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"Lincoln was swift, radical, zealous, and determined"  

And he ain't playing



You heard of Lincoln Douglas debates -- but did you know Stephen Douglas all but urged violence on LIncoln, because Lincoln was,    "A nigger lover who would have your daughters sleep with Niggers? 

No you had no clue.

Lincoln was
"obsessed with equality for the Nigger" Douglas shouted again and again.  

This is NOT the way you are taught history -- the extreme hatred of blacks, where even men like Stephen A Douglas won election after election by appealing to hatred of blacks, and the need to keep slavery.

Douglas would make Lincoln look like a "Nigger lover" by repeatedly telling the public he (Lincoln) was not only against slavery, but Lincoln wanted your daughters to sleep with "Niggers"

And much more.

Douglas was essentially a sell out to the South, as you will see.  He sold out by making fun of anyone against slavery, and telling folks that such "radical abolitionist" as Lincoln wanted your daughters to sleep with "Niggers" and your wives to "walk down the street" with Niggers.

How about stopping the bullshit white wash of US History, where LIncoln is trashed, and scum sucking pigs like Jeff Davis, and his buddy, Stephen A Douglas are honored?

You'd have to read the entire L-D debates to know that, and still you could not know Stephen Douglas regular use of the word "Nigger" where he sometimes spitted on his clothes in the emotion of the word. 

He didnt just say "Nigger"  he sprayed it.

"Lincoln repeats over and over that Niggers have equal rights under the law because of the Declaration of Independence, which is in violation of the Supreme Court of the United States ruling in Dred Scott" 







It's not your fault you are stupid about Lincoln. Stupid fucks and liars have given you  a distorted set of facts.

Yeah, facts matter, imagine that.

No one told you. You only know what you are told.

No one told you, because we don't teach how bat shit crazy and violent Southern leaders were.


150 years of bullshit is enough,

For example, not one person in 1000 knows that in the USA--most of the USA --in the 1840s and 1850's,  you could be arrested and tortured, even killed, by "lawful authorities"  for even speaking bluntly about equality for the races.

Did  you know that or not?  Hell no, you did not.

Did you know Southern leaders bragged out the ass -- to be blunt -- about killing to spread slavery for God?

Did you know about the Southern war ultimatums, in Richmond papers, March of 1861, headlines, boasting "THE TRUE ISSUE" was the spread of slavery.

No one alive then was at all surprised at Southern war ultimatums, nor that Southern papers would call this "THE TRUE ISSUE"..   This was well known, extremely so, for years.

It might sound odd to you -- because this aspect of Southern scum leaders, is not in our US text books. To read US text books, Southern leaders cared about states rights.

Bullshit, Southern leaders bragged states rights did not apply to the spread of slavery -- did you know that? Hell no, you never heard of that.

It's a good bet your history teacher has  no idea that when Lincoln ran for office, it was still illegal in most of the US to even own a book against slavery, or speak openly against slavery.

In all of the South (bigger in area than the free states) it was a crime -- punishable by torture -- to even own a book that questioned slavery.

Did you know that -- yes or no?

In Kansas, a US Senator was bragging that he killed to stop those who even spoke against slavery.

Did you know that? Hell no.

Did you know that the US Senator who killed to spread slavery in KS, and bragged he killed to stop speech against slavery, was officially the "General of Law and Order in Kansas" - put there by Jefferson Davis?



Lincoln enemies at the time, claimed Lincoln was called a "obsessed with equality for the Nigger"  as  Stephen A Douglas,  put it.

Did you know that -- yes or no.

Lincoln "Worshipped the Negro" said New York papers -- who also suggested Lincoln should obey SOuthern war ultimatums to spread slavery by force, into Kansas.

You had no clue the South had war ultimatums, did you? And that first on their war ultimatums, was the spread of slavery into Kansas, which had voted against slavery by 90%.

Did you even know that much?

No.   Northerners -- some anyway -- were very willing to let Southern leaders kill to spread slavery into Kansas and the west. The same papers that called Lincoln "Worshipped the Negro"


The big problem in the stupidity of most "history teachers" today, is they have no clue what the central issue was --  the spread of slavery by violence.

If you don't know that, you really don't know shit.

Lincoln knew it -- so did almost everyone alive at the time.  It was no secret. The  South's War Ultimatums were headline news, the South was very proud of those war ultimatums, till they lost.

Did you know that -- yes or no?

Hell no, you had no clue.  It's not taught this way in school.  But that's what was going on then.

And yes, Douglas said the word "Nigger".

 In fact, according to a newspaper at the time, Stephen Douglas ran from one side of the stage to the other, shouting NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER, and pulling his air, getting the crowd cheering, and yelling at Lincoln for his "Love of the Nigger".

Oh -- you didn't know that?  

And that's just the start of the shit you don't know.

Stephen A Douglas even told the crowds Lincoln wants your daughter to sleep with "NIGGERS". 

Did you know that -- or not.

 Hell no, you had no clue.  And that's just the start of what you did not know.

 It's not in your history books, you have to read the newspaper at the time -- many of the newspapers bragging about blacks being "inferior beings" not human beings under the law.

Yes, Lincoln sometimes parsed words -- no fucking kidding, he had to.  So he did.   

People were still being killed -- in most of the USA at the time -- for speaking about equality for the races.  Did you know that?

In the North, it was LEGAL, but still dangerous in some areas, to speak for equality. 

Did you know that? HELL NO. You had no clue.

In all of the South, and in Kansas, when Lincoln ran for US Senate, you could be arrested and tortured, even killed, for speaking against slavery.

No -- not killed by some crowd, but arrested and tortured by "lawful authorities".

No one told you that, did they. 

Your "history teacher" didn't tell you that.

Yet the killings to stop people from even speaking against slavery -- which was in place through most of the US at the time -- is the single most important fact of the 1850's.   

It was legal in IL to speak for equality -- but you could still be killed if you were too blunt or "radical" about it.

Did you know that?  Hell no.

Even though Lincoln did parse words, he kicked the shit out of slavery and inequality anyway, if you read his full speeches. And LIncoln's actions were even more "radical" to stop slavery.

Watch and learn. Watch and learn.


Was Douglass Stupid?

Or did he know something? 

Already world famous before Lincoln even got back in politics, Douglass saw his master torture a slave woman to death, while the master screamed bible verses.

Did you know that? 

The owner screamed bible verses to cover the begging of the slave, her cries of pain, as he tortured her to death.

Douglass himself was tortured -- and friends had to buy him, from his master.

So Frederick Douglass (two s's) was no dumb ass, he wasn't playing games, he wasn't putting up with bullshit.

If you only know what your history books tell you, so  you probably don't know shit about why Douglas would claim Lincoln was swift, radical, zealous and determined.

Because you don't know what was going on in the 1850's, to make Lincoln be such a radical, but SEEM like he agreed with some racist sentiment of the time.


Much has been made by Lincoln haters, that he wrote a letter about his duty to preserve the Union.

So the fuck what -- that WAS his duty.  He took an oath to defend the Union.  

Lincoln had ALREADY spent 14 years speaking thousands of times, about the best way to end slavery -- and stop the spread of it.

Lincoln in 1846 stood up to President Polk, accused him of going to war to spread slavery by stealing land from Mexico. He was right, of course.

Did you know that -- yes or no? Hell no.

Really, did anyone ever tell you LIncoln stood up to Polk for the war to spread slavery, in 1846?

Did you know that he was accused of "not supporting the soldiers" -- the same kind of shit going on ever since -- when he dared to speak the truth about Mexican War?

Did you know that?

Lincoln also pushed the Wilmont Proviso 40 times, that would have kept slavery out of the stolen territories.

Did you know that, yes or no? Do you even know what that Proviso was?

Lincoln pushed it.   Strange for a guy who didn't care about slavery.

In fact, Lincoln was kick ass about stopping slavery for DECADES.  This bullshit that he didn't care about slavery is so fucking lame --the lying bastards take a few quotes, ignore thousands of others, and ignore the fact, Lincoln was the leading figure against slavery.

He was RADICAL and OBSESSED with equality said he enemies.

You won't hear that from guys like Foner and McPherson, who are artful as hell about what they tell folks. 

Lincoln also tried to end slavery in district of Columbia when he was in congress.  Did you know that? Hell no.

Lincoln also refused to let Southern scum leaders attack 12 (not just one) places and kill to spread slavery, as they were already doing, and bragging about, since 1855.

Did you know that -- yes or no?

Hell no.

So Lincoln had a hell of a record against slavery, even if  your dumb ass history teacher didn't tell you. No one was more focused, in effective ways, to end slavery than he was.

Yes -- he did parse words. No fucking kidding.
See why.

But even more, Lincoln said over and over, that keeping the Union together meant slavery would end. That's the only way to end slavery -- keep the Union together.

Maybe you heard of that speech, called the "House Divided Speech".

Lincoln, by keeping the Union together, was doing two things -- ending slavery, and stopping those fucktard Southern scum leaders from killing to spread slavery.

Yeah, blunt, but that's what happened. 

Douglas also bragged the blacks were not human beings -- not persons -- under the law, but property.  As property, he told the crowds, Lincoln was "preaching revolution"  and a "radical abolitionist" for even claiming blacks are human beings and that the Declaration of Independence applied to "all men" just as it said. 

Slavery was now a right -- no state or territory could keep slavery OUT because of the "logic" of Dred Scott, that blacks were not human beings, but property. 

Bet you didn't know that.

Here -- Douglas claims the Declaration of Independence is wrong, and Lincoln is "a radical abolitionist"  because Lincoln said blacks and whites are equal under the law, per the Founding Fathers Declaration of Independence...  read it, really

Something is wrong in our history books.  We have taken out what was going on in 1850's. 

It's time to stop that shit.  Put in what was going on, or don't teach history. Either get the ugly truth out there, or don't call it history.

Call it myth making.


Didn't Douglass know Lincoln was "reluctant" to abolish slavery, and was not really against slavery?

Didn't he know that 100 years later, white men would pull out quotes and "prove" Lincoln didn't care? He only cared about Union. Right?

The whole "slave thing" was not something Lincoln cared about. Right? 

Maybe if Douglass was not such a dumb ass, and would just read modern "historians" he wouldn't be so stupid.


 Didn't he know about Lincoln's letter to Greeley? Didn't he know Lincoln's quotes?

Hell yes, he knew. And he knew a lot more. 

Douglass knew stuff that you don't have a fucking clue about.

Like blacks were officially ruled as non-human (not persons) but property, buy the United States Supreme Court.

Do you know that every time Lincoln got up and quoted from the Declaration of Independence,  he was "preaching rebellion"  said Stephen A Douglas.

Douglas -- and the Southern leaders, had literally declared, specifically, that the Declaration of Independence was wrong.  Blacks are not persons, are not men, are not equals.

Do you know that?  Did anyone tell you that?

Southern leaders -- and Stephen A Douglas,  didn't admit it -- they BRAGGED OUT THE ASS that the Declaration of Independence was wrong. 

In fact, they cited the Dred Scott decision as "Constitutional proof"  and the basis for their killing sprees into Kansas.

Yes, the South was already killing in Kansas before Lincoln even ran for Senate --and their own General of Law and Order (Davis Rice Atchison) bragged he was killing to spread slavery, and stop opposition to slavery.

In fact, Atchison's speech to his killers, should be required reading in every US history book, it's as important as any speech of the century.  And I doubt you ever heard of Atchison, or his speech to his Texas killers, hired by Jefferson Davis, as Secretary of War, in 1856.

I bet no one ever told you that, did they. 

Seriously, in your entire life, even once, did anyone tell you Jefferson Davis and Stephen A Douglas both insisted the Declaration of Independence was not only wrong --  but anyone who said it was correct, was "preaching revolution".

Did anyone ever tell you a US Senator -- the guy who passed Kansas Nebraska -- then rushed to Kansas to being terrorizing and killing to spread slavery?

Well, everyone knew it then.   Charles Sumner was beaten on the Senate floor, for speaking about David Rice Atchison and his killings in Kansas.   Go read the "Crimes Against Kansas" speech if you don't believe me

Lincoln, if he spoke like that in KS, would have been arrested, perhaps killed. In fact, if you spoke like Lincoln did anywhere in  South, you could be arrested. 

People were arrested -- even preachers -- for owning the wrong book.  

Guess who knew that?  Frederick Douglass knew.

Guess who didn't have a fucking clue?  You -- and your history teacher, most likely.

Officially, repeatedly, loudly, proudly, Northern folks like Stephen A Douglas, (one s)  claimed Lincoln was a dangerous radical preaching rebellion, for simply saying all men are created equal.

Like Lincoln's Northern enemies called him a "Nigger lover" who "worshipped the Nigger" and "preached revolution" by claiming blacks were equal to whites under the law, per the Declaration of Independence, and that slavery must end, or the US will end.



Did you know that? Ever read his full speeches?

Funny how everyone claims the read his full speeches, but can't answer the simple questions about what he said.

Like his House Divided Speech.  Do you know Lincoln is exposing the conspiracy to spread slavery by any means (including killing) against states rights?

Did you even  have a clue?

No one was as radical as Lincoln, where Lincoln was, and when he was.



When those who trash Lincoln give you those partial quotes, they also don't tell you context.  

Like this context -- when Lincoln spoke before the Civil War, people in much of the USA could still be arrested and tortured,  even killed for speaking against slavery.

Not just assaulted by crazy folks -- in most of the USA, when Lincoln ran for Senate, you could be arrested by "lawful authorities" for speaking against slavery.

Did you know that -- or not. Yes or no?

Did you know that while it was legal in Illinois to speak against slavery, most whites hated blacks, and it was illegal for blacks to move to Illinois. 

Abolitionist -- those who advocated freedom for slaves --were not running for office. The few abolitionist that dared to speak powerfully against slavery, spoke to folks who already agreed with them.   They were not in IL talking to people who thought blacks were kinda apes that could talk, that thought blacks were not really human beings like whites.


As you will see, the official stated official policy of the United States, when Lincoln ran for Senate, (both times) was that blacks are not persons but property.

Did you know that or not? Yes or no?

When Lincoln got up "over and over"  and was "obsessed with equality for the Nigger" as Stephen Douglas accused him of being, Lincoln was a dangerous radial.

Douglas --Stephen A -- all but urged Lincoln to be attacked, as people could be attacked in most of the US at the time.
Blacks were "inferior beings" said the SCOTUS. Jefferson Davis boasted of this repeatedly, and Stephen A Douglas boasted of it, in the Lincoln Douglas debates, calling Lincoln a "Nigger lover"  and "radical abolitionist" for showing what vile crap the Supreme Court had done.

Did you know that -- yes or no?

Hell no, you had no fucking clue.  This is not taught in schools.  Dred Scott "lesson" is always some whitewashed bullshit about "citizenship".

Fuck no -- it was about whether blacks were human beings or property. Try to grasp that.

Guess who knew that -- Frederick Douglass. Guess who had no clue -- you.

Guess who ran for Senate, and then President, because he hated the Dred Scott decision?  


Did you know that, or not?   Hell no, you didn't know that. Guess who did know that?  Frederick Douglass. 

Welcome to real history, as it was bragged about then, by Southern leaders.

They didn't admit it, the BRAGGED about it. And yes, they bragged blacks were ordained by God to be enslaved, and they bragged the US Supreme Court ruled blacks were inferior beings.


 Nigger lover

 Negro  Worshiper.

 Obessed with equality for the Nigger

 Preaching revolution

 A traitor for claiming blacks were persons.

I'd like to fucking slap every mother fucking piece of shit "historian" who glosses over this -- and they do.

They do not even mention what Southern leaders -- and Stephen A Douglas -- were bragging out the ass about. Nor do they tell you Southern leaders were bragging already about killing to spread slavery in Kansas -- justifying it by the the "logic" in Dred Scott that blacks were not human beings -- not persons.

Not one "history teacher" out of 1000 know this -- but it's in the decision itself, and very fundamental to everything that lead up the Civil War.

Frederick Douglass knew all this, of course, most people alive in the USA knew this, but you did not, did you?

Southern leaders bragged out the ass about it -- used it to justify their killing sprees into Kansas.

Did you know that? They didn't kinda justify their killing sprees, they didn't sorta justify their killing sprees, they good god damn well bragged out the ass about the Dred Scott decision being their "Constitutional right"  to not just spread slavery -- but to arrest and even kill those who spoke against slavery.

Yeah, that does sound crazy now, right?   Well it's what was going on then, whether your dumb ass history teacher knows it, or told you, or not.

That's what Lincoln was dealing with, when he ran for office, and its WHY he ran for office. 

Did you know that? Did you know in letters at the time LIncoln told friends (Speed) he was getting back into politics because of this shit that was going on in Kansas, by these bastards?

No -- you don't know that. 

 Lincoln opponents said he would cause a war if he kept saying blacks were persons, not sub human property. 

Wants your daughters "to sleep with " Niggers. 

Why would Stephen A Douglas use that line over, and over, and over -- see the clip above.


Lincoln  was called -- over and over -- in public and  in newspapers as dangerous, just for speaking about equality of the races in most general terms, and saying we must stop the SPREAD of slavery.

No one else -- where and when he was -- were doing this. Overall, as you will see, Lincoln kicked ass in his speeches.  Read the whole speech, not just part of it.

Lincoln kicked ass -- and kicked it from 1837 on. He kicked slavery in the ass in thousands of speeches. He stood up to President Polk in 1846 while in Congress, on the issue of slavery and stealing Texas to push slavery further.

Yes, the US stole Texas, and did so to push slavery further. If you don't know that, get the fuck off this page, learn history, and come back.

Lincoln kicked ass in Congress too, by trying to push the Wilmont Proviso outlawing slavery, 40 times. The Wilmont Proviso would have kept slavery out of the stolen territories.  Of course, those who stole Texas to spread slavery, were  not about to let Lincoln keep slavery out.

Did you know that, yes or no?

Oh you mean Eric Foner, and other "historians" forgot to tell you? Do tell. 

Lincoln also kicked ass by trying to end slavery in district of Columbia, as a Congressmen.  You didn't know that did you?

In the hundreds, thousands, of speeches, Lincoln gave the same basic message in each speech. Read the whole thing. Slavery is evil. Slavery must end. Let's figure a way to end it.


Lincoln's first choice was to stop the spread of slavery.  Since you don't have a fucking clue, most likely, that Southern leaders were killing to spread slavery, and that Dred Scott essentially mandated the spread of slavery (DS made it impossible for any legislature or group of people -- even voters -- to keep slavery out of anyplace, by their order and declaration that blacks are not persons, and the order, yes order, that the fed government protect slavery.

You heard right -- this is probably the first time in your life you heard that Dred Scott decision ORDERED the fed gov to protect slavery, and that blacks were not human beings, not persons.

But that is exactly who Dred Scott was used -- and the South bragged of it, out the ass. Stephen A Douglas gave dozens, if not hundreds of long and very specific speeches bragging of this.  

So why the fuck are we not taught about it?

Because it's really vile shit, and the South has published almost all text books in the USA since text books were published. 

And "historians" like dip shit James McPherson is too pussy to state anything like this candidly. 

 Did you know about Southern violence, military violence, official, paid for, organized killing sprees, to spread slavery. Before the Civil War -- did you know Jeff Davis hired Texas killers to invade Kansas, yes or no?

No -- you don't have a clue. 

Did you or your history teacher tell you, did any "scholarly" book by McPherson, Foner, Catton, etc, ever even mention this, even on page 200, down in any paragraph.  At all?

Did they mention, much less show how extreme the hate for Lincoln -- in the North!  In the South, of course, Lincoln was considered the destroyer of the White Race.   Did you know Southerners claimed Lincoln would cause the "extermination of the white race??

Did any of these "historians" or any of your history books tell you, that Lincoln's enemies at the time, again, and again, and again called him everything from a Nigger lover to a Negro worshiper.

And he was eventually killed -- shot in the head -- because of it. 

Stephen A Douglas used that approach, because it made people hate Lincoln -- and made it dangerous for him to come out too bluntly for abolition.

Most white people in the North hated abolitionist almost as much as they hated negroes.  Did you know that or not?

In the South, they accused Lincoln of treason, and would have arrested and hung  him, if he even campaigned there. Did you know that?

Nor do you know that by time Lincoln ran for the Senate (see the video for this too) the SCOTUS had already ruled -- officially -- that blacks were not human beings, not persons. 

People were still being arrested and tortured -- did you know that or not -- for speaking against slavery, or even owning a book against slaery, in the entire South, and in Kansas.

Not kinda tortured, not kinda killed, not by some "crazy individuals" by by "lawful authorities" people were being arrested, tortured, and killed by men Jefferson Davis appointed, and backed, as Secretary of War.

Do you even know who David Rice Atchison is?

As your teacher who David Rice Atchison is, and if he or she doesn't know that Atchison was a US Senator that bragged about killing to spread slavery and killing to stop folks from speaking against slavery, then you have a stupid teacher.

Because that's what was going on. And Atchison was backed up by the Scum Sucking Pigs on the United States Supreme Court, though Atchison was already killing and torturing for over a year,  and THEN Dred Scott decision came out, allowing Southern bastards to retroactively justify the killings and torture.

Yes, killings and torture. Yes, a  US Senator. No, this is not hyped or sophistry. This is what fucking happened. 

Lincoln will destroy the white race.  Did you know that or not? Whites claimed Lincoln's very mild and parsed words were bad enough -- even his parsed words were dangerous to whites.

I don't mean one or two people were arrested, in isolated unusual cases. I mean people were chased down, captured, and tortured,  or worse, for speaking against slavery.

Lincoln's enemies tried to frighten him -- by telling the public, openly, repeatedly, that Lincoln wanted your daughters to sleep with "Niggers".

Yes that's the word used.  Stephen A Douglas used that word.

Frederick Douglass knew that. In fact, Stephen A Douglass would tell people before the debates, that Lincoln and Frederick Douglass were seen together with a white woman in a carriage together the day before.   F Douglass, of course, was no where near there, but Stephen A Douglas knew that telling folks such "jokes" would make them hate and fear Lincoln.

Why  is that not taught in our school text books? I want to know. 

In the North, people would still be killed -- as Lincoln was killed-- if they spoke too powerfully for equality for blacks. Did you even know that much? 

Did you know that -- yes or no?

Im always surprised (just kidding Im used to it) when "history majors"  and "history teachers": tell me Lincoln was not against slavery really. 

Lincoln did little else BUT speak and work against slavery from 1837 on,    He gave thousands of speeches -- every fucking one of them about slavery and why it had to be stopped, why it must be stopped eventually.   




So did Stephen A Douglas. So did most people alive in 1850's.   You very likely have no clue -- you are NOT told this stuff, in the way it was discussed them.,

Lincoln was "PREACHING REVOLUTION" and "Nigger equality" said Stephen A Douglas.

This was the basic message from Stephen A Douglas --- he repeated it emphatically, loudly, proudly, in every Lincoln/DOuglas debate, and in many of his own speeches, without Lincoln.

Did you even know this? 

This is not rhetorical - did you know this?

 Lincoln was accused by the South of treason, and by Stephen Douglas of urging a civil war, if he even questioned the Supreme Court ruling that blacks are inferior beings, not persons.

Jefferson Davis himself wrote that the "resistance to the spread of slavery"   was the "intolerable grievance"   because Dred Scott decision ruled that blacks were not persons. 

Did you know that? Yes or no.   Seriously -did you know that?   Here it is, if you don't believe me.

Jefferson Davis didn't just write this in his book, this was shouted from the rooftops by the South -- the Dred Scott decision (that blacks were not persons) was their "Constitutional guarantee" that they could spread slavery wherever they damn please -- including Kansas, which voted 90% against slavery, no matter what Dred Scott said.

But since most history teachers are too stupid to even read the Dred Scott decision, and since they don't know Lincoln Douglas debates were about that, they could not tell you anything about LIncoln being called a "Revolutionary"  and a "Nigger lover"  for speaking for equality.

Equality was a settled issue -- said Stephen A Douglas. Blacks were NOT equal, they were property.   If you did not see the video clip above, see it now, or again.

Yes it's a clip -- but you are probably too stupid to even find the LIncoln Douglas debates and read the whole things. Go read the whole debates, and you will be even smarter. 

 Lincoln was preaching "Revolution" to say otherwise.

Southern leaders where getting crowds to cheer -- -the white race would be "exterminated"  if Lincoln had his way. Blacks are inferior beings, not persons.  

Did you know that?

So when Lincoln got up and said anything -- howerever carefully, he was accused of being a radical "Nigger lover".  

And Stephen A Douglas pointed this out proudly -- what he and Southern leaders boasted of (see the video above) most history teachers today, do not even know what a  factor, much less the most important forces at work in Lincoln's life, and in the lead up to the Civil War.

Did you know that or not?

Ironically, today, Lincoln haters trash him for exactly the opposite reasons.  That he didn't care, that he was only about Union.

The claim he was not against slavery, or used it for political purposes. They claim almost anything at all, it runs the gamut, from sophisticated bullshit by Foner that Lincoln "evolved"  to stupid shit by DeLorenzo that just lies his ass off. 

And at the time you could still be killed -- as Lincoln eventually was -- for speaking out too loudly for equal rights for blacks.

Try to grasp that.

Guess who never tells you about things you can learn on this page?   Foner never does -- nor Lorenzo. Nor McPherson. Nor Shelby Foote.

Nor any of 100 others.

Frederick Douglass was often critical of Lincoln at the time.   As were others.  But Douglass said the most powerful things about Lincoln,  making it very clear Lincoln made all the difference. 

Lincoln had to win elections -- he was not a paid speaker, talking to groups in New York and Maine.  And while he parsed words, he kicked ass in those speeches, even while parsing words, as you will see.

Read or hear the FULL speeches, and learn what Lincoln did, and what he faced. You won't be so stupid about him, or the Civil War, once you do.

Stupidity about Lincoln is very much tied to stupidity about what kind of scum sucking pigs  he had to deal with -- North and South.  

Guess who knew that -- Frederick Douglass knew.





 It was not just Frederick Douglass who claimed Lincoln was "radical, swift, zealous and determined".

Stephen A Douglas, accused Lincoln of being a "Nigger lover" (yes he used the N word)  who was "obsessed with equality for the Nigger".

Jefferson Davis insisted Lincoln's real plan was to destroy slavery where it existed, not just stop Davis and others from spreading it west.

New York papers claimed LIncoln was a "Negro Worshipper".

During the war, some Northern Congressmem wanted Lincoln arrested --  yes arrested -- if he even SPOKE words that said slavery should end, for the war to end.

When Lincoln spoke about slavery, before the Civil War, did you know that in MOST OF THE US it was still illegal to speak against slavery?

Did you know that?

Did you know that people were being arrested for speaking against slavery -- in most of the US, up to the Civil War? Yes or no, did you know that?

Did you know that in Kansas, the "General of Law and Order" bragged he was arresting and killing people for speaking out in public against slavery?

That must seem absurd nonsense to you -- arrested, killed, for speaking against slavery?

Yes -- a very basic fact whitewashed in US text books.

Even in Illinois, where it was legal to speak against slavery of course, it was still dangerous.  Lincoln's friend Lovejoy was murdered for his newspaper that advocating freedom and equal rights for blacks.

Did you even know that much?


If you don't know the above -- and there is plenty more -- then you don't really know shit about Lincoln and what kind of world he operated in. 

If LIncoln had spoken too bluntly and too early about ending slavery, the South wins the Civil War, because most white soldiers, and most white officers (including Grant and Sherman) would have resigned immediately. 

Did you know any of this? And this is the tip of the iceberg.

Guess who knew this -- and the whole iceberg?  Frederick Douglas. 


Yes, you can quote Lincoln, who gave over 2000 speeches, some of them hours long, any way you want.

Including the clip above -- yes those are Lincoln and Douglas actual words, and actual meanings.

That clip is perfect example of the stupid bastards who trash Lincoln. They will take tell you about one sentence -- Lincoln did say blacks and whites may not be equal in certain respects -- but not tell you Lincoln kicks fucking ass, and lowers the boom and that exact prejudice in the rest of the speech.

Nor do they tell you what LIncoln did -- and overall, Lincoln effectively kicked slavery in the ass sideways by  his actions, more than anyone else in US history. 

And LIncoln was killed for it.   Do you even know Boothe changed his plan for kidnapping Lincoln, to killing him, because he heard Lincoln's speech about voting rights for blacks?

No you didn't know that.

When you hear these bastards describe Lincoln's speech about voting rights, they always tell you that Lincoln said "certain groups"  or "educated"  blacks. 

As if Lincoln was horrible. Here is a clue -- that was fucking RADICAL SHIT when he said it, and he was killed for it.

Show me who the fuck else did what Lincoln did -- who was as radical in that time, in those places?

Yes, John Brown was as radical -- and he was captured and hung for it. In fact, the South has cried like fucking babies for 150 years for what Brown did, never mind the back story on that one. 

Foner and others go to great pains to tell you about Fremont -- who they try to portray as more of a "real abolitionist".

Here is a fucking clue -- Fremont's way would have caused the border states to go into the Confederacy.   Got that?   So let me get this straight, Lincoln should have spoke more bluntly, in your face, and lost the Civil War, and let slavery spread.   Because that was what was at stake, the spread of slavery.

Which sentences are you told about? 

You are not told where Lincoln kicked fucking ass, or how it was some radical shit Lincoln was laying down, even though he parsed words.

You are told part of the quotes, deliberately misleading in some cases -  but some people are just stupid, and don't know any better.

Just like you can quote the bible any way you want.

And Lincoln did "parse" words -- he was careful, and careful for a reason. 



But overall - Lincoln FULL speeches, his FULL debates, his FULL actions, kicked slavery in the ass sideways, till it was dead dead dead.

But there is more to the story -- so if you want to string together some quotes, go on. No one is stopping you.

If you want to know what happened --  look at the full picture 




Your "historian" bullshitters.
Things you have no clue about...

Funny how so many people today -- getting their information from bullshitters like Foner or Foote or McPherson, or worse, are suddenly experts.

They see some quotes -- out of context. They don't see the overwhelming in context speeches and documents.

They don't know what the fuck was going on at the time -- for example, that people were still being killed for speaking out too radically for ending slavery.

There is a big fucking difference between speaking to people who already agree with you, in Boston, in New York,  than speaking to people who think blacks are sub human and want to rape your daughter.

Guess where Lincoln spoke?

Guess who he spoke to?

Did you even know, as Lincoln was speaking, people were being arrested and killed in Kansas, for just speaking against slavery? No, you had no clue. Nor were they killed by outlaws-- Kansas was invaded by Texas and Missouri men, hired by Jefferson Davis and David Rice Atchison.

Atchison and his killers set up up a "government" and passed "laws" that made it a crime to speak against slavery.

In fact, Atchison led repeated killing sprees into various Kansas towns -- all with the blessing of Jeff Davis, then Secretary of War.

Guess who knew that? Lincoln.
Guess who else knew that? Douglass.

Guess who never told you about that?

Foner, McPherson, Bruce Catton, and hundreds of others.

If you don't understand the killing sprees and violence ongoing when Lincoln spoke, you really don't know shit, frankly.

And most people have no fucking clue.

Basically, people who trash Lincoln do it in two ways.  1) selected quotes  and 2) selected facts.   

But the complete quotes -- and his complete actions -- and stunning, powerful, kick ass quotes that stopped slavery, killed it dead dead dead.



For a guy against equality, for a guy who didn't really care about slavery -- Lincoln sure had weird way of obsessing about it.

Only cared about Union? Fucking hell, he gave thousands of speeches, and writes one fucking sentence about Union, and that's horrible?

Here is a clue -- and Lincoln said so -- keeping the Union together was the only way to stop slavery.

Yeah, that little "House Divided Speech" -- and dozens of others. 

SOuthern scum were going to rip the union apart  to spread slavery West.  The only way they could spread slavery, was to end the Union.

That's the House Divided speech in 2 sentences, bluntly stated.

Yes, it is.   Lincoln was nice about it -- he  had to be -- but that's the House Divided speech. Go read it.

So when Lincoln wrote that "horrible" sentence about Union -- guess what, he was cleverly parsing words.  If -- If -- If. Lincoln was a wordsmith.   

For some fucking reason, Lincoln is some bad guy cause he writes a sentence about Union.

Meanwhile, the same fuckers who try to piss on LIncoln for that, don't say a fucking word about Southern leaders, at the same time -- bragging about killing to spread slavery.

That's right, Southern leaders promised killing to spread slavery, bragged about killing to spread slavery, issued War Ultimatums about the spread of slavery.

But somehow, Lincoln is the bad guy? Jesus fucking Christ.   Lincoln is the bad guy because he parsed words?

But Lee's torture of slave girls -- not a word. Davis killing sprees -- not a word.  

Davis sending Texas killers to Kansas and David Rice Atchison, the guy who got Kansas Nebraska Act passed, bragging about killing to spread slavery, that's okay?

Fucking hell, bizzaro world.  Really. 

We have turned reality on it's fucking head. Lincoln is shown as the BAD guy, and seriously, Southern scum are shown as anti slavery.

Orwell much?


1)  Lincoln stood up to President Polk, while in Congress, essentially accused him (correctly) of stealing Texas by killing sprees, to further expand slavery.

Most people don't even know, and Lincoln detractors won't admit, that US stole Texas, and those that did it, were motivated to spread slavery.

Lincoln tried to stop that shit.

Lincoln not only stood up to Polk -- Lincoln then tried 40 times to push the Wilmont Proviso, that would keep slavery out of the newly stolen territories.

Strange obession for a guy who didn't give a shit.

2) Lincoln tried, in Congress, to stop slavery in District of Columbia.  Oh no one told you that? Surprise surprise.  

3) LIncoln got back in politics because of the killing sprees and violence in Kansas -- started by Jeff Davis and David Rice Atchison, abetted by none other that Stephen A Douglas. 

If you don't know who got the Kansas Nebraska Act passed, and why, and what they did then -- you don't know shit about LIncoln.

David Rice Atchison and Stephen A Douglas got the Kansas Act passed,  so Jeff Davis, then Secretary of War, could spread slavery into Kansas and the rest of the west.   Yes, they did.  No, you don't have a clue about that.

Lincoln had a clue --as did most of the country.   When Lincoln saw that shit happen, he got back into politics. 

How do we know? He said so at the time.

Pretty strange thing for Lincoln to do -- although you don't know s

Ending slavery (yes, ending slavery) was the focus of his life, and cost him his life.   Yes, he spoke carefully -- but read his FULL speeches, in context.

In context means -- what the hell was going on at the time. 


Lincoln lost that election, in 1858, because Douglas (Stephen) tagged him as a "Nigger lover". 

So why the fuck do "historians" not tell you that? 


Lincoln a "Nigger lover"?  Lincoln "obsessed with rights for the "Nigger"? But  but but, your  history teacher said Lincoln wasn't for equality.

Lincoln eventually killed when he spoke about voting rights for blacks.

Try to grasp this. Lincoln would have been killed much sooner, if he was blunt and direct about kicking slavery in the ass.

Lincoln parsed words -- because he had to. 

Lincoln parsed words so he would not be branded a "Nigger lover" but he was branded that anyway, by guys like S Douglas and New York papers.

Lincoln also parsed words so the border states would not join the Confederacy.  If you are too stupid to know why thats fucking very important, get off my blog, I don't have time for idiots. 

Guess who knew all this, and more?

  You sure as hell didn't. No one told you.

But Frederick Douglass  did know.  Here is a clue -- don't be fooled by bullshit.
As Frederick Douglass  and Malcolm X knew, be careful where you get  your information.  A little knowledge is often exactly wrong -- depends who told you.

Frederick Douglass saw a woman tortured to death, while the slave owner screamed bible verses to cover her agony.

He was tortured himself. He saw children sold, women raped, while the owners carried a bible around. 

So Douglass was not easily fooled by bullshit.

Did you know Lincoln stood up to President Polk, in 1848, and tried to stop him from stealing Texas from Mexico, accusing him (correctly) of stealing Texas to spread slavery?

You probably don't even know the US stole Texas by force, to spread slavery there. So you don't know that Lincoln tried to stop it.

Even after US stole Texas, Lincoln pushed for legislation 40 times to keep slavery out of that stolen land.

Did you know that? Hell no.  They don't tell you.

Did you know that as Congressmen, Lincoln tried to end slavery in DC?   Bet you didn't.  No one told you.

Guess who knew that? Douglass. Guess who didn't tell you -- Foner, McPherson, Foote, Catton, etc etch.

When Lincoln ran for office, whites were still killing whites for being "too radical for the nigger" at the time. Newspapers painted Lincoln as a "Negro worshiper".   Did you know that or not.

This is not rhetorical question -- did you, yes or no, know that? Did you know people were still arrested and tortured in place for even owning the wrong book about slavery?  

Guess who knew that?  Lincoln knew. Douglass knew.

Guess who didn't know -- you.

Ten seconds ago, you likely had no clue.  And you probably won't grasp what that means, for a long time.  It means that Lincoln actually was quite radical and extreme -- and Douglass said so -- given what he faced.


Even some "historians" claim Lincoln was "nothing special" on race, and was ambivalent about equality and ending slavery.

They even have their dozen quotes to "prove it".

But that does not explain this -- No one else was saying anything nearly as powerful as Lincoln, overall. And Lincoln was killed for it, eventually.


Read his FULL  speeches, in context. Yes, that sounds like bullshit, right?  Context?   Well if you know what Douglass knew, if you knew what Lincoln faced, you wont be so stupid.


For where he was, and who he spoke to, no one spoke as powerfully -- and his speeches, the full speeches, were thunder.  Yes, you can quote from those thunder speeches and make Lincoln look any way you like.

But read the full speeches, and know what he was doing.  His full speeches are masterful kick ass speeches, that at first seemed to agree with a prejudice of the day, and then kicked that very prejudice in the ass.

Particularly Lincoln first focused- and rightly so - on stopping the spread of slavery.   That was radical, and dangerous, at the time.

 Did you know that no one -- not Douglass, not Garrison, not anyone, spoke as powerfully, where and when Lincoln did.

Lincoln was not in Boston or Maine, getting paid to speak to people who already and safely against slavery there.  Too complicated?

Lincoln was speaking in IL, considered the "West" at the time, across the river, in several cases, from a slave state. And where men were still killed for being bluntly abolitionist.

Let that sink in, try to grasp what was going on.

Your history teacher doesn't get that -- you don't either. But guess who did -- Douglass.

Lincoln was a bad ass, overall. And more, Lincoln was effective. 

The anti slavery speakers Boston and Maine --fine.  But they were preaching to the choir.

Lincoln was kicking ass.  And he would keep kicking, harder and harder, until slavery was dead, dead dead. Yet he parsed words -- spoke carefully-- while doing so.

And people do.   Lincoln did parse words --  but his FULL speeches, his FULL actions, his FULL focus was on stopping slavery. 

And he did it.

Guess who knew that?  Not you. Douglass knew.


Douglas used the word Nigger, edited out by newspapers. Douglas in the video seems to say "Negro".  But in person, he said "Nigger"  with a tone of hate.  

No one told you that, did they?   Hell no.  Douglas (Stephen A) spoke with great emotion, spitting out the words, giving great emphasis and emotion.   He was famous for that. 

This is the kind of thing Frederick Douglass knew well, and you never had a clue. 

Not a clue.

Douglas was admonished again, and again, in the US Senate for using the N word.  But he did anyway.

You can see that right here -- this video, of movie that showed a bit Lincoln Douglas debate.  You can quote Lincoln, if you want, of being against equality.  Just take those words that accomplish that.

But overall -- if you listen to the full clip, Lincoln kicked inequality in the ass sideways.  

Still, scum sucking pigs, and stupid people, will repeat the parts about Lincoln saying a black woman is not his equal.

No one -- not even dumb asses -- left the debate thinking Lincoln was for inequality.  But the way scum sucking pigs edit the quotes, they get stupid people to think anything they want. 

You only know what you are told. 

Of the two million or so words Lincoln spoke in public, you can find several hundred that seem to "prove" Lincoln didn't believe in equality, and wasn't against slavery.

Oh you can find thousands that prove he was very much for equality, and eager to kick slavery in the ass, too. Read the FULL speech, and know the context.  And read his quotes very carefully.


No one was the least confused, when they heard Lincoln speak, (and he gave over 2000 speeches). He was against slavery, against the spread of slavery, and slavery was an evil that would eventually take over the US or be killed off.

Lincoln spoke in very careful words. He had to.  He was a master at it.  Again, and again, and again, he SEEMED to agree with part of a prejudice of the day, in the first part of a speech.  

But read the WHOLE speech. 

He then came back and kicked the shit out of, or otherwise dismiss,  the very prejudice he SEEMED to agree with.

Guess who didn't tell you that?  Your history teacher.

Guess who knew -- correctly -- that Lincoln was eager to stop slavery and end it, if he could?  His political enemies shouted that out the ass.  They claimed, correctly, Lincoln would destroy slavery just by stopping the spread of it.  

Stopping the spread of slavery would force slavery to die.  That is what Lincoln said.

And LIncoln was god damn eager to do just that -- stop the spread.  In 1850, in all the years leading up to 1863, Lincoln did not see war as a way to end slavery. There was no will to end slavery.  Most whites would not piss on  a black person,  much less go to war to free slaves in the South.

Lincoln's plan to end slavery -- stop the spread of it. Like a cancer, Lincoln said correctly, slavery would die, when it could not spread.




Lincoln's 180 degree turn trick

  Lincoln did have a speaking style, that he used practically every time, that SEEMED to agree with some prejudice.  

Douglass, of course, knew Lincoln personally.  And more, he knew what kind of scum sucking pigs slave owners were and slave appeasing politicians were, and he knew who helped those slave owners.

Douglass knew what Lincoln was up against.  


Which words are correct?

NO one ever attended a Lincoln speech, and left thinking he was okay with slavery, okay with inequality, in fact Lincoln brought down the thunder, kicked slavery in the ass sideways, if you read his full speeches.

Yes he parced words, or he would have been killed sooner.  That is not hype -- not only would LIncoln not get elected to anything, if he was blunt and candid, but he would probably have been killed. People were killed in those places, and that time, for being too radical for abolition. 

Did you know that or not?

Really did you know that?

Garrison, Phillips, even Frederick Douglass, were speaking in Maine, or New York, and even then they were speaking to crowds that already agreed with him.

Did you know that?  Hell no.

Did your history teacher tell you that?  Probably not.

When Lincoln spoke, where he did, how he did, it took balls.  And he kicked ass in the full speech, powerfully, over all. 

His speeches changed people's mind BECAUSE at first he seemed to agree with them. He validated what they felt and thought.  But then, he went on, he kept speaking.

Got that?   Lincoln had to appeal to these folks, for their votes.


  Remember that, Lincoln's words worked. He would eventually be killed for them, after his speech on voting rights for blacks.    But your history teach or other Lincoln trashers didn't tell you that.

Douglass knew that, too.  Did you? 

Never mind the stunning and powerful actions Lincoln took,  long before, and leading up to, and during the Civil War, to end slavery.

Lincoln had a long history, from 1846 on, to end slavery as fast as possible. DId you know he tried to end slavery in DC when he was a Congressmen? Hell no. 

Did you know he accused the President, at the time, (correctly) of wanting war with Mexico so the US would steal Texas, to make a huge slave state, maybe four or five states?


Did you know Lincoln ended slavery in DC very quickly, when he became President?  Hell no.

Did you know Lincoln was called a Nigger lover and Negro worshipper?

Hell no.

See, there are lots of things dumb asses believe, when they only learn half a story. And this is one of them.

Never mind that most "history" teachers could not tell you Lincoln much about what Lincoln did to end slavery, starting in 1846-1847. 

But those "history" teachers can point to some quotes, absent the full speeches, and tell you how "ambivilant"  or racist Lincoln was.

Bull fucking shit. Lincoln was wisely doing all he could, as fast as he could, said Frederick Douglass.

Yeah, I know you are smarter than Douglass, cause you read some boooshit half truths.   

If you want to be swayed by bullshit, there is plenty out there. Go for it.

But if you want to know what Frederick Douglass knew, your history teacher probably can't tell you.  Because it's not in US text books.

Frederick Douglass was there --  he was not fooled by bullshit.  He saw women whipped to death by a man screaming scriptures, he was chased, and tortured, he had to be bought by his friends, to stop being re-enslaved.

He was more famous than Lincoln --   and he knew a hell of a lot more than the ass wipes that use a few edited and out of context quotes to piss on Lincoln.

Douglass had to educated stupid people then.   Maybe he knew something.   


What Frederick Douglass knew,
and you don't.

150 years of bullshit is enough. Frederick Douglass corrected stupid people then, and he can correct them now.   


It's become almost fashionable now for stupid people to get attention, write books, and give speeches,  pissing on Lincoln, by claiming everything from he was not against slavery really, to he just used slavery to get power.

Still, there are quotes that seem to validate Lincoln as not "really" against slavery or equality.  Never mind the power and thunder Lincoln blasted slavery with, in his full speeches, never mind that Lincoln was accused often of being a "Nigger lover" and "obsessed" with "equality for the Nigger"  at the time.

Douglass pointed out -- who else ever did what Lincoln did?

No one. That's who.

Lincoln was a bad ass, if you read all his speeches, and know context.  

Why is it, every dumb ass who trashes Lincoln, claims they read his full speeches, and the Lincoln Douglas debates, but can't tell you anything in those speeches and debates, other than a few carefully  selected quotes?

And why is it, that many dumb ass "teacher" who likes to piss on Lincoln for supposedly not being against slavery, can't even tell you why LIncoln got back into politics, and what was going on in Kansas at the time? 

Yes, Kansas matters that much.  Frederick Douglass knew that - too bad you don't know what Frederick Douglass knew.

No one else spoke as powerfully as Lincoln, when and where he did.

Did you know that? 

Lincoln was radical for what he said, when he said it, who he said it to.   

Did you know - yes or no -- that other abolitionist did not talk like he did -- in Quincy, or Alton.  Garrison did not go to Alton and speak like Lincoln. Did you know that?

Even Frederick Douglass did not go where Lincoln did, and when, and kick ass.   

Only John Brown had more balls than Lincoln -- but John Brown's way got him hung, did you ever notice that?

Yeah, Lincoln could have spoken stupidly, and told the crowds more bluntly that blacks were equal, and that if he could, he would kick slavery in the ass till it was dead.

But Lincoln was smarter than that.  Lincoln bided  his time, kicked slavery to death because he bided his time.  

Guess who knew that?  Frederick Douglas knew that.

Guess who doesn't know that?  You don't, and very likely, your history teacher doesn't either. 

Lincoln's full speeches  are far different than the edited quotes.   People are so stupid about this -- they take a quote here or there, ignore the full speech cause, and they claim Lincoln was some racist.

Did you know that, or not?

Lincoln did parse words -- yes. But stupid people should learn his full speeches, not the edited out of context quotes shoved up their asses.   That is, if you want to know what was actually going on.


"Mr Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers" -- Stephen A Douglas.

" Lincoln is obsessed with equality for the Nigger" -- Stephen A  Douglas.


The way Lincoln haters today trash him, is exactly the opposite of how Lincoln haters at the time trashed him.

Newspapers made blacks look retarded -- then made fun of Lincoln for saying they were the "equal of any white man"  -- which he did, over and over.

That's right -- Lincoln said, over and over, blacks are the equal of any white man.   But you have to read his full speeches for that.

Every debate -- every one -- Douglas bought up Lincoln's obsession with equality.  He ranted about Lincoln being a radical, obsessed with equality.   But you are told Lincoln didn't really give a shit. Some really stupid people think Lincoln used slavery to get ahead politically. God people are stupid, Lincoln LOST his Senate race because of it, and would have lost Presidency by a landslide, if the candidates were not so split.

Lincoln had to be very careful what he said, or he would be lucky to get 20% of the vote.   Most whites wouldn't piss on a black person if they were on fire -- and Lincoln was trying to win an election. 

Was Lincoln seen with a white woman and Frederick Douglass in a carriage?  Of course, Lincoln never met Douglass till later.   But to get the crowd to hate Lincoln,  but Douglas won his race for Senate, because he painted LIncoln as a  "Nigger lover".

You didn't know that -- so don't claim you did.

Do you know who David Rice Atchison is? No, you don't. 

He is the guy that got Lincoln back in politics, in 1854.   Guess who knew that?  Douglass did.   Guess who didn't know that -- you didn't.  

Hell no. 

Did you know who wanted Lincoln to obey the Southern Ultimatums?  Stephen A Douglas.

Did you know that? No.

Guess who knew?  Frederick Douglass knew.

When Lincoln spoke, he was brilliant,  he got his point across. He changed people's minds.  And he did that, by seeming to agree, then kicking the hell out of that prejudice. 

Yeah, Lincoln could have gone to Boston and Maine to give speeches to folks who already agreed with him.  Like Garrison did.

Guess what -- Garrison got paid to go speak at places that already agreed with him.

Too complicated? Need time?   Garrison's slavery speeches got radical -- AFTER he got paid to speak. 

Lincoln was speaking in places where many folks hated, detested abolitionist. 

Did you know that? Hell no.

In fact, Southern scum on Supreme Court said blacks were not human beings, but "so inferior" they were not persons.  That was the law of the land by 1858. Did you know that even?

Hell no.  Hell no you didn't know.   All kinds of shit you didn't know.


Actually, you gotta be some kind of stupid, to think Lincoln used equality for blacks, to get white support. 


Nothing could be further from the truth.Lincoln was risking his life to speak so forcefully for equality -- and he was killed hours after he spoke for voting equality for blacks.

Oh - -but your teacher, or whoever trashed Lincoln "forgot" to mention that


Here is a clue -- Southern leaders, before the Civil War, spoke of killing the slaves, if they had to free them.

Did you know that?  HELL NO.   

Guess who knew that?  Lincoln. Guess who else?   Douglass knew.

Southern leaders said they would have to kill the slaves -- "with our own hands"  if they ever freed them.

Foner also said Dred Scott decision was "a narrow ruling".

That takes a special kinda stupid.

Actually Dred Scott specifically found blacks were "so inferior" they were not human beings, but "inferior beings"  and then ordered (yes ordered) blacks to be treated as property, not humans.

Seriously, did Foner ever bother to read the Dred Scott decision?

Davis used that decision to justify killings in Kansas, for years before the Civil War.  Did Foner bother to read Davis own justification for killings in KS, based on Dred Scott decision? WTF. Really, WTF.



You only know what you are told.

If you just went by what Lincoln did and said, however,  you would know

Some blame Lincoln for "speaking for the Union". Yes, he did, and rightly so. But he also -- and for years --spoken and acted for equality

And he was hated for it.  His enemies taunted Lincoln for being a "Nigger Lover" and even "Nigger Worshiper". 

You didn't know that, did you? Douglass knew that.

Remember -- that LONG BEFORE he spoke a word about union -- Lincoln was already kicking ass sideways. 

Every dumb ass today blames Lincoln for speaking about the Union, as if they just discovered a lost planet.

Hello dumb ass, YES, he spoke about Union.  And he had to -- most people in the North would not piss on a black person to put out a fire.

But even before that, before he ever spoke about Union, Lincoln spoke like no one else - about equality.  



Yes, Lincoln spoke about Union --  no kidding. 

But before that, before Lincoln said one God damn word about Union, he said many things about ending slavery - especially stopping slavery from spreading.

And Lincoln was hated for it.

BEFORE -- BEFORE   -- Lincoln spoke about Union, Lincoln's enemies attacked him for his obsession with equality for blacks.

Oh you didn't know that? Guess who knew that? Frederick  Douglass.

NOTHING shows the power of lies, liars, and selective editing, quite like those who trash Lincoln.

According to Frederick Douglas, no one spoke as powerfully, and did as much against slavery and for equality under the law, as Lincoln. And Douglass worked with, and for, the biggest abolitionist speaker of the time.

But Lincoln spoke to people who would not piss on a black person if they were on fire.  Garrison and others (who were paid to speak) spoke to people in Maine and to crowds who already were against slavery.

Too complicated?   No one told you that, did they?  No one got in front of the crowds Lincoln did, and spoke so powerfully, as LIncoln did.  

Guess who knew that?  You sure didn't. Nor did your teacher tell you.

But Douglass knew.

"We take Lincoln's FULL MEASURE"  said Douglass. Most people today learn about Lincoln from bullshit text books, or worse, books that trash Lincoln.

Guess what Douglass knew?  Douglass knew what LIncoln was up against.  Douglass knew the scum sucking slavers -- but Douglass also knew the devious lying bastards in the North, who tried to, and eventually did, kill Lincoln for being for equality.

Yes, you can take a few words, or even a few sentences -- but read the ENTIRE speeches, and know what he was up against.  No one -- NO ONE -- according to Frederick Douglass  -- was as effective as Lincoln, as powerful, as radical, as swift.

That's what Douglass said -- maybe he knew something?


Douglass knew Lincoln was called a "nigger lover"  who wanted white women to "sleep with niggers."

Oh you didn't know that? Surprise surprise.

And yes, Lincoln's enemies used the word NIGGER.  Stephen A Douglas was famous for it -- history books and newspapers cleaned up his use of he N word. But he said Nigger. 





Lincoln DID speak about equality for the Negro - over and over and over, long before the Civil War.  

Did you know -- yes or know -- that Lincoln spoke repeatedly and powerfully (and was hated for it) for equality under the law for blacks, BEFORE the Civil War?

Did you know he lost the election in 1858 BECAUSE he spoke so powerfully for equality?

Hell no you don't know that.

No kidding -- you only know what you are told.  Bout time someone told you what Frederick Douglass didn't have to read books to find out.  Especially books 100 years later, that distorted things.

. There can be no neutrals in this war; only patriots and traitors.