were not persons, and justified their violence to spread slavery into Kansas because of that decision.

Some  papers in the North claimed LIncoln "Worshipped the Negro."  

Even during the Civil War, some Northern Congressmen wanted Lincoln arrested, if he even spoke the words, "slavery must end, for the war to end".

Did you know that?  No text book in the US mentions that, either. 



Lincoln's style is "easy pickings"  because Lincoln almost always seemed to agree with some sentiment of the day, only to knock it down in the next sentence.

For example, Lincoln could say "I never said I believed in perfect equality."   Or "If I had to choose which race was superior, I would choose my own."

Those kinds of quotes are what LIncoln haters use now.

Lincoln speeches did not stop there -- he would go on, and often obliterate that sentiment he seemed to agree with, moments ago.

Lincoln gave well over 1000 speeches.  You can chop sentences from each one, and make him look horrible.


But you can't do that if you read the full speeches, nor if you look at his full actions.

Stephen A Douglas claimed Lincoln was committing treason and revolution, for just saying blacks were human beings, and were included in the Declaration of Independence.

The entire Southern leadership, and Northerners like Stephen A Douglas, were very clear, the founding fathers were WRONG.  Blacks are not persons, and the Dred Scott decision proved that.

Oh, you don't hear that today, there is not one text book in the United States that mentions this --but it's in many newspapers at the time.

Some newspapers hated Lincoln BECAUSE he was "A nigger lover".  Others just thought he was "too radical".  

GO on -- look.  Check your history text books, check "historians" such as Foner and McPherson.

They never mention it.


In fact, in one debate, Douglas ran from side to side of the stage, according to reports at the time, shouting about Lincoln loving the "Niggers"  more than he cared about the United States.

Douglas claimed Lincoln was committing treason --  urging revolution -- just because Lincoln said blacks were persons under the law.  Or should be.

Did you know that --  yes or no?

Hell no. No one ever told you, how would you know? Yes, in 1858, because of the Dred Scott decision, Lincoln was radical, for even calling blacks "human beings"  with rights from the Creator.

That was, in 1858, radical in politics -- and very much against the US Supreme Court Dred Scott decision, as Stephen A Douglas  happily announced, in every Lincoln debate.

I bet no one mentioned that.

Yes, if you cut out a slice - a sentence or two, you can make Lincoln seem anyway you want -- because Lincoln would SEEM to agree, then do an about face, and kick that very same sentiment, in the ass sideways.

He had to do that, he was using the most effective way - humor, and juxtaposition.  He learned these skills as an attorney. 

Lincoln's "IF" statements are classic -- a technique attorneys use, and Lincoln was a master of.

When Lincoln said "IF I could keep the Union together, but keep slavery, I would"  He was telling the truth, but as he said over and over, he could NOT keep the Union together, and keep slavery.

One or the other, had to go.

Yes, he did parse words to Greeley, because if he had answered candidly, if he said "Hell yes, I will end slavery as soon as I can" -- the war is over, most Northern soldiers would not have fought.

Certainly the border states would have gone Confederate, and that was the whole "ball game".   Lincoln knew and said, he hopes God is on our side, but we MUST have Kentucky.

Keeping the border states in, was everything.  So Lincoln parsed words -- not the worst thing anyone ever did, to end slavery.

No one -- absolutely no one -- left any LIncoln speech, thinking he was not for equality and not for ending slavery as soon as possible.

But you don't know that, because if you just know the edited quotes, out of context, they can give quite the opposite impression. 




Yes, some guys spoke more bluntly, but they were not running for office, they were not talking to pro slavery people,  they were talking in Main, in Boston, to groups who already agreed with them.  

Garrison, Sumner, Phillips, and others, spoke in "safe" areas, to groups who already agreed with them.  They risked nothing - in fact, most of them were paid.

Garrison, for example, only got "radical" after he was paid to speak.

Lincoln  didn't get paid -- he got killed for speaking radically, as was his friend, Lovejoy.

Lincoln was eventually killed for speaking too candidly about rights for blacks.  See the difference?

Notice anything -- the big time abolitionist were not killed, or even hurt. Lincoln was.

The big time abolitionist stayed safely in the East, speaking to crowds who paid to see them, and or, already agreed.

Lincoln not only spoke in IL -- he went to Kansas, where people could be, and were, still arrested and killed for speaking against slavery.

Did anyone ever -- really, ever -- tell you about Lincoln going to Kansas? No. 

But they will pick out some sentence, and make it seem like Lincoln was "reluctant" to end slavery, or "not really" that concerned about slavery. Union -- yeah, he just cared about union.

Anyone who spoke radically, could be killed, like Lincoln was later, like Lovejoy was -- Lincoln's friend killed by a mob in Illinois for publishing anti slavery newspaper.


Lincoln  had long history of kicking slavery in the ass -- 1846 on. Learn history, not slogans from lying bastards. 


Guys like Eric Foner win -- seriously - prizes for biographies of Lincoln, though their books give accurate information about Lincoln's full speeches, or full actions.

Why the hell not? Is this a game?  Are they running for office, and want the Southern vote?


Instead, Foner insist Lincoln was "nothing special"  and as "racist" as anyone at the time.

Well, by careful chosing of Lincoln's words, you can make him appear so, yes. 

If you cherry pick anyone's words, you can make them appear anyway you want. 

But get his full speeches, in context, realizing who he was talking to , and when, Lincoln was a bad ass, he was kicking slavery in the ass side ways -- while parsing words.

Foner nor McPherson ever seem to realize, that in most of the US it was illegal to speak against slavery, and in Illinois, it was still dangerous.

Foner never -- in his entire life, in any  book, in any "class"  ever told anyone that Stephen A Douglas repeatedly baited Lincoln  repeatedly refering to Lincoln as "obsessed with equality for the Nigger".

Why not mention that?  It's in the actual Lincoln Douglas debates -- in local papers. 

Douglas even said Lincoln "wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers".

In fact, local papers reported rumors -- apparently set by Douglas men -- that Lincoln was seen the day before in a carriage with a white woman, and Frederick Douglas!

Of course, Lincoln had never met Douglas till later.    But Douglas had his men spread rumors that further put Lincoln at risk, possibly for his life.

People today do NOT realize that when Lincoln debated Douglas, there were still people being killed, for speaking out against slavery.

Foner sure as hell never told anyone. Go read any of his books -- not one word.  Then Foner and McPherson (and others)  cherry pick Lincoln's words to make it seem opposite of what his full speech said.

Why the fuck do that? Really, why.  

No one in the crowd missed it. No one in the crowd thought Lincoln was ambivilant or doubtful about ending slavery or the evils of slavery, or the need to "set slavery on the path of ultimate extinction"  begining with stopping the spread into Kansas.

How did Foner miss it. No one alive then missed it.



It worked. As Frederick Douglass knew (everyone alive then, knew) Douglas won in 1858, by painting Lincoln as radical "Nigger lover"  but Lincoln had cut Douglas balls off, meaning, he cut Douglas away from Jeff Davis.

Getting Douglas to finally admit whites should be able to vote against slavery in Kansas, meant Douglas was no longer Jeff Davis man.

The South -- furious at Douglas for letting LIncoln force him to say that -- broke the Dem party in two, and got another candidate.

Only because Lincoln was able to do that, was Lincoln able to win a four way race -- he was the only one against the spread of slavery.

That was his platform, to stop the spread of slavery and keep the Union together.



People alive in 1890s, when they wrote about the Civil War, and what led up to it, even they said  it was hard to convey just how much fear and hate there was against anyone against slavery.

John Palmer, a friend of Douglas and Lincoln, wrote about this later in his life.  By the late 1890s,  Palmer wrote, people seem to forget how extreme things were -- the push to spread slavery, vs the push to keep it from spreading. 

Today we are even less aware.

We today assume that people  against slavery could speak openly, without fear.  

 Actually, you had to be very careful what you said, even in the North.

Even in the Senate, Charles Sumner was beaten almost to death, after he spoke about the violence in Kansas, and who was causing it.  

Other acts of violence went on outside Congress -- and several times, near violence happened on the Senate and House floor, if people spoke too bluntly against slavery.

In fact, for 13 years, it was illegal - contrary to Congressional rules, to even speak about slavery IN CONGRESS!!

Did you know that?  From about 1833 to 1845, it was against Congressional rules to even mention slavery.

In the South, you could be killed for speaking against slavery, since it was illegal to do so.

The "anti-incendiary laws" of every Southern state forbid open discussion, even preaching, against slavery.  Books against slavery -- all books -- were banned.  

Even mail was searched, ships were searched, for anti slavery publications.

People were killed in Kansas for speaking against slavery.  Lincoln's friend Lovejoy was killed for speaking against slavery -- in Illinois.

So Lincoln had to be careful. To be against slavery could be turned against you, to mean you wanted blacks to "sleep" with white women.  

And Southerners, pro slavery folks everyone, made sure people were very afraid that "your women" will "be with" and "sleep with niggers".

No one tells you that, now, surely not in US text books.

Lincoln would then have to get up, and explain himself -- he did so very well, and you need to read Lincoln's full response.

But Foner, and others, being lying bastards, give you a very very edited version of what Lincoln said, and of course, being lying bastards, don't tell you the risk Lincoln was taking, for even being there and defending "Niggers".


(Most newspapers used word Negro -- Steven Douglas used the word "nigger", and according to witnesses, spit the word out, with disgust, sometimes drool running down his face)


Stephen A Douglas called Lincoln  Nigger lover --not some nut on the street called.

Stephen A Douglas called him that, and other vile things, in every Lincoln Douglas debate.



Yes, partial quotes can make Lincoln seem anyway you want. Since Lincoln had over 1000  speeches, you can take a few words here and there, and make stupid people believe anything you want.


Those who trash or diminish Lincoln never tell you his long and amazing history, of actions against slavery, not just words.

Lincoln did both -- he was powerful, and even radical, in his speeches against slavery. He was powerful, and radical, in his actions against slavery.

Frederick Douglass knew that. That's  why he said it.



Those trashing Lincoln never mention Lincoln was killed by Booth, after Lincoln's speech about voting rights for "educated blacks." 

   Even that was too much for Booth, who changed his plan from kidnapping, to killing.


Lincolns 2 million words

Out of over 2 million words, over 1000 speeches, 500 letters, you can cut and paste and make Lincoln look like a war hawk, a racist, or whatever else you want.

When you learn his full quotes , and his full actions, no one, not even Frederick Douglass himself, spoke more powerfully, more often, more effectively than Lincoln, nor did more than he.

Who said so -- Frederick Douglass said so. And he was there.

Read  his full speeches, the full debates, and learn his full actions.



If you think "historians" don't put out bullshit, and sometimes get it wrong, you don't know much history.

A few misleading quotes is all you need to fool stupid people. 

Outright Lincoln haters, like DiLorenzo, are flagrantly deceptive, almost laughably so. They trash Lincoln for being  a racist, that he didn't care about slavery, and used it for his political advantage. 

Sadly, some other supposed "real historians" kinda do the same thing, almost as if they have to trash Lincoln to get credibility.

But those "historians" (like McPherson Or Foner) do basically the same thing as Di Lorenzo, or Hamer, or any of dozens of others.

None of these "historians" correct the bullshit.

McPherson, Foner, Hamer -- none -- have ever said one word about Lincoln being called a Nigger lover obsessed with equality for the Nigger.

Why not?  This was a huge deal - Douglas won because of this approach, and they can't say one word about it?


The words are in the Lincoln Douglas debates, in original form.  They are in newspapers at the time.

You can not possibly miss that, it was so common, if you read original sources.  The only way to miss that, is to get all your information from "history books" which have glossed over so much of that, or left it out entirely.


Lincoln's pattern of speech allows hustlers and liars to do this -- because Lincoln regularly "set up" a prejudice, before he knocked the shit out of it.

For example, again and again, in almost every public appearance at all, Lincoln would kind of validate a prejudice of the day -- then knock it down.   

Remember, in the Lincoln Douglas debates, he was accused of wanting white girls  to "sleep with Niggers"  by Douglas,  then Lincoln had to give his speech.

So Lincoln have to deal with that.  Lincolns "love for the Nigger" was the basic fear mongering Douglas did in every debate.

So Lincoln would have to say things like "I never said I was for PERFECT equaltiy.."  etc etc.   That's the part Lincoln haters will show you.

But then Lincoln comes back with the thunder -- but she is my equal and the equal of ANY MAN.

Why the fuck not tell you that part, too?  Because it does not make them sound so smart, when they trash Lincoln.

Yes, Lincoln DID parse words. 
He had to, or he would have been killed 
much sooner.

And slavery would have spread, just as the South promised it would.



Foner, and others like him,  seem to have no clue that some Northern Congressmen wanted Lincoln arrested -- yes arrested -- if he even spoke in public about ending slavery as a function of the Civil War.

Did you know that -- by the way?  Yes or no? 

 Did you know some Northern Congressmen wanted Lincoln arrested for even saying slavery needed to end?  

Did Foner tell you? Did McPherson?  Anyone?  

But guess who knew?  Frederick Douglass knew. 

You can do the same thing with Obama today -- cut and paste quotes by him.  You can do the same with the bible, or anything else.

But if you read his full speeches, full debates,  you can't possibly think he was not radically against slavery -- because he was. And he proved that, by kicking slavery in the ass sideways, till it was "dead dead dead".




Though no one tells you now, Stephen Douglas was famous at the time, even in Congress, for saying "Nigger".   

Charles Sumner admonished  him for using the word "Nigger" in the Senate, even Southern Senators said "Negro".

Stephen   Douglas, Lincoln's long time political enemy (No, Lincoln did not like Stephen Douglas, in fact, he hated him)  is shown, even by people who should know better, as trying to bring "peaceful resolution" to the slavery issue.

Lincoln knew better, and said so in the Lincoln Douglas debates.

Stephen Douglas and David Rice Atchison, a US Senator, got the Kansas Act passed --  then Atchison went to Kansas and began killing and terrorizing in Kansas.  Bet you never heard that.

But Stephen Douglas and David Atchison are why Lincoln returned to politics -- and he said so.  They worked with Jefferson Davis to spread slavery into Kansas.

Guess who knew about Douglas - Atchison -Jeff Davis connection?    Lincoln did.

Guess who else knew?   Frederick Douglass. Guess who had no clue -- you.

Guess who never told you? Your history books never told you.

You need to learn  history, to understand Lincoln, not bullshit.



Another fact your history teacher will never tell you -- because they don't know.

 People were still being killed, when Lincoln ran for office, for being "an abolitionist".  Did you know that? In fact, in most of the United States it was illegal to speak against slavery.

I bet you didn't know that.  I bet you never heard that by the time LIncoln ran for the Senate, it was a crime in Kansas, and people were arrested for speaking against slavery, or writing against it.  See more about that below -- your  history teacher doesn't have a clue about it. 

In Illinois, no, it was not illegal, but it was political suicide, and dangerous physically, to be seen as "pro nigger"  as Douglas (Stephen Douglas) made very clear.  

You wont hear this either -- Stephen Douglas and his ilk got power and fame, fortune, by taunting "pro nigger" politicians like Lincoln.  

Guess who knew that -- Frederick Douglas.   Guess who didn't?  You.  

And you have to learn this from original sources -- such as Douglas boasting of it, and Southern leaders loud and proud bragging about killing to silence those who spoke against slavery.


Why did Frederick Douglass have to defend Lincoln?  

A college student once told me "Lincoln never gave a rat's ass about slavery, until half way through the Civil War."

He did not know what Lincoln did from 1846 on -- like Lincoln standing up to President Polk in 1846, calling him on spreading slavery by stealing land, by war.

Did you know that Polk and the US doubled the slave territories by war -- the Mexican war?  Did you know Lincoln tried to stop that, and spoke against it then, pushed the Wlimont Proviso 40 times?

Did you know Lincoln tried to get slavery outlawed in DC in the 1840's?

Did you know Lincoln not only talked against slavery thousand of times, in speeches that were world famous at the time,  he acted against slavery.

You never hear about his thousand of complete speeches that were radical and extreme -- even dangerous to say - at the time.

Nor did you hear about his actions during that time.  Instead, you hear partial quotes, without context.


Back into politics 1854.

Lincoln was out of politics for years -- he was not able to stop the spread of slavery by Mexican War, though he tried.

He was not able to end slavery in District of Columbia, though he tried.

He was not able to pass the Wilmont Proviso, though he tried.

Do you know why he got back in?  

Because of the killings to spread slavery, and the Kansas Act Fraud, committed by his political enemy -- Stephen A Douglas.



People just don't appreciate how important Kansas was.   Southern leaders boasted, if they could force Kansas to accept slavery, they could, by the same logic and violence, spread it to all the West.

Did you know that, or not?

Similarly, Lincoln and others in the North, said much the same thing.  If the South can spread slavery into Kansas, though 95% of Kansas white male citizens rejected slavery, the South would spread slavery to the rest of the country.

Lincoln called it the "nationalization" of slavery.   We will all be free, or we will all be slave states, LIncoln said, one or the other.

One or the other has to go --why?

Because the South was spreading slavery, already killing in Kansas and elsewhere, and promising the spread of slavery  into the rest of the USA -- against states rights, and against actual popular sovereignty.

If you do not know about South's loud and proud killings -- their own speeches, by their own leaders about killing to spread slavery, you can't understand Lincoln or the Civil War.

You just can not. I don't mean it's difficult to understand the Civil War -- I mean it's impossible to understand it, or Lincoln, or anything else about the period, if you don't understand the killings, tortures, and violence Southern leaders bragged about at t the time.

You are not taught about that now -- so therefore, most people have little understanding of Lincoln or the Civil War.

And he was right.  The Southern leaders predicted much the same thing.

The United State Supreme Court already ordered the federal government to protect slavery, even in Kansas. That applied to all states, as Lincoln pointed out.   There was nothing in Dred Scott to limit the court order for the government to protect slavery in KANSAS

Dred Scott decision -- literally - ordered the federal government to protect slavery, period.

As Lincoln pointed out, that was not limited to Kansas. 

Stephen Douglas called Lincoln a "traitor" and "treasonous" for being against the Dred Scott decision.

Any decision by the US Surpreme Court, DOuglas shouted over and over -- is the law of the land "And I take it as such".

To which, Lincoln pointed out, the Surpreme Court had ruled the National Bank unconsitutional, yet Douglas and his entire party said that was sophistry, and told people not to pay any attention to that decision.

In other words, Douglas was all for spreading slavery  --per Dred Scott "logic"  of following that vile decision that blacks were not even human beings.

Did you know -- yes or no, please -- that Dred Scott decision found that blacks were not human beings (not persons)?

No you do NOT know that.  If you read the Lincoln Douglas debates, you would know.

If you read the Dred Scott decision, you would know.

This is what Lincoln was dealing with.

And you had no fucking clue, did you?

And that all started, with the Kansas Nebraska Act.  Remember, who passed this Act?

All the killing, the Dred Scott decision, the tortures and kilings in Kansas, came from Stephen A Douglas, and David Rice Atchison.

Guess who knew that -- Lincoln knew.

Guess who had no clue about that -- you.

Guess who else knew?  Frederick Douglas knew.

Atchison not only was the US Senator who got KS act passed, he then  rushed to Kansas and began his killing and terrorizing.

Atchison is the guy who personally created a "bogus legislature" that made it illegal to speak against slavery.

Did you know that -- or not?

Guess who knew that? Lincoln.  Guess who did not know that -- you.

No one -- not any person -- spoke more often, more powerfully, and more effectively against slavery, than Lincoln.

Lincoln went places the famous "speakers" of the day would not dare go. They stayed in Boston or New York, or Maine.   They had crowds that already agreed with them.

Lincoln went to places -- including Kansas, where there was ongoing killing sprees by Southern leaders since 1854 -- -and spoke.

Lincoln spoke to folks who would have shot him on the spot if he said he would end slavery by war if he  had to.  Lincoln lost elections, by the way, by being far too "radical" a "nigger lover"  in Stephen A Douglas words.

Yes, Stephen A Douglas used the word "Nigger" and he spit, physically spit, the word out, with great venom. 

Lincoln wanted your daughters to sleep with "Niggers" -- one time, Douglas rushed from one side of the stage to the other, shouting how Lincoln was for the Nigger.

Those people hated blacks, and hated abolitionist even more.

Did you know that -- yes or no?  

No, you had no clue. No one told you.

Yes -- he sometimes parsed words.   But overall, his full speeches are unique in US history for their punch and power, damning slavery and essentially promising to end it, by keeping the Union together.

That's right -- Lincoln saw, and so did many others, that either slavery would go, or the Union would go.  SOuthern leaders were bragging about killing to spread slavery (see below).

Southern leaders first came up -- proudly -- that they would destroy the Union in order to spread slavery. No one told you that, ever, did they?

Lincoln came back at that bullshit -- powerfully but politely, in his House Divided speech, but in many other speeches too.

Union aint going -- if something is going to go, Lincoln said, it's going to be slavery.  And he would make sure of that.


We know Lincoln's letter to Greeley, about saving the Union.  Amazing how quickly people become experts from those 40 words.

But Lincoln ALSO said saving the Union was how we hand to end slavery.

Put those two together, you wont be so stupid, about Lincoln. 


If anyone had a right to complain about Lincoln, it was Douglass (two s's at  end of name).   Lincoln followed Douglass's advise, but only partly, and over time.

The stunning Emancipation Proclamation was partly Douglass's idea -- the part about black troops.  But Lincoln issued EP as a warning, it did not take effect immediately.

Was Lincoln for slavery?   Was he a racist?  

You can make it seem so.  Chop up a speech here (see below), take a sentence there, and you can make Jesus seem like a pimp.  

But take the full measure -- read the full speeches, and learn what Lincoln did, you will see why Frederick Douglass was in awe of only two white men -- one of them, Abraham Lincoln.  The other, John Brown.


John Brown did not help the cause of ending slavery. 

Abraham Lincoln got the job done.

Frederick Douglass noted the difference.



Did you know -- Douglass did -- that the South used Lincoln's "House Divided" speech, to  prove LIncoln was going to end slavery in the South?

In fact, Lincoln's Southern enemies screamed it from the rafters --  the Union meant an end to slavery.  They claimed (correctly, actually)  first Lincoln meant to stop the spread of slavery, knowing that would destroy slavery and the white race where it was.

Lincoln's enemies were right - his plan, as they said, was to destroy slavery, not by war, however, but by stopping the spread of it.

Keeping the Union together would stop first the spread of slavery, and then kill slavery over time.   



In the Lincoln library, in Springfield, there is a very large banner, which says "I have no warrant to end slavery".

Some idiots take this to mean, he had no intention.  No dumb ass, he had to authority, no public will, no constitutional or legal way.  

Mostly, no one would fucking fight to free the slaves.   That's what he meant by WARRANT.

Lincoln eventually got that "warrant," later.

And when Lincoln got that warrant, he kicked the holy shit right out of slavery, and the Southern God of slavery.

Guess who knew that?  Frederick Douglas. Guess who never told you that? Eric Foner or McPherson, "historians".


Lincoln got back into politics, because of the killing sprees in Kansas, started by Stephen A Douglas, Jeff Davis, and David Rice Atchison.

Atchison -- the official leader of Kansas killers, was a US Senator, and Stephen Douglas personal friend, and business partner


Do modern "historians" who claim Lincoln was "reluctant" to end slavery, know about the killing sprees?  

Of course they knew -- Lincoln wrote about them in letters to Joshua Speed, very famous letters, to historians.

Herndon, who best knew Lincoln before the war (he lived with Lincoln, as did Speed) wrote that Lincoln got in because of Kansas Nebraska, and the killings and push for slavery  into the West.

Lincoln knew.  Douglass knew. But you did not.  No one told you .

We are going to tell you.



Lincoln's real weapons -- words.

Civil War, like many wars, start as word wars. The hate mongers in the South were pumping hate and fear -- see below.  

Southern leaders were already -- yes already -- killing and terrorizing to spread slavery West, even in states that were already in the Union and free (Kansas).

Yes, Lincoln could have gotten up, and talked tough, in his first and then second inaugural.   He could have talked trash, he could have been much more candid, and promised to kick ass.

Read his House Divided Speech -- Southern leaders accused him of being a war hawk, promising war against the South, just in that speech.  Did you know that, yes or no?

Hell no, you didn't know.

Lincoln was trying to keep things as calm as he could, until he could kick slavery in the face, and keep kicking it, till it was dead.  That is what he did - -- as soon as he could.

But no one on earth knew that events would turn so much.  US Grant said it best -- he at first said he would have resigned his commission if Lincoln said the war was about slavery.  Lincoln never did say that.

But Grant later wrote -- Lincoln was right.  Lincoln knew slavery had to end this way.  Grant admitted he was wrong about that, and Lincoln was right.   But Lincoln had to be very diplomatic, and he always was.  Lincoln never got macho duck, never did the macho duck dance with his words.

If he had gotten macho duck, the border states go with the South, and almost no one would have even THOUGHT  about fighting to end slavery.

Lincoln had to wisely, and carefully, lead the nation by very careful words.   So he did.


In fact, Southern leaders were bragging they were killing and promised more killing if Lincoln did not allow the spread of slavery into Kansas, even though Kansas was already a free state.

No one told you any of that, did they? 

No one told you Kansas was free state, by the time Lincoln took office, but that Southern leaders boasted  -- in War Ultimatums -- that they would have the spread of slavery into Kansas, or there would be war.

Did -- yes or no -- anyone ever tell you that?

Did Foner? No. Did McPherson? No.

Even the supposed great Bruce Catton tell you? No.

Did Joyce Kearns Goodwin tell you?


Lincoln didn't have the luxury of dealing with the bullshit half truths put out by stupid people 100 years later.  He was dealing with what actually happened, right then.,


Lincoln had to respond.  Southern leaders told their suckers that Lincoln was going to "kill the white race"  just by stopping the spread of slavery.

During 1860 election,  if LIncoln had spoken of ending slavery where it was, he would not have gotten 100 votes.  No one wanted a war to help the "Nigger."    

Even after the war started, Lincoln would not  have gotten 100 men to fight for that goal.



Just by existing, the Union would stop the spread of slavery, because as Lincoln showed, only by lies and killing, does slavery spread.

In the famous "House Divided Speech" Lincoln laid that out -- keeping the Union together meant slavery stops spreading.

Lincoln compared slavery to a cancer -- correctly.  Slavery had to spread, to survive, and it had to spread by violence.

Keeping the Union together made it impossible for slavery to spread West, and that was "the intolerable grievance" said Jefferson Davis.

Guess who knew that -- Douglass did.  Guess who didn't tell you that?   No one ever told you that.

Guess who else knew it -- and operated by that premise?  Jefferson Davis, and his friend, Stephen A Douglas. 


Everything Lincoln did, some people will use to "prove" he did not care about slavery. 

Frederick Douglass knew better, and said so.

Lincoln also spoke about Union -- in his letter to Greeley.  But Lincoln also spoke a thousand times more fully -- and made it clear, keeping the Union together was the only way to stop slavery.

Lincoln did NOT remind Greeley of that, in his letter.  But guess who well knew that keeping the Union together was literally the only way to stop slavery?

Douglass knew. Lincoln had said it  powerfully enough, particularly in House Divided Speech, which was extremely well known, North and South.  Slavery had to go, or the Union had to go.  One or the other.

You have to read Lincoln's full speech, and know the context, to get that. But the South very much "got that" and used that as proof Lincoln intended eventually to get rid of slavery, by stopping the spread of slavery.

South had blasted Lincoln for that.  Lincoln's enemies in the North hated him for that too.

Did you know that?

And that is just the tip of the iceberg. 


Douglass claimed he knew only one person more "radical" than Lincoln -- and that was John Brown.  Brown didn't last two hours doing it his way, and caused more problems for anti-slavery movement, than help.



How much good did Brown do? He was blunt -- he was candid, and soon, he was dead. And so  were his sons.

In fact, because of Brown, the South claimed to be the victim, a role they love to play to this day.  Never mind that the only person killed in Brown's raid was one of his own men.   And never mind 40 years of Southern violence, killings, and tortures, to spread slavery.

Lincoln would die too, hours after Booth heard LIncoln speak candidly about voting rights for "some Negroes".

Did you even know that? 

Douglass did.



Lincoln had a long  history of kicking slavery in the ass - first standing up to President Polk as a freshman Congressman.

Lincoln called the President on it -- everyone knew, of course, that the Mexican war was to double the size of slave territory, already expanded greatly in 1820 "Compromise".

But now, the 1820 "compromise" was not enough, though that doubled the size of slavery too. 

Slave owners wanted more.   So they expanded it with the "compromise" of 1850.

Yes, both "compromises"  doubled the area of slavery.   As you will see, even that doubling, and doubling again, would not be enough.

The Mexican war gave them much more, and Lincoln called Polk on it.  He stood up in Congress and called out Polk on it. 

Did your history teacher ever tell you that?

No. In fact, your  history teacher probably never told you the Mexican war was about slavery, but it sure as hell was. Newspapers and folks at the time, knew it, and knew it well.

You don't know it, because you are not told.

It's really no surprise that the Mexican War, the "compromises" of 1820 and 1850, were about the spread of slavery.

Everything -- E V E R Y T H I N G -- in US politics was about the spread of slavery, one way or another.   A basic fact that escaped US  history text books.

Kansas Nebraska Act was a very sneaky way to once again, spread slavery, but this time, by pretending to be about "popular sovereignty"

Yet the men who got Kansas Act  passed, immediately went to Kansas and started terrorizing, later killing, so that no one could possibly vote against slavery.  Only "pro slavery" votes were allowed.

   No one told you that, did they?  Not once.



 By the time Lincoln was done, not only was slavery done, but the God of slavery -- yes, there was very much a God of slavery, was dead.

Lincoln stayed alive long enough, to bring about the end of slavery.  And he killed the Southern God of Slavery too.

Guess who knew that?  Frederick Douglass.

Guess who noted the difference in the outcome of the two "radicals"  for equality?

Frederick Douglass. 

See the difference?  If not, you will, if you keep reading.


So called "historians" have claimed Lincoln didn't actually care about slavery, till well into the Civil War.

Other "historians" claim Lincoln was "reluctant to free the slaves,"  and had to be "pushed into it by others." 

Oh, really?   Well that sounds smart -- except it's bullshit, as you will see. 


Here is a typical "smart person" who doesn't know what they are talking about -- 

Slavery, says Keaton, was "an important subtext."   But dozens of other "historians" have said kinda similiar things.  

Ending slavery was not Lincoln's real goal. 

Actually, ending slavery sure as fuck was his goal -- but he had to first talk about stopping the SPREAD of slavery.

The lunatic slavers were so extreme, though, that just talking about stopping the SPREAD of slavery caused wars.  Kansas -- is the best example of Southern leaders bragging about their war to spread slavery.

Dont believe me?  Good -- see Southern leaders own speech about killing in Kansas to spread slavery, against states rights.  Go on, go learn what the hell happened, you sure as hell won't get this in your bullshit, Southern school board acceptable "history book".

His real goal, was keeping the Union together.  Well, he did write a letter saying that.    But he also explained he kept the Union together to end slavery.

Did you know LIncoln explained he kept the Union together BECAUSE that was the only way to end slavery?

And did you know when Lincoln wrote that letter to Greeley,  if he had been candid, and said he would kick slavery in the ass till it was dead dead dead, three or four more states join the Confederacy,  and  the US splits in two or three nations, and Southern states would make good on their promises of spreading slavery -- into all the West.

Did you even know that Southern leaders bragged they were spreading slavery in all the West, and that they left the Union because they could not spread slavery, if the United States continued?

That's right -- Jefferson Davis said the "intolerable grievance" against Lincoln and the North, was the resistance to the spread of slavery in Kansas.

Bet you didn't know that. Read his book.

And Kansas, by then, had already voted against slavery 95%, and been admitted as a free state.   Nevertheless, Davis demanded the spread of slavery into Kansas.

Did you know that? No.

Guess who knew that?   Frederick Douglass, and just about everyone else alive, in 1861.



Did you know --  yes or no -- that according to New York papers, Chicago papers, Alton papers, and papers in the South,  Lincoln was everything from a "Negro worshipper" to a "Nigger" lover who wanted your daughters to sleep with "Niggers".

Did you know that?

Did you know that Lincoln was killed when he spoke too bluntly -- about voting rights for blacks?

Lincoln gave a speech that Booth heard, about "some blacks" to get the right to vote.  Very mild really.  But even that was too much for Booth, who changed his kidnap plan, to killing.

Did you know that?

Guess who did know that?  And much more?

Frederick Douglass.

You see, Douglass was not only there, he knew Lincoln, advised Lincoln, and more, Douglass knew what kind of deceptive, sneaky, and violent scum sucking pigs Lincoln fought all his life.  

You aren't told those things, until now. 

Unless you know what Douglas knew, you don't know shit, really.  US school text books, published in the South, edited by Southern school boards (the text books were the same, all over, they didn't make separate text books).

Virtually none of the really vile crap that happened, got in US text books, like the Southern war ultimatums to spread slavery, and United States Supreme Court ruling that blacks were not human beings.

Did you know -- yes or  no -- that by the time Lincoln ran for Senate, the United Sates Supreme Court had officially and emphatically ruled that blacks were not human beings (not persons) under the law?

Did you know that? Or not.


So when Stephen A Douglas claimed Lincoln was a traitor, and a radical "Nigger lover" obsessed with equality for the "Nigger" -- he was right, for that time, and that situation, after Dred Scott decision.

But Frederick Douglass knew -- and so did pretty much everyone alive in 1858. 

In fact the Lincoln Douglas debates were about little else.  Have you read them?

Lincoln had to deal with the vile crap, not the white washed BS acceptable to Southern school boards.




Oh wait a minute, wait just a minute.  Maybe Douglass wasn't so stupid.

Stephen A Douglas regularly -- often and regularly - -called Lincoln a "radical" who "Wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers"

Did you know that -- yes or  no.

Hell no.   At every debate, Douglas went for the jugular, claiming Lincoln was a "Nigger" supporter, who wanted your daughters to sleep with them. 

In fact, Douglas pumped up the hate and fear by telling folks that, when Lincoln was not there too.

And he wasn't the only one.  To get power and attention, politicians like Douglas pumped up the hate, North and South. 

In the South, it was even worse.   Stopping the spread of slavery -- yes, just stopping the spread of slavery -- was going to exterminate the white race.

That's right -- exterminate.   Stopping the spread of slavery would EXTERMINATE the white race.

Get your head around that. 

Lincoln was going to kill the white race, said the governor of Florida, just by stopping the spread of slavery into Kansas.

In Illinois Stephen A Douglas made Lincoln out to be a "Nigger lover"   who "wanted your daughters to sleep with Niggers".

Yet there are idiot "teachers" today who claim it was to Lincoln's "advantage" to be against slavery.

What an idiot.  Lincoln had to parse his words carefully, or he would have been killed much earlier than he was.



Does that make sense to you, stopping the spread of slavery into Kansas is going to destroy the white race?

Did you even know that Southerners were saying Lincoln was going to exterminate the white race by stopping slavery?

Just stopping slavery -- specifically -- was enough to kill the white race.   Did you know that,  yes or no?

The governor of Florida, made it very very clear -- in the Declaration of Causes -- that LIncoln was not trying to stop slavery where it already was, just stop the spread of it.

That, though, was enough to kill the white race, to make your daughters sleep with "Niggers" as Douglas said.  Your fate will be equality with the sub humans.

Well, that's the kind of rhetoric that worked, that got non-slave owners as hateful as possible.

Did you know how slave owners got the stupid people to hate?   They told them, over and over and over,  that God was for slavery, and anyone against slavery was against God.

And that those against the spread of slavery would get them, and their families, exterminated, or  have to "live with" niggers.

Did you know that, yes or no?  

No one told you that, did you?

Who stood up against them? 



Newspapers made blacks look retarded -- then made fun of Lincoln for saying they were the "equal of any white man" under the law -- which he did, over and over.

That's right -- Lincoln said, over and over, blacks are the equal of any white man, for the purposes of their rights.

That's right, newspapers made fun of him.   

And Douglas taunted and smeared Lincoln for being so "radical" in his "love for the Nigger".


 Douglas (correctly) pointed out again, and again, that the United States Supreme Court had rules blacks are NOT persons.

But you have to read his full speeches for that.

Plus, Lincoln's actions  -- he was kicking slavery in the ass, but in a very smart way.

Lincoln got the job done.  Remember that.


As a freshman Congressmen Lincoln stood up on floor of House and accused -- correctly -- the President of fostering a war, in order to spread slavery.


When you know the FULL quotes -- and Lincoln's full actions -- you won't be so stupid. 


In fact, while in Congress, one term, Lincoln tried to get slavery outlawed in DC.  No one told you that, did they?

Some people claim Lincoln never even mentioned slavery until it was helpful to him in politics.

Actually Lincoln's  position was very unpopular, he kept losing because of it, even when he tried so hard to just sell the idea that slaves are human beings, and have inalienable rights -- that was too extreme.

Lincoln's  radical "obsession" for equality of the "Nigger" as his enemies claimed, cost him several elections

But by the time Lincoln wrote that letter to Greely, he had ALREADY given hundreds, if not thousands, of speeches  --  extreme speeches -- against slavery, and spent over 15 years doing little BUT opposing slavery, daily.

Guess who knew that -- yep. Frederick Douglass knew that. You didn't. 



Stephen Douglas told crowds repeatedly that Lincoln wanted your daughters to "sleep with Niggers".

Yes, he used that word, "Nigger".

Lincoln. Wants. Your. Daughters.

To. Sleep. "With  Niggers" 

Now, why do you supposed Douglas said this, over, and over and over?

Because he knew people hated any idea that blacks and whites were in any way equal. They especially hated the idea black man would "sleep with your daughters."

No one ever -- ever -- told you that, did they?

Well, Stephen A Douglas went after that like a laser, and he punched, punched and punched Lincoln endlessly about it.

If you read the full Lincoln Douglas debates, and the Congressional record, you'd know that.

But if you only read a few quotes from bullshit "historians" you could not possibly know.

 Most whites, even in the North, would not piss on a black person if they were on fire.  Lincoln knew that. 

See for yourself, in this clip, the words taken directly from speeches both men gave, and this is in context, correctly shown. 

Lincoln the "Nigger Lover"  said his political enemies "was obsessed with equality for the Nigger".

Bet no one ever told you that, did they?  Stephen Douglas did not say this just once, he said it regularly, one time running from one side of the stage to the other, pulling his hair, and shouting "Nigger". 




You have no clue -- do you --that when Lincoln got up and said "all men are created equal"  the US Supreme Court had already ruled they were inferior beings -- not human beings.

Did you know that -- or not. Yes, or no.

Not persons -- but property. Did you know even that much?

Hell no, no one ever told you shit about that, did they.

In fact, this is EXACTLY what Stephen Douglas told crowds, over, and over, and over.

Over and over, Stephen Douglas accused Lincoln of everything but revolution to "Nigger equality"   to make "Niggers" sleep with your daughter.  

TO be "for equality"   meant  to some  that you were crazy and would cause the death of the white race.  Did you know that? 

Lincoln had to get votes from people who very much did not like blacks, and were not about to help them get free.

In fact, when Lincoln spoke, it was against the law in Illinois for a black person to move there!  They had to already be there, are just passing through.

DId you know that, or not?

If Lincoln had just said he thought blacks should be able to move to Illinois, he would have risked being shot.   Did you know that?

If you don't know what the mentality of the day was -- you don't know shit about Lincoln.


Did you know that -- yes or no?  

Lincoln's friend was killed for being "too radical" even in Illinois, for equality for blacks under the law.

Did you know that?  Yes or no.

Guess who did know that?  Frederick Douglass knew.

"Mr Lincoln wants your daughters... to sleep with Niggers."

Did you know who got Lincoln back in politics?

Lincoln got back into politics because of two people.

David Rice Atchison, and Stephen A Douglas.

 Atchison was a US Senator,  the guy that got Kansas Act passed.  He then left the Senate immediately, and started his killings and terrorizing in Kansas.

Did you know that --  yes or no?

They who got Kansas Act passed, immediately left of Kansas and started his killing and terrorizing out there.

Very basic.

Lincoln got into politics because of Stephen A Douglas and David Rice Atchison.


In the most famous speech of the 1850s, to that point, Charles Sumner exposed Atchison's killing sprees in Kansas, in the speech he was beat almost to death for, right on the Senate floor.
That's right, US Senator Charles Sumner got up and exposed Atchison -- by name -- and he listed many of the killing to that point.  He was beaten almost to death for it.

I bet no one told you that.

And Atchison's killing sprees grew much much worse, as you can tell by Atchison's own speech the next day, in Kansas, praising the Texas men, just arrived, and telling them they would be killing to spread slavery, and would be well paid.

Atchison, by the way, was business partner and best friend of Stephen A Douglas.


The Southern leaders that  sent killers to Kansas, got the Kansas Act passe.

Lincoln saw slavery once again try to spread, once again, by violence.

How do we know? Lincoln said so, and likewise, his law partner, Herdon, wrote about it extensively, confirming exactly that. 

Lincoln got back into politics because of Kansas Nebraska Act.

We also have  Lincoln's long amazing letter to his friend Joshua Speed outlined why and how. The violence, the killings, in Kansas, and the Kansas Act that brought that all to pass.  Lincoln said so, too, at the time.

Maybe he knew something.

No. Mostly teachers are too lazy, a few quotes, and they think they "got it".



Idiotically, we hardly mention Kansas Act in US schools, and at most, call it "Trouble in Kansas".

It was more like 911, and World Trade Towers.

Calling it trouble is bullshit. It was war.

And Southern leaders boasted it was war, used the term "WAR" -- officially, Southern leaders used the word WAR, and promised more war, starting in 1856.

Did you know that, yes or no?

No, you did not.

Most high school kids know - - or at least saw the words -- Kansas Nebraska Act.  Yet they don't know how violent events were surrounding it -- nor have they been told that is why LIncoln got back in politics. And said so.

Guess who didn't know that -- you.  But Frederick Douglass knew. 

Yes, Lincoln had to be careful what he said.

His friend, Lovejoy, was not so careful, and was killed. Did you know that, yes or no?

Did you know Stephen A Douglas made damn sure to mention Lovejoy, and how he was Lincoln's friend?  Do you know why he tol the crowd Lincoln was a "Nigger lover" who wanted your "daughter" to sleep with Niggers"?

Go on, guess why?

SO the crowd would hate Lincoln -- and scare Lincoln off.

Oh you don't think a politicians like Stephen A Douglas would do that? Fuck yes  he would -he was best friends with David Rice Atchison, who was on killing sprees in Kansas, killing to spread slavery.  Stephen A Douglas backed Atchison in the Senate, and called him "the finest man I ever knew"  even after the killing sprees in Kansas.

Did you know that? FUCK no, you never heard of David Rice Atchison.

Even some Northern Congressmen during the Civil War,  wanted slavery to continue, and they wanted it to be a crime to say slavery should end. A CRIME just to say that.

You know about that letter to Greely, saying his goal was to keep the union together?

Every dumb ass thinks he's a genius cause he knows about that letter.

But that letter came AFTER thousands of long speeches -- more than anyone, more effective too --very strongly against slavery.

And AFTER over 10 years of kicking slavery in the ass.

Why would Lincoln say that -- why would Lincoln speak of Union?

Because, dumb ass, keeping the union together, as he said, and as the South said, meant they could not spread slavery.

Did you know that -- yes or no?

Lincoln was right to speak of union, because at that time, if he spoke in terms of slavery, the border states would have joined the Confederacy.

Do you know that -- or not? FUCK NO.

No one told you.

And even though he spoke about Union, he also said keeping Union together was the way to stop slavery.

Got that?  IN fact, LIncoln very likely cared more about ending slavery, that keeping the US together, though he never even hinted that.   Lincoln wanted slavery to end.

But he had to keep the union together, to do that.

You never heard that in your entire life, did you?

Guess who knew that? Frederick Douglass knew.


New York papers called Lincoln "The Negro Worshiper".

Did you know that?  Hell no you didn't know that.

Lincoln could have easily been killed -- as he was eventually killed anyway -- for speaking too candidly about equality for blacks.

Did you know Lincoln was killed for speaking about voting rights for blacks? Oh no one told you? REally?

Booth heard Lincoln speak for voting rights for blacks, and changed his plan from kidnapping LIncoln, to just shooting him, because that speech about voting rights for "some blacks"  was "treason".   

Guess who knew that?

Frederick Douglass knew that. 

Guess who didn't know that -- you didn't know. 

Northern papers thought Lincoln should let the South spread slavery into the rest of the country - to obey the Southern ULtimatums of March 1861.  DId you even know about the Southern ULtimatums to spread slavery?


Most people who trash Lincoln today have no clue what Lincoln was up against. It's not their fault, no one told them.

Southern leaders had killed for decades -- in declared wars, and undeclared wars -- to spread slavery.  Did you know about the actual wars to spread slavery?

No. You don't know. 

They killed in Mexico, to spread slavery. 

Did you know that?Douglass did.

They killed in Texas to spread slavery.

Did you know that? Douglass did.

They killed in Kansas and California and Oregon, to spread slavery. And they bragged about it.  They did not admit it, they bragged about it.

US Senator brags about it. He is defended by Stephen A Douglas.  He works for Jefferson Davis.  Did you know this -- or not.


FUCK NO. You had no clue.

Did you know that? HELL NO you did not know that. 



Did you know Lincoln tried to stop them as early as the 1840's? FUCK NO.  You don't have a clue.  No one told you.


Lincoln said -- and operated this way -- that to end slavery, first we have to stop the spread of it.

WHich is exactly what happened, in fact. The Civil War stopped the spread of it, and by the end of the Civil War, Lincoln also ended slavery  in the US, too.

No, that was NOT his goal at first.  His goal was to end slavery by stopping the spread of it. Slavery was a cancer that would die, if it did not spread.

That was the only way, early on, he could figure out how to kill it. Stop the spread, and like a cancer, slavery would destroy those who had slavery-- 

Most folks in the North didn't much give a shit if slavery spread or not.

Lincoln did.

Lincoln would do anything BUT let slavery spread  -- because stopping slavery from spreading would destroy slavery.  

Southern leaders thought the same  thing -ending the SPREAD of slavery would kill the white race. 

Did you know that? Yes or no?

Southern leaders were already killing -- to spread slavery for "white survival"  for years before Lincoln even ran for Senate.

Did you know that, yes or no?

And they bragged of it.   Southern leaders were forcing slavery - by killing - down the throat the the USA.    No one told you that, did they?

Southern leaders were bragging about it then.

Guess who knew that?  Frederick Douglass knew that.

Guess who never had a clue about that?  You.

Jefferson Davis said the spread of slavery was non -negotiable.  Resistance to the spread of slavery in the west was the "intolerable grievance". 

Did you know that. Any of that?  At all?  

Frederick Douglass knew.  Lincoln  knew.


The court, in Dred Scott, said they were property.

It was on the basis of blacks being "not persons" that Southern leaders said Lincoln was a "traitor to the constitution" because he said they were human beings and as such, could not be treated like property. 

Did you know that?  

Yes or no, did you know Lincoln's enemies called him a radical and a traitor, because he said blacks were human beings.

Hell no, you don't fucking know.  Your  history teacher didn't tell this kind of vile crap in our history.

But that's EXACTLY what they used to accuse Lincoln of being a "Nigger lover" and a "traitor".

Learn real history, you won't be so easily fooled by those who trash Lincoln. 



This was not a fucking word game -- Southern leaders used this "logic" of Dred Scott, that blacks were not human beings, as the basis for their killing sprees into Kansas.

Bet you didn't know that, either?

They BRAGGED of it. Southern leaders bragged out the ass about this, as we will show you.

Lincoln said that was wrong -- blacks are humans. 

He was radical -- for exactly that. 

 Southern leaders said they could spread slavery all over the West, including into Kansas, which voted 95% against slavery.
Hell no, you never heard that, did you?

Guess who know that -- Frederick Douglass.

Guess who had no clue -- you.

Guess who didn't tell you -- your history teacher. 

And guess who accused Lincoln of treason against the US, because he "dared" to say blacks were not only people, but they should be treated equality under the law. 

Stephen A Douglas said that, repeatedly, emphatically.

Did you know that, or not?

  You have to look in papers at the time, but Douglas was well known for using the word "Nigger" in public, and even in the Senate, where Charles Sumner tried in vain to get Douglas to stop using that word.

By the way, Douglas did NOT use the word "Nigger"  until he had sold out to the South, as he had done so, in Kansas Nebraska Act.

In fact, editors pointed out frequently that Douglas was once anti slavery -- up till being pro slavery got him more power in Congress. 

Douglas would switch back and forth, as his political fortunes dictated.  

Even most Southern Senators did not, in public, use the word "Nigger". Apparently, Douglas thought his use of that word, delighted Southern leaders -- and very likely, it did. Douglas was a shrewd master of what words to say, to impress those who could help him rise in power. 

Yes, he said "Niggers".  No, your history teachers didn't bother to tell you that.

In fact,  Stephen Douglas was rather famous in Congress, for using the word "Nigger".   He did so because he was the leader of the SOUTHERN Democrats, though he was from Illinois.

Yes,  Lincoln parsed his words -- he was careful how he said things.   He would have been killed years before he was killed if he  had been any more blunt.

In fact, Lincoln WAS killed by Booth, hours after Booth heard Lincoln speak for voting rights for blacks.

It's not your fault you are stupid about Lincoln. You are NOT taught how insane the hatred of blacks was at the time -- you could still be killed, as Lincoln's friend (and many others were) for speaking for equality.

In fact, in the entire South, and in Kansas, it was legal to arrest and torture those who spoke against slavery.

Did you know that, yes or no?

In all of the South (bigger in area than the free states) it was a crime -- punishable by torture -- to even own a book that questioned slavery.

Did you know that -- yes or no?

In Kansas, a US Senator was bragging that he killed to stop those who even spoke against slavery.

Did you know that? Hell no.

Did you know that the US Senator who killed to spread slavery in KS, and bragged he killed to stop speech against slavery, was officially the "General of Law and Order in Kansas" - put there by Jefferson Davis?



Lincoln enemies at the time, claimed Lincoln was called a "obsessed with equality for the Nigger"  as  Stephen A Douglas,  put it.

Did you know that -- yes or no.

Lincoln "Worshipped the Negro" said New York papers -- who also suggested Lincoln should obey SOuthern war ultimatums to spread slavery by force, into Kansas.

You had no clue the South had war ultimatums, did you? And that first on their war ultimatums, was the spread of slavery into Kansas, which had voted against slavery by 90%.

Did you even know that much?

No.   Northerners -- some anyway -- were very willing to let Southern leaders kill to spread slavery into Kansas and the west. The same papers that called Lincoln "Worshipped the Negro"


The big problem in the stupidity of most "history teachers" today, is they have no clue what the central issue was --  the spread of slavery by violence.

If you don't know that, you really don't know shit.

Lincoln knew it -- so did almost everyone alive at the time.  It was no secret. The  South's War Ultimatums were headline news, the South was very proud of those war ultimatums, till they lost.

Did you know that -- yes or no?

Frederick Douglass knew all this, of course, most people alive in the USA knew this, but you did not, did you?

Southern leaders bragged out the ass about it -- used it to justify their killing sprees into Kansas.

Did you know that? They didn't kinda justify their killing sprees, they didn't sorta justify their killing sprees, they good god damn well bragged out the ass about the Dred Scott decision being their "Constitutional right"  to not just spread slavery -- but to arrest and even kill those who spoke against slavery.

Yeah, that does sound crazy now, right?   Well it's what was going on then, whether your dumb ass history teacher knows it, or told you, or not.

That's what Lincoln was dealing with, when he ran for office, and its WHY he ran for office. 

Did you know that? Did you know in letters at the time LIncoln told friends (Speed) he was getting back into politics because of this shit that was going on in Kansas, by these bastards?

No -- you don't know that. 

 Lincoln opponents said he would cause a war if he kept saying blacks were persons, not sub human property. 

Wants your daughters "to sleep with " Niggers. 

Why would Stephen A Douglas use that line over, and over, and over -- see the clip above.


Lincoln  was called -- over and over -- in public and  in newspapers as dangerous, just for speaking about equality of the races in most general terms, and saying we must stop the SPREAD of slavery.

No one else -- where and when he was -- were doing this. Overall, as you will see, Lincoln kicked ass in his speeches.  Read the whole speech, not just part of it.

Lincoln kicked ass -- and kicked it from 1837 on. He kicked slavery in the ass in thousands of speeches. He stood up to President Polk in 1846 while in Congress, on the issue of slavery and stealing Texas to push slavery further.

Yes, the US stole Texas, and did so to push slavery further. If you don't know that, get the fuck off this page, learn history, and come back.

Lincoln kicked ass in Congress too, by trying to push the Wilmont Proviso outlawing slavery, 40 times. The Wilmont Proviso would have kept slavery out of the stolen territories.  Of course, those who stole Texas to spread slavery, were  not about to let Lincoln keep slavery out.

Did you know that, yes or no?

Oh you mean Eric Foner, and other "historians" forgot to tell you? Do tell. 

Lincoln also kicked ass by trying to end slavery in district of Columbia, as a Congressmen.  You didn't know that did you?

In the hundreds, thousands, of speeches, Lincoln gave the same basic message in each speech. Read the whole thing. Slavery is evil. Slavery must end. Let's figure a way to end it.


Lincoln's first choice was to stop the spread of slavery.  Since you don't have a fucking clue, most likely, that Southern leaders were killing to spread slavery, and that Dred Scott essentially mandated the spread of slavery (DS made it impossible for any legislature or group of people -- even voters -- to keep slavery out of anyplace, by their order and declaration that blacks are not persons, and the order, yes order, that the fed government protect slavery.

You heard right -- this is probably the first time in your life you heard that Dred Scott decision ORDERED the fed gov to protect slavery, and that blacks were not human beings, not persons.

But that is exactly who Dred Scott was used -- and the South bragged of it, out the ass. Stephen A Douglas gave dozens, if not hundreds of long and very specific speeches bragging of this.  

So why the fuck are we not taught about it?

Because it's really vile shit, and the South has published almost all text books in the USA since text books were published. 

And "historians" like dip shit James McPherson is too pussy to state anything like this candidly. 

 Did you know about Southern violence, military violence, official, paid for, organized killing sprees, to spread slavery. Before the Civil War -- did you know Jeff Davis hired Texas killers to invade Kansas, yes or no?

No -- you don't have a clue. 

Did you or your history teacher tell you, did any "scholarly" book by McPherson, Foner, Catton, etc, ever even mention this, even on page 200, down in any paragraph.  At all?

Did they mention, much less show how extreme the hate for Lincoln -- in the North!  In the South, of course, Lincoln was considered the destroyer of the White Race.   Did you know Southerners claimed Lincoln would cause the "extermination of the white race??

Did any of these "historians" or any of your history books tell you, that Lincoln's enemies at the time, again, and again, and again called him everything from a Nigger lover to a Negro worshiper.

And he was eventually killed -- shot in the head -- because of it. 

Stephen A Douglas used that approach, because it made people hate Lincoln -- and made it dangerous for him to come out too bluntly for abolition.

Most white people in the North hated abolitionist almost as much as they hated negroes.  Did you know that or not?

In the South, they accused Lincoln of treason, and would have arrested and hung  him, if he even campaigned there. Did you know that?

Nor do you know that by time Lincoln ran for the Senate (see the video for this too) the SCOTUS had already ruled -- officially -- that blacks were not human beings, not persons. 

People were still being arrested and tortured -- did you know that or not -- for speaking against slavery, or even owning a book against slaery, in the entire South, and in Kansas.

Not kinda tortured, not kinda killed, not by some "crazy individuals" by by "lawful authorities" people were being arrested, tortured, and killed by men Jefferson Davis appointed, and backed, as Secretary of War.

Do you even know who David Rice Atchison is?

As your teacher who David Rice Atchison is, and if he or she doesn't know that Atchison was a US Senator that bragged about killing to spread slavery and killing to stop folks from speaking against slavery, then you have a stupid teacher.

Because that's what was going on. And Atchison was backed up by the Scum Sucking Pigs on the United States Supreme Court, though Atchison was already killing and torturing for over a year,  and THEN Dred Scott decision came out, allowing Southern bastards to retroactively justify the killings and torture.

Yes, killings and torture. Yes, a  US Senator. No, this is not hyped or sophistry. This is what fucking happened. 

Lincoln will destroy the white race.  Did you know that or not? Whites claimed Lincoln's very mild and parsed words were bad enough -- even his parsed words were dangerous to whites.

I don't mean one or two people were arrested, in isolated unusual cases. I mean people were chased down, captured, and tortured,  or worse, for speaking against slavery.

Lincoln's enemies tried to frighten him -- by telling the public, openly, repeatedly, that Lincoln wanted your daughters to sleep with "Niggers".

Yes that's the word used.  Stephen A Douglas used that word.

Frederick Douglass knew that. In fact, Stephen A Douglass would tell people before the debates, that Lincoln and Frederick Douglass were seen together with a white woman in a carriage together the day before.   F Douglass, of course, was no where near there, but Stephen A Douglas knew that telling folks such "jokes" would make them hate and fear Lincoln.

Why  is that not taught in our school text books? I want to know. 

In the North, people would still be killed -- as Lincoln was killed-- if they spoke too powerfully for equality for blacks. Did you even know that much? 

Did you know that -- yes or no?

Im always surprised (just kidding Im used to it) when "history majors"  and "history teachers": tell me Lincoln was not against slavery really. 

Lincoln did little else BUT speak and work against slavery from 1837 on,    He gave thousands of speeches -- every fucking one of them about slavery and why it had to be stopped, why it must be stopped eventually.   




So did Stephen A Douglas. So did most people alive in 1850's.   You very likely have no clue -- you are NOT told this stuff, in the way it was discussed them.,

Lincoln was "PREACHING REVOLUTION" and "Nigger equality" said Stephen A Douglas.

This was the basic message from Stephen A Douglas --- he repeated it emphatically, loudly, proudly, in every Lincoln/DOuglas debate, and in many of his own speeches, without Lincoln.

Did you even know this? 

This is not rhetorical - did you know this?

 Lincoln was accused by the South of treason, and by Stephen Douglas of urging a civil war, if he even questioned the Supreme Court ruling that blacks are inferior beings, not persons.

Jefferson Davis himself wrote that the "resistance to the spread of slavery"   was the "intolerable grievance"   because Dred Scott decision ruled that blacks were not persons. 

Did you know that? Yes or no.   Seriously -did you know that?   Here it is, if you don't believe me.

Jefferson Davis didn't just write this in his book, this was shouted from the rooftops by the South -- the Dred Scott decision (that blacks were not persons) was their "Constitutional guarantee" that they could spread slavery wherever they damn please -- including Kansas, which voted 90% against slavery, no matter what Dred Scott said.

But since most history teachers are too stupid to even read the Dred Scott decision, and since they don't know Lincoln Douglas debates were about that, they could not tell you anything about LIncoln being called a "Revolutionary"  and a "Nigger lover"  for speaking for equality.

Equality was a settled issue -- said Stephen A Douglas. Blacks were NOT equal, they were property.   If you did not see the video clip above, see it now, or again.

Yes it's a clip -- but you are probably too stupid to even find the LIncoln Douglas debates and read the whole things. Go read the whole debates, and you will be even smarter. 

 Lincoln was preaching "Revolution" to say otherwise.

Southern leaders where getting crowds to cheer -- -the white race would be "exterminated"  if Lincoln had his way. Blacks are inferior beings, not persons.  

Did you know that?

So when Lincoln got up and said anything -- howerever carefully, he was accused of being a radical "Nigger lover".  

And Stephen A Douglas pointed this out proudly -- what he and Southern leaders boasted of (see the video above) most history teachers today, do not even know what a  factor, much less the most important forces at work in Lincoln's life, and in the lead up to the Civil War.

Did you know that or not?

Ironically, today, Lincoln haters trash him for exactly the opposite reasons.  That he didn't care, that he was only about Union.

The claim he was not against slavery, or used it for political purposes. They claim almost anything at all, it runs the gamut, from sophisticated bullshit by Foner that Lincoln "evolved"  to stupid shit by DeLorenzo that just lies his ass off. 

And at the time you could still be killed -- as Lincoln eventually was -- for speaking out too loudly for equal rights for blacks.

Try to grasp that.

Guess who never tells you about things you can learn on this page?   Foner never does -- nor Lorenzo. Nor McPherson. Nor Shelby Foote.

Nor any of 100 others.

Frederick Douglass was often critical of Lincoln at the time.   As were others.  But Douglass said the most powerful things about Lincoln,  making it very clear Lincoln made all the difference. 

Lincoln had to win elections -- he was not a paid speaker, talking to groups in New York and Maine.  And while he parsed words, he kicked ass in those speeches, even while parsing words, as you will see.

Read or hear the FULL speeches, and learn what Lincoln did, and what he faced. You won't be so stupid about him, or the Civil War, once you do.

Stupidity about Lincoln is very much tied to stupidity about what kind of scum sucking pigs  he had to deal with -- North and South.  

Guess who knew that -- Frederick Douglass knew.





 It was not just Frederick Douglass who claimed Lincoln was "radical, swift, zealous and determined".

Stephen A Douglas, accused Lincoln of being a "Nigger lover" (yes he used the N word)  who was "obsessed with equality for the Nigger".

Jefferson Davis insisted Lincoln's real plan was to destroy slavery where it existed, not just stop Davis and others from spreading it west.

New York papers claimed LIncoln was a "Negro Worshipper".

During the war, some Northern Congressmem wanted Lincoln arrested --  yes arrested -- if he even SPOKE words that said slavery should end, for the war to end.

When Lincoln spoke about slavery, before the Civil War, did you know that in MOST OF THE US it was still illegal to speak against slavery?

Did you know that?

Did you know that people were being arrested for speaking against slavery -- in most of the US, up to the Civil War? Yes or no, did you know that?

Did you know that in Kansas, the "General of Law and Order" bragged he was arresting and killing people for speaking out in public against slavery?

That must seem absurd nonsense to you -- arrested, killed, for speaking against slavery?

Yes -- a very basic fact whitewashed in US text books.

Even in Illinois, where it was legal to speak against slavery of course, it was still dangerous.  Lincoln's friend Lovejoy was murdered for his newspaper that advocating freedom and equal rights for blacks.

Did you even know that much?


If you don't know the above -- and there is plenty more -- then you don't really know shit about Lincoln and what kind of world he operated in. 

If LIncoln had spoken too bluntly and too early about ending slavery, the South wins the Civil War, because most white soldiers, and most white officers (including Grant and Sherman) would have resigned immediately. 

Did you know any of this? And this is the tip of the iceberg.

Guess who knew this -- and the whole iceberg?  Frederick Douglas. 


Yes, you can quote Lincoln, who gave over 2000 speeches, some of them hours long, any way you want.

Including the clip above -- yes those are Lincoln and Douglas actual words, and actual meanings.

That clip is perfect example of the stupid bastards who trash Lincoln. They will take tell you about one sentence -- Lincoln did say blacks and whites may not be equal in certain respects -- but not tell you Lincoln kicks fucking ass, and lowers the boom and that exact prejudice in the rest of the speech.

Nor do they tell you what LIncoln did -- and overall, Lincoln effectively kicked slavery in the ass sideways by  his actions, more than anyone else in US history. 

And LIncoln was killed for it.   Do you even know Boothe changed his plan for kidnapping Lincoln, to killing him, because he heard Lincoln's speech about voting rights for blacks?

No you didn't know that.

When you hear these bastards describe Lincoln's speech about voting rights, they always tell you that Lincoln said "certain groups"  or "educated"  blacks. 

As if Lincoln was horrible. Here is a clue -- that was fucking RADICAL SHIT when he said it, and he was killed for it.

Show me who the fuck else did what Lincoln did -- who was as radical in that time, in those places?

Yes, John Brown was as radical -- and he was captured and hung for it. In fact, the South has cried like fucking babies for 150 years for what Brown did, never mind the back story on that one. 

Foner and others go to great pains to tell you about Fremont -- who they try to portray as more of a "real abolitionist".

Here is a fucking clue -- Fremont's way would have caused the border states to go into the Confederacy.   Got that?   So let me get this straight, Lincoln should have spoke more bluntly, in your face, and lost the Civil War, and let slavery spread.   Because that was what was at stake, the spread of slavery.

Which sentences are you told about? 

You are not told where Lincoln kicked fucking ass, or how it was some radical shit Lincoln was laying down, even though he parsed words.

You are told part of the quotes, deliberately misleading in some cases -  but some people are just stupid, and don't know any better.

Just like you can quote the bible any way you want.

And Lincoln did "parse" words -- he was careful, and careful for a reason. 



But overall - Lincoln FULL speeches, his FULL debates, his FULL actions, kicked slavery in the ass sideways, till it was dead dead dead.

But there is more to the story -- so if you want to string together some quotes, go on. No one is stopping you.

If you want to know what happened --  look at the full picture 




Your "historian" bullshitters.
Things you have no clue about...

Funny how so many people today -- getting their information from bullshitters like Foner or Foote or McPherson, or worse, are suddenly experts.

They see some quotes -- out of context. They don't see the overwhelming in context speeches and documents.

They don't know what the fuck was going on at the time -- for example, that people were still being killed for speaking out too radically for ending slavery.

There is a big fucking difference between speaking to people who already agree with you, in Boston, in New York,  than speaking to people who think blacks are sub human and want to rape your daughter.

Guess where Lincoln spoke?

Guess who he spoke to?

Did you even know, as Lincoln was speaking, people were being arrested and killed in Kansas, for just speaking against slavery? No, you had no clue. Nor were they killed by outlaws-- Kansas was invaded by Texas and Missouri men, hired by Jefferson Davis and David Rice Atchison.

Atchison and his killers set up up a "government" and passed "laws" that made it a crime to speak against slavery.

In fact, Atchison led repeated killing sprees into various Kansas towns -- all with the blessing of Jeff Davis, then Secretary of War.

Guess who knew that? Lincoln.
Guess who else knew that? Douglass.

Guess who never told you about that?

Foner, McPherson, Bruce Catton, and hundreds of others.

If you don't understand the killing sprees and violence ongoing when Lincoln spoke, you really don't know shit, frankly.

And most people have no fucking clue.

Basically, people who trash Lincoln do it in two ways.  1) selected quotes  and 2) selected facts.   

But the complete quotes -- and his complete actions -- and stunning, powerful, kick ass quotes that stopped slavery, killed it dead dead dead.



For a guy against equality, for a guy who didn't really care about slavery -- Lincoln sure had weird way of obsessing about it.

Only cared about Union? Fucking hell, he gave thousands of speeches, and writes one fucking sentence about Union, and that's horrible?

Here is a clue -- and Lincoln said so -- keeping the Union together was the only way to stop slavery.

Yeah, that little "House Divided Speech" -- and dozens of others. 

SOuthern scum were going to rip the union apart  to spread slavery West.  The only way they could spread slavery, was to end the Union.

That's the House Divided speech in 2 sentences, bluntly stated.

Yes, it is.   Lincoln was nice about it -- he  had to be -- but that's the House Divided speech. Go read it.

So when Lincoln wrote that "horrible" sentence about Union -- guess what, he was cleverly parsing words.  If -- If -- If. Lincoln was a wordsmith.   

For some fucking reason, Lincoln is some bad guy cause he writes a sentence about Union.

Meanwhile, the same fuckers who try to piss on LIncoln for that, don't say a fucking word about Southern leaders, at the same time -- bragging about killing to spread slavery.

That's right, Southern leaders promised killing to spread slavery, bragged about killing to spread slavery, issued War Ultimatums about the spread of slavery.

But somehow, Lincoln is the bad guy? Jesus fucking Christ.   Lincoln is the bad guy because he parsed words?

But Lee's torture of slave girls -- not a word. Davis killing sprees -- not a word.  

Davis sending Texas killers to Kansas and David Rice Atchison, the guy who got Kansas Nebraska Act passed, bragging about killing to spread slavery, that's okay?

Fucking hell, bizzaro world.  Really. 

We have turned reality on it's fucking head. Lincoln is shown as the BAD guy, and seriously, Southern scum are shown as anti slavery.

Orwell much?


1)  Lincoln stood up to President Polk, while in Congress, essentially accused him (correctly) of stealing Texas by killing sprees, to further expand slavery.

Most people don't even know, and Lincoln detractors won't admit, that US stole Texas, and those that did it, were motivated to spread slavery.

Lincoln tried to stop that shit.

Lincoln not only stood up to Polk -- Lincoln then tried 40 times to push the Wilmont Proviso, that would keep slavery out of the newly stolen territories.

Strange obession for a guy who didn't give a shit.

2) Lincoln tried, in Congress, to stop slavery in District of Columbia.  Oh no one told you that? Surprise surprise.  

3) LIncoln got back in politics because of the killing sprees and violence in Kansas -- started by Jeff Davis and David Rice Atchison, abetted by none other that Stephen A Douglas. 

If you don't know who got the Kansas Nebraska Act passed, and why, and what they did then -- you don't know shit about LIncoln.

David Rice Atchison and Stephen A Douglas got the Kansas Act passed,  so Jeff Davis, then Secretary of War, could spread slavery into Kansas and the rest of the west.   Yes, they did.  No, you don't have a clue about that.

Lincoln had a clue --as did most of the country.   When Lincoln saw that shit happen, he got back into politics. 

How do we know? He said so at the time.

Pretty strange thing for Lincoln to do -- although you don't know s

Ending slavery (yes, ending slavery) was the focus of his life, and cost him his life.   Yes, he spoke carefully -- but read his FULL speeches, in context.

In context means -- what the hell was going on at the time. 


Lincoln lost that election, in 1858, because Douglas (Stephen) tagged him as a "Nigger lover". 

So why the fuck do "historians" not tell you that? 


Lincoln a "Nigger lover"?  Lincoln "obsessed with rights for the "Nigger"? But  but but, your  history teacher said Lincoln wasn't for equality.

Lincoln eventually killed when he spoke about voting rights for blacks.

Try to grasp this. Lincoln would have been killed much sooner, if he was blunt and direct about kicking slavery in the ass.

Lincoln parsed words -- because he had to. 

Lincoln parsed words so he would not be branded a "Nigger lover" but he was branded that anyway, by guys like S Douglas and New York papers.

Lincoln also parsed words so the border states would not join the Confederacy.  If you are too stupid to know why thats fucking very important, get off my blog, I don't have time for idiots. 

Guess who knew all this, and more?

  You sure as hell didn't. No one told you.

But Frederick Douglass  did know.  Here is a clue -- don't be fooled by bullshit.
As Frederick Douglass  and Malcolm X knew, be careful where you get  your information.  A little knowledge is often exactly wrong -- depends who told you.

Frederick Douglass saw a woman tortured to death, while the slave owner screamed bible verses to cover her agony.

He was tortured himself. He saw children sold, women raped, while the owners carried a bible around. 

So Douglass was not easily fooled by bullshit.

Did you know Lincoln stood up to President Polk, in 1848, and tried to stop him from stealing Texas from Mexico, accusing him (correctly) of stealing Texas to spread slavery?

You probably don't even know the US stole Texas by force, to spread slavery there. So you don't know that Lincoln tried to stop it.

Even after US stole Texas, Lincoln pushed for legislation 40 times to keep slavery out of that stolen land.

Did you know that? Hell no.  They don't tell you.

Did you know that as Congressmen, Lincoln tried to end slavery in DC?   Bet you didn't.  No one told you.

Guess who knew that? Douglass. Guess who didn't tell you -- Foner, McPherson, Foote, Catton, etc etch.

When Lincoln ran for office, whites were still killing whites for being "too radical for the nigger" at the time. Newspapers painted Lincoln as a "Negro worshiper".   Did you know that or not.

This is not rhetorical question -- did you, yes or no, know that? Did you know people were still arrested and tortured in place for even owning the wrong book about slavery?  

Guess who knew that?  Lincoln knew. Douglass knew.

Guess who didn't know -- you.

Ten seconds ago, you likely had no clue.  And you probably won't grasp what that means, for a long time.  It means that Lincoln actually was quite radical and extreme -- and Douglass said so -- given what he faced.


Even some "historians" claim Lincoln was "nothing special" on race, and was ambivalent about equality and ending slavery.

They even have their dozen quotes to "prove it".

But that does not explain this -- No one else was saying anything nearly as powerful as Lincoln, overall. And Lincoln was killed for it, eventually.


Read his FULL  speeches, in context. Yes, that sounds like bullshit, right?  Context?   Well if you know what Douglass knew, if you knew what Lincoln faced, you wont be so stupid.


For where he was, and who he spoke to, no one spoke as powerfully -- and his speeches, the full speeches, were thunder.  Yes, you can quote from those thunder speeches and make Lincoln look any way you like.

But read the full speeches, and know what he was doing.  His full speeches are masterful kick ass speeches, that at first seemed to agree with a prejudice of the day, and then kicked that very prejudice in the ass.

Particularly Lincoln first focused- and rightly so - on stopping the spread of slavery.   That was radical, and dangerous, at the time.

 Did you know that no one -- not Douglass, not Garrison, not anyone, spoke as powerfully, where and when Lincoln did.

Lincoln was not in Boston or Maine, getting paid to speak to people who already and safely against slavery there.  Too complicated?

Lincoln was speaking in IL, considered the "West" at the time, across the river, in several cases, from a slave state. And where men were still killed for being bluntly abolitionist.

Let that sink in, try to grasp what was going on.

Your history teacher doesn't get that -- you don't either. But guess who did -- Douglass.

Lincoln was a bad ass, overall. And more, Lincoln was effective. 

The anti slavery speakers Boston and Maine --fine.  But they were preaching to the choir.

Lincoln was kicking ass.  And he would keep kicking, harder and harder, until slavery was dead, dead dead. Yet he parsed words -- spoke carefully-- while doing so.

And people do.   Lincoln did parse words --  but his FULL speeches, his FULL actions, his FULL focus was on stopping slavery. 

And he did it.

Guess who knew that?  Not you. Douglass knew.


Douglas used the word Nigger, edited out by newspapers. Douglas in the video seems to say "Negro".  But in person, he said "Nigger"  with a tone of hate.  

No one told you that, did they?   Hell no.  Douglas (Stephen A) spoke with great emotion, spitting out the words, giving great emphasis and emotion.   He was famous for that. 

This is the kind of thing Frederick Douglass knew well, and you never had a clue. 

Not a clue.

Douglas was admonished again, and again, in the US Senate for using the N word.  But he did anyway.

You can see that right here -- this video, of movie that showed a bit Lincoln Douglas debate.  You can quote Lincoln, if you want, of being against equality.  Just take those words that accomplish that.

But overall -- if you listen to the full clip, Lincoln kicked inequality in the ass sideways.  

Still, scum sucking pigs, and stupid people, will repeat the parts about Lincoln saying a black woman is not his equal.

No one -- not even dumb asses -- left the debate thinking Lincoln was for inequality.  But the way scum sucking pigs edit the quotes, they get stupid people to think anything they want. 

You only know what you are told. 

Of the two million or so words Lincoln spoke in public, you can find several hundred that seem to "prove" Lincoln didn't believe in equality, and wasn't against slavery.

Oh you can find thousands that prove he was very much for equality, and eager to kick slavery in the ass, too. Read the FULL speech, and know the context.  And read his quotes very carefully.


No one was the least confused, when they heard Lincoln speak, (and he gave over 2000 speeches). He was against slavery, against the spread of slavery, and slavery was an evil that would eventually take over the US or be killed off.

Lincoln spoke in very careful words. He had to.  He was a master at it.  Again, and again, and again, he SEEMED to agree with part of a prejudice of the day, in the first part of a speech.  

But read the WHOLE speech. 

He then came back and kicked the shit out of, or otherwise dismiss,  the very prejudice he SEEMED to agree with.

Guess who didn't tell you that?  Your history teacher.

Guess who knew -- correctly -- that Lincoln was eager to stop slavery and end it, if he could?  His political enemies shouted that out the ass.  They claimed, correctly, Lincoln would destroy slavery just by stopping the spread of it.  

Stopping the spread of slavery would force slavery to die.  That is what Lincoln said.

And LIncoln was god damn eager to do just that -- stop the spread.  In 1850, in all the years leading up to 1863, Lincoln did not see war as a way to end slavery. There was no will to end slavery.  Most whites would not piss on  a black person,  much less go to war to free slaves in the South.

Lincoln's plan to end slavery -- stop the spread of it. Like a cancer, Lincoln said correctly, slavery would die, when it could not spread.


When Lincoln spoke, he was brilliant,  he got his point across. He changed people's minds.  And he did that, by seeming to agree, then kicking the hell out of that prejudice. 

Yeah, Lincoln could have gone to Boston and Maine to give speeches to folks who already agreed with him.  Like Garrison did.

Guess what -- Garrison got paid to go speak at places that already agreed with him.

Too complicated? Need time?   Garrison's slavery speeches got radical -- AFTER he got paid to speak. 

Lincoln was speaking in places where many folks hated, detested abolitionist. 

Did you know that? Hell no.

In fact, Southern scum on Supreme Court said blacks were not human beings, but "so inferior" they were not persons.  That was the law of the land by 1858. Did you know that even?

Hell no.  Hell no you didn't know.   All kinds of shit you didn't know.


Actually, you gotta be some kind of stupid, to think Lincoln used equality for blacks, to get white support. 


Nothing could be further from the truth.Lincoln was risking his life to speak so forcefully for equality -- and he was killed hours after he spoke for voting equality for blacks.

Oh - -but your teacher, or whoever trashed Lincoln "forgot" to mention that


Here is a clue -- Southern leaders, before the Civil War, spoke of killing the slaves, if they had to free them.

Did you know that?  HELL NO.   

Guess who knew that?  Lincoln. Guess who else?   Douglass knew.

Southern leaders said they would have to kill the slaves -- "with our own hands"  if they ever freed them.

Foner also said Dred Scott decision was "a narrow ruling".

That takes a special kinda stupid.

Actually Dred Scott specifically found blacks were "so inferior" they were not human beings, but "inferior beings"  and then ordered (yes ordered) blacks to be treated as property, not humans.

Seriously, did Foner ever bother to read the Dred Scott decision?

Davis used that decision to justify killings in Kansas, for years before the Civil War.  Did Foner bother to read Davis own justification for killings in KS, based on Dred Scott decision? WTF. Really, WTF.



You only know what you are told.

If you just went by what Lincoln did and said, however,  you would know

Some blame Lincoln for "speaking for the Union". Yes, he did, and rightly so. But he also -- and for years --spoken and acted for equality

And he was hated for it.  His enemies taunted Lincoln for being a "Nigger Lover" and even "Nigger Worshiper". 

You didn't know that, did you? Douglass knew that.

Remember -- that LONG BEFORE he spoke a word about union -- Lincoln was already kicking ass sideways. 

Every dumb ass today blames Lincoln for speaking about the Union, as if they just discovered a lost planet.

Hello dumb ass, YES, he spoke about Union.  And he had to -- most people in the North would not piss on a black person to put out a fire.

But even before that, before he ever spoke about Union, Lincoln spoke like no one else - about equality.  



Yes, Lincoln spoke about Union --  no kidding. 

But before that, before Lincoln said one God damn word about Union, he said many things about ending slavery - especially stopping slavery from spreading.

And Lincoln was hated for it.

BEFORE -- BEFORE   -- Lincoln spoke about Union, Lincoln's enemies attacked him for his obsession with equality for blacks.

Oh you didn't know that? Guess who knew that? Frederick  Douglass.

NOTHING shows the power of lies, liars, and selective editing, quite like those who trash Lincoln.

According to Frederick Douglas, no one spoke as powerfully, and did as much against slavery and for equality under the law, as Lincoln. And Douglass worked with, and for, the biggest abolitionist speaker of the time.

But Lincoln spoke to people who would not piss on a black person if they were on fire.  Garrison and others (who were paid to speak) spoke to people in Maine and to crowds who already were against slavery.

Too complicated?   No one told you that, did they?  No one got in front of the crowds Lincoln did, and spoke so powerfully, as LIncoln did.  

Guess who knew that?  You sure didn't. Nor did your teacher tell you.

But Douglass knew.

"We take Lincoln's FULL MEASURE"  said Douglass. Most people today learn about Lincoln from bullshit text books, or worse, books that trash Lincoln.

Guess what Douglass knew?  Douglass knew what LIncoln was up against -- how violent and extreme the hatred was for anyone who even hinted they were against slavery, were called "Nigger lovers"  and so on, by guys like Stephen A Douglas.

 Douglass also knew the devious lying bastards in the North, who tried to, and eventually did, kill Lincoln for being for equality.


Douglass knew Lincoln was called a "nigger lover"  who wanted white women to "sleep with niggers."

Oh you didn't know that? Surprise surprise.

And yes, Lincoln's enemies used the word NIGGER.  Stephen A Douglas was famous for it -- history books and newspapers cleaned up his use of he N word. But he said Nigger. 





Lincoln DID speak about equality for the Negro - over and over and over, long before the Civil War.  

Did you know -- yes or know -- that Lincoln spoke repeatedly and powerfully (and was hated for it) for equality under the law for blacks, BEFORE the Civil War?

Did you know he lost the election in 1858 BECAUSE he spoke so powerfully for equality?

. There can be no neutrals in this war; only patriots and traitors.

Lincolns private letter to Speed about the killers in Kansas.

I do oppose the extension of slavery, because my judgment and feelings so prompt me; and I am under no obligation to the contrary. If for this you and I must differ, differ we must. 

You say if you were President, you would send an army and hang the leaders of the Missouri outrages upon the Kansas elections; still, if Kansas fairly votes herself a slave state, she must be admitted, or the Union must be dissolved. But how if she votes herself a slave State unfairly -- that is, by the very means for which you say you would hang men? 

Must she still be admitted, or the Union be dissolved? That will be the phase of the question when it first becomes a practical one. In your assumption that there may be a fair decision of the slavery question in Kansas, I plainly see you and I would differ about the Nebraska-law. I look upon that enactment not as a law, but as violence from the beginning. It was conceived in violence, passed in violence, is maintained in violence, and is being executed in violence.

 I say (slavery) was conceived in violence, because the destruction of the Missouri Compromise, under the circumstances, was nothing less than violence. It was passed in violence, because it could not have passed at all but for the votes of many members in violence of the known will of their constituents. It is maintained in violence because the elections since, clearly demand it's repeal, and this demand is openly disregarded. You say men ought to be hung for the way they are executing that law; and I say the way it is being executed is quite as good as any of its antecedents. It is being executed in the precise way which was intended from the first; else why does no Nebraska man express astonishment or condemnation? Poor Reeder is the only public man who has been silly enough to believe that any thing like fairness was ever intended; and he has been bravely undeceived.
That Kansas will form a Slave Constitution, and, with it, will ask to be admitted into the Union, I take to be an already settled question; and so settled by the very means you so pointedly condemn. 

By every principle of law, ever held by any court, North or South, every negro taken to Kansas is free; yet, in utter disregard of this -- in the spirit of violence merely -- that beautiful Legislature gravely passes a law to hang men who shall venture to inform a negro of his legal rights.

 This is the substance, and real object of the law. If, like Haman, they should hang upon the gallows of their own building, I shall not be among the mourners for their fate.

In my humble sphere, I shall advocate the restoration of the Missouri Compromise, so long as Kansas remains a territory; and when, by all these foul means, it seeks to come into the Union as a Slave-state, I shall oppose it. 

I am very loth, in any case, to withhold my assent to the enjoyment of property acquired, or located, in good faith; but I do not admit that good faith, in taking a negro to Kansas, to be held in slavery, is a possibility with any man. Any man who has sense enough to be the controller of his own property, has too much sense to misunderstand the outrageous character of this whole Nebraska business. 

But I digress. In my opposition to the admission of Kansas I shall have some company; but we may be beaten. If we are, I shall not, on that account, attempt to dissolve the Union. 

On the contrary, if we succeed, there will be enough of us to take care of the Union. I think it probable, however, we shall be beaten. Standing as a unit among yourselves, you can, directly, and indirectly, bribe enough of our men to carry the day -- as you could on an open proposition to establish monarchy. Get hold of some man in the North, whose position and ability is such, that he can make the support of your measure -- whatever it may be -- a democratic party necessity, and the thing is done.

 Appropos [sic] of this, let me tell you an anecdote. Douglas introduced the Nebraska bill in January. In February afterwards, there was a call session of the Illinois Legislature.

 Of the one hundred members composing the two branches of that body, about seventy were democrats. These latter held a caucus, in which the Nebraska bill was talked of, if not formally discussed. It was thereby discovered that just three, and no more, were in favor of the measure.

 In a day of two Douglas's [sic] orders came on to have resolutions passed approving the bill; and they were passed by large majorities!!!

 The truth of this is vouched for by a bolting democratic member. The masses too, democratic as well as whig, were even, nearer unanimous  against it; but as soon as the party necessity of supporting it, became apparent, the way the democracy began to see the wisdom and justice of it, was perfectly astonishing.