Friday, June 10, 2016



 I'm working on getting this information to dot com and into a book.  

Douglas did not just say one time "Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers".  Douglas screamed it -- repeatedly.

In Quincy, as you will see (a city newspaper called for Frederick Douglass's death for speaking against slavery)  Douglas went into his "Nigger rant" per local reporters.  Douglas "Nigger rant"  was common, and part of his dramatic standard speech against Lincoln.

In Charleston, Douglas ran from side to side of the debate stage screaming that LIncoln wants your daughters to sleep with "Niggers".,  Lincoln wants negroes to be with your wife walking down the street, too. Lincoln wants Negroes to be on your juries, he wants them to vote.   He will have white women sleep with and marry "niggers".

This is what Lincoln actually faced -- and it was not just Douglas,  Douglas was wisely - and effectively -- tapping into a field of fear and hate.   Fear of blacks being free -- if slavery would end, or even if slavery did not spread, blacks will be allowed to walk down the street and be with your women.

The survival of the white race- - yes survival of the white race-- depends on men like Lincoln not getting in the White House or in Congress.

And it worked.  Douglas won .






 Most people today are taught a basic mistake regarding the Civil War.  And that is, that the South fought to preserve slavery. Not so.  As they made very very clear-- in War Ultimatums, in speeches, and in actions,  the had to spread slavery into the West, and even into the North,  to preserve the White race.

 Their own war ultimatums, their own documents, their own speeches were clear on this point at the time.  We must SPREAD slavery, or the white race will be overrun by the number of slaves.  We can not remain as we are -- we will be exterminated this way.

We must expand slavery. 



 Just stopping the SPREAD of slavery means we will be burned to death  slowly.







Maybe you should know?

From how some people talk now -- including a few "historians,"  Lincoln's entire idea about slavery is wrapped up in 7 quotes.   

Get those 7 quotes- - ignore everything else.   Lincoln said some things,  ignore the full speeches. Ignore context.  Ignore even that as Lincoln said or wrote those 7 things, Lincoln was kicking slavery in the ass.

Also the "historians" do not even mention the South's own war ultimatums.   When you understand the South was -- at the time Lincoln wrote or said those 7 things, was killing and boasting of it, boasting they were at war to spread slavery.



Most people in the North "would not walk across the street to piss on a slave"  much less to fight to free slaves.   As Douglas proved repeatedly -- pump up hate and fear of free blacks, and you can control elections.  Lincoln lost repeatedly -- and only beat Douglas once, when by luck three pro-spread of slavery candidate ran against Lincoln at one time.   Douglas would have won the White House, using the same techniques as before, but in 1860 he had to split the "pro spread of slavery" vote three ways.   

Even during most of the Civil War, as Lincoln well knew, people in the North were often as prejudiced against "perfect equality" as those in the South.  Lincoln had to - and so he did -- several times appeal to UNION.  


Lincoln's full speeches do not matter, including the speeches where he said slave owners deserve to be kicked to death.  They "forget" to mention those kinds of speeches.

They don't mention Lincoln's "Niggerism" from 1846, 1847-1848.   Lincoln actually stood up to President Polk and called the Mexican War for what is was -- a war for the South to double the size of slavery states.    Even Southern leader Henry Clay agreed with Lincoln --indeed,  Clay was more forceful.   Slave power, with the help of President Polk, doubled the size of slavery territory, and intended to so so, by attacking Mexico. 

Lincoln was hated -- from that day on -- by many in the North, including his former home town of Salem.   Lincoln's history was well known they claimed--Lincoln had been for "Niggerism" for over a decade by 1858.  And nany  trashed Lincoln endlessly for it, in every political race, and as President. 

Lincoln tried 40 times -- remember this -- 40 times -- to stop the spread of slavery into the land the US just stole by the Mexican War. Of course, the people who provoked the war and sent killers to Mexico were not about to let Lincoln stop the spread of slavery there -- that is why they attacked in the first place.

Steven A Douglas repeatedly trashed Lincoln -- as obsessed with equality for "Niggers"  using these very facts -- Lincolns opposition to the Mexican War, and Lincoln standing up to the President in Congress and trying to stop it.

Then Lincoln tried to end slavery in the District of Columbia.  A fact well known to Lincoln's enemies, including Douglas,  but for some reason, hardly mentioned by those trash Lincoln now. 

When you get all the facts, and Lincoln's full speeches, it's a drastically different set of facts that you are led to believe by a few out of context quotes.


Expand slavery  -- or we will be exterminated. The white race will be "exterminated".  In speeches, in books, and in official documents, this meme was front and center.

We will be exterminated.

We will be burned slowly to death.

Your daughters will sleep with Niggers.

Over and over.

And over.




Just stopping the SPREAD of slavery will burn us to death slowly, and doom the white woman to equality with the black man. 

Slavery was "of GOD"  and necessary for the protection of white women.

Lincoln was guilty of "Niggerism"  "Negro Worship"  and wanting your daughters to sleep with Negroes.  

Do you want your daughters to sleep with "Niggers"  Stephen A Douglas would ask the crowd?

Then Lincoln had to stand up and answer.


Just stopping the SPREAD of slavery will doom the white race.   So said Southern leaders loudly and proudly and violently as humanly possible.

Yet we do not teach this - even college "history" professors seem completely unaware of this basic and hateful truth. Southern leaders made it quite clear. Typically we act as if the South wanted to "Keep slavery".   Oh hell no. 

And they made it very clear -- we will spread slavery for the survival of the white race.  So black men are kept in slavery where they belong -- away from white women. 


Where did the public get such hatred? Such fear of the black males?   Not from experience -- blacks were essentially in jail in the entire South, and hardly visible in the North.

Taking our white women.... the real issue leading up to the US Civil War.   Freeing the black man means he will walk down the street with white women,  he will sleep with  and marry with "Niggers"  said not just Stephen A Douglas, but most politicians. 

No one -- remember this - no politician running for office dared say "So what? Let the white woman choose who she sleeps with".   That would be political suicide, and maybe get you killed. 

The hate and fear demagogues used race to get attention, to get power. To win elections. We deal with those hate and fear mongers to this day because the hate and fear did not end or even slow down, at the end of the Civil War. 

Trashing Lincoln for wanting your daughters to "sleep  with Negroes"  worked politically.  But it also led to Civil War.

   North and South, anyone who was against the spread of slavery were accused of wanting "white women to sleep with Niggers"  or "race mixing".

A white man seen with a white woman when that woman sat next to a black man could get you killed in the 1850's.

Politicians North and South famed the flames of hatred and fear-  making very sure the public heard that blacks will take our women.  Not sorta, not kinda.  We have completely white washed this ugly and violent truth.  

 Douglass said Lincoln was "radical, zealous, swift and determined" for equality.

Gee- - what a dumb ass  Frederick Douglass was. He just needed to talk to a few high school history teachers of today and learn some Lincoln quotes.

Yeah those quotes -- about 8 of them.   Yes, Lincoln spoke more than 2 million words, over 2000 speeches.  No need to see the full speeches. No need to learn Lincoln's actions. 

Douglass wasted his damn time knowing Lincoln;s full speeches and his action so well, right? 

But maybe -- just maybe -- Douglass knew Lincoln by more than a few cherry picked quotes?

Naaaaa  -- Douglass had to be a dumb ass.  Screw it.  Those cherry picked quotes say it all. 

Lincoln was painted as not only a "Nigger Worshipper"   -- not only as "obsessed with Nigger equality' -- in the South crowds were whipped into a frenzy of anger and fear.   Lincoln will destroy the White Race.

These weren't lunatics at a bar saying this. This was the Secretary of State of the CSA, and the Vice President.

In the North, Lincoln was yelled at -- to his face -- like Obama was called "liar"   US Senator Douglas screamed repeatedly -- dramatically,  "Mr Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers".

Not once, not twice, not five times.  Douglas "Nigger rant" was part of the Lincoln Douglas debates.  You should have been told -- you were not.  It was the most important part.   A Bloomington paper said at the time that below Bloomington, four out of five voters went for Douglas because of Lincoln being for "Niggers".

It worked. Douglas (Stephen A) knew how to get votes -- make Lincoln seem as if he wants  your daughters to sleep with blacks. 



North and South, millions of whites were afraid of black men taking their women. Why?  Because that was the basic way pro-slavery folks pushed slavery further and further.

If we can not spread slavery (yes, spread it) the white race will be exterminated.  "EXPAND OR PERISH".

This seems bizaare to anyone who never heard it, but no one alive was surprised in the least. This was as basic as it got.  And Southern leaders shouted it -- and things like this.   If anyone was against the spread of slavery, there were against GOD and against the survival of the white race.

This ugly truth is simply not taught -yet without knowing this ugly truth, you can not possibly understand US history at the time -- and you can't understand Lincoln Douglas debates, Lincoln, the Kansas Act, the Missouri Compromise, the Dred Scott decision, or any other aspect of US history from 1840-1866.


Southern leaders screamed it FOR A REASON.

Just like Stephen A Douglas screamed it for a reason.  It worked. It got the job done. It built up the hate and fear. It gave the most powerful reason possible for spreading slavery.  Yes, some in the South glorified slavery as Godly and biblical -- but they also pushed the hate and fear on the basis of white survival, white superiority.

Do you want "Niggers"  walking down the street near your wife?

Do you want them marrying your daughter?   That is the fate that awaits us --that is what will happen, Douglas and others said, repeatedly.

And Douglas said it repeatedly -- it does not matter if your history teacher never mentioned it, Douglas sure as hell did.  And it was the emotional knife of his campaign.  


  It is not mentioned now, it was screamed about by the top leaders of the day, at the time.

You heard nothing of it, people alive then heard all about it.

In fact, in Quincy, local newspapers called for the  DEATH of Frederick Douglas for even speaking against slavery in Kansas.  It was a law  in Kansas and most of the South that no one could speak publically against slavery (another thing you are not told).  

But Frederick Douglas did go to Kansas and there spoke against slavery.

Quincy Illinois papers -- called for his death.

Let me repeat that -- Quincy Illinois papers called for his death.

See for yourself.

Quincy is one of the cities where Douglas (Stephen A Douglas) went into his "Nigger rant" about Lincoln's obsession with equality, about how Lincoln wanted your daughters to sleep with "Niggers".

A very effective way to beat Lincoln -- because Douglas did beat Lincoln in that race.  And Douglas won because he was able to paint Lincoln and  radical and obsessed for "Nigger equality"



Lincoln tried hundreds of times to draw the distinction - he did not want a black woman for a wife or a slave.  Perhaps, he said, she is not my equal.  She may not be equal in skin color , she may not be equal in height.   But in her natural right to eat the bread she made with her own hands she IS my equal and the equal of any man.

Every time, Lincoln was bombarded with accusations he wanted your daughters to sleep with "Niggers",

Every time.  In every Lincoln Douglas debates, every time.

Even not in a debate, Lincoln had to answer to that wide spread hate and fear of black males -- fear and hate pumped up by politicians like Douglas, Jeff Davis,  and just about every Southern politician from 182-165

 Lincoln will destroy us, burn the white race to death slowly -- just by being against the spread of slavery.

Governor Brown of Georgia -- wrote an amazing open letter to the public, telling them if we let Lincoln win, our children will be on the same level as the Negro, and their lives will be torture.   

The governor of Florida said the same essential thing -- officially. 
IF we can not spread  -- spread - slavery it will be like "burning us slowly to death"  because our children will be with blacks.   

Burning us slowly to death.  That is what people were told.

Our daughters. 

 Southern politicians knew what the men cared about -- their daughters.  Can you get any more gut wrenching? YOUR DAUGHTERS will sleep with Niggers.  No beating around the bush - Douglas screamed it.

I can't help it if you did not know. Not my fault. 

I can't help if it's ugly -- I did not do that.

I am just the guy that found all kinds of this in original documents, speeches, letters, newspapers at the time, and I wondered?  Why the hell are we not told about this?


Stephen A Douglas, as you will see, used the "Nigger rant" over and over. He didn't always use the "N -word"  but he always went for the throat.  As you will see -- Douglas sat by laughing as fellow and elderly Senator Charles Sumner was beaten almost to death on the floor of the US Senate.

Douglas used this approach -- as his basic approach. You can see that if you read his FULL speeches.  He went into great detail about it. Mr Lincoln will give you black juries, he will give you black voters, he will have black ( or Nigger, whatever he felt like) men walk with your white wife on the side walk.

And Lincoln was "obsessed" with "Nigger rights.  


It got even worse. Lincoln was going to star a war -- yes a war -- just by saying slavery or the Union had to end.  "Listen to Mr Lincoln"  -- Lincoln was guilty of "treason"  because Lincoln refuses to go along with  United States Supreme Court.

"Our highest tribunal in the land"  Douglas would say with the utmost power in his voice "had decided the issue---blacks are not equal to white people, and the Declaration of Independence can not apply to blacks, per the Dred Scott decision",  (Paraphrased).  

But Mr. Lincoln stands before you and says any Nigger is equal to any white man, any white woman.   Is that what you want?  Do you want blacks on your juries?  Do you want blacks to vote?

:Mr Lincoln is preaching revolution" 


That is on top of the death to whites -- for "Nigger revolts".

Blacks already outnumbered whites in South Carolina. 

Slaver owners got rich by making more slaves.  But hey also drove out whites (many whites left the South, because they could not compete with free labor).  The white race birth rate was no match to forced birth for slaves.

HAITI  1804 blacks were able to revolt -- and they did kill most of the whites (the whites had been brutal to them) in Haiti.   

That is the fate that awaits us -- said Southern leaders, pumping up hate to the level of survival of white womanhood, and white man in control.

Over and over Douglas pushed Lincoln on this -- and Lincoln had to respond. Over and over Lincoln gave profound answers -- and changed American in those answers.

But you can, if you like -- just take edited portions of his answers.  And you can make him seen any way you desire.

But get his full speeches, in context, and you will see how stunning and radical Lincoln was .  He was not for "perfect equality" -- because to admit that would doom any chance for anyone to stop the spread of slavery.   He as for equality of the races under the law. For everyone to have life, liberty and persuit of happiness.  No person should be sold, no person should be inferior, no person should be property.

Now in 1858 and 1860 -- the politicians to pump up hatred for Lincoln and the North, because of the "Kansas" question and the spread of slavery that doubled, and doubled again, the size of slavery states and territories. 

Slavery was spreading -- and because of Kansas Act and Dred Scott, there was no way to stop it, Lincoln pointed out.

But politicians in  South said they needed the spread of slavery or they would be exterminated.

Almost on one in the South fought because they loved slavery - but the politicians made sure the men became hateful and fearful enough they would fight to keep slavery going and spreading for white survival, and white superiority in all matters. 


Remember this -- not to keep slavery going where it was.  Southern leaders were very clear.....  we must SPREAD slavery or we will be exterminated.
of "Niggers" -- he wanted to end slavery, by ending the spread of it first. Not because he was any less anti -slavery. But Lincoln was NOT stupid.  Most people even in the North did not care much to end slavery in the South.  Most people were afraid Douglas and others were right -- "Niggers" would take white women. "Niggers" would walk down the street with your wife.

Niggers would be on juries.

So when Lincoln spoke -- remember this.  He was radical as hell -- yes at times he had to parse words. But read his full speeches. Amazing and powerful -- FOR EQUALITY UNDER THE LAW.

 We teach none of this now -- it's too ugly, perhaps. Certainly Southern schools are not about to let children learn the hatred and fear of black males -- and House Southern leaders were killing to spread slavery and boasting of it. 

Politicians pumped up that fear and hate, to fever pitch.

And it worked. Lincoln lost that election.

And the hate and fear got worse, and led directly to the Civil War.  South was already killing, already torturing, already making it clear they would keep killing. 

The South was already at war. Not sorta, not kinda, not in a way. They were already at war, and already boasting about being at war.  
Don't blame me you didn't know.  Not my fault. 



SPREAD -- SPREAD slavery.  We must spread slavery or we will be exterminated.  This was a common refrain, in nearly every speech.  Slavery had to spread not for the sake of slavery, but for protection of the white race.

When Jefferson Davis issued his own offical Address to the People of the Free States -- do you know what he said?  We must enslave all blacks, North and South, for "the protection of our (white) people.

That's Jeff Davis -- himself -- explaining officially why he just ordered all blacks re-enslaved forever -- in perpetuity, for the safety of the white race.  Not sorta, not kinda, not in a way,

That is what he said. 

This was Jeff Davis officially explaining things to the North.

He had to re-enslave all blacks, and will enslave them in the North too, for our protection.   He claims he makes this clear now "so there will be no misunderstanding in the future".

Perpetual slavery - - for the protection of the white race.

To just keep slavery where it was was fatal to the white race.

No one ever told you that --  but politicians and editors told Southern folks that for at least 10 years, and told them with increasing fear and hate as time went on.

This was common knowledge then.  Southern leaders were proud of it, loud about it.  It was ubiquitous, it was part of the hate and fear mongering.  Not just part -- but the "BIG ISSUE"  on which everything depended. 

We must spread slavery -- or we will be exterminated.

Sounds preposterous now -- but that is what Southern folks were told, over, and over and over.

 Lincoln and the Southern leaders, if they came back today, would be dumbfounded to learn this most basic thing is essentially ignored now.  Lincoln made it very clear, Southern leaders made it very clear.   The SPREAD of slavery was necessary for survival of white race. 

Lincoln said the SPREAD of slavery was a cancer.  So when you hear such crap as "Lincoln only cared about the spread of slavery"    that's utter nonsense. Lincoln focused on stopping the spread of cancer, just like a cancer surgeon will focus on stopping the spread.  But Lincoln knew stopping that spread would end slavery over time.   The South must spread slavery for slavery to survive, for the exact reasons Southern leaders said. 

Southern leaders did not disagree with Lincoln on this -- quite the contrary.   When Lincoln said slavery must die or Union die, the South AGREED.  Not sorta, not kinda, not in a way. That is how radical Lincoln was.  Yes, he spoke about Union -- no kidding.  Then Lincoln kicked slavery in the ass. 

It was not a side issue. It was not trivial or mentioned only occasionally.  The white race will be exterminated.  EXTERMINATED.

Crowds jeered.  Crowds cheered the speakers who pumped up hate and fear of Lincoln (and anyone against slavery)  because just ending the spread of slavery would destroy our race.

It's an ugly truth - but it's a basic truth. And if you don't know that, you sure as hell can't know the history of US Civil War, what led to it, and how extremism on "Niggerism"  by men like Douglas and Toombs pumped up the fear and hate.

The point is, I get this information from original sources.  I was as surprised to learn many of these things as you might be.  If anything I learned almost the opposite about Lincoln.  I was told Lincoln was "nothing special" about slavery (Foner).   I was told Lincoln "evolved"  about slavery and "used slavery for political gain". 

Used slavery for political gain?  WTF? How stupid can you be?

Political gain?

 When you learn the full story you realize -- Lincoln was lucky he did not get a bullet to the brain sooner. Being for equality of "Niggers" was dangerous - even in the North, because "equality" meant, according to political leaders, that white women would sleep with black men.

Yet -- that's equality -- equality as screamed loudly and proudly by Stephen A Douglas, and many others.  Equality for "Niggers"  would mean your daughters will "Sleep with Niggers".   Douglas did not hold back, he shouted this. He shouted it repeatedly.  Douglas made a very clear picture of this. Your daughters will sleep with Niggers. Your children will go to school with them.

Is that what you want?

Because of this political ploy -- this hate mongering --others did get bullets to the brain, others  did get hung, burned and drowned, even in Northern states, for being too blunt, too radical for equality, or even too radical for ending the spread of slavery.

We act as if in the North, most people were immune from hate and fear mongering about  "Niggers" . Oh hell no.  In the South it was a crime to write publically or speak publicly against slavery. 

In the North -- it was politically smart to scream about "Niggerism" in certain sections.  Illinois was one such place.   At very least, you better be very careful what you said about "Niggers" and white women.   The fear and hate was extreme, largely because that fear and hate was pumped up by politicians.

Lincoln handled the charge of "Niggerism"  enough not to  get shot -- remember, others were shot. But Lincoln could not find the right words to win any election head to head. Did you know that?  When race and slavery was the issue, Lincoln never won a head to head race. Douglas won.  Lincoln lost time and again -- Douglas pained him as "radical for the Nigger".

It's about time you learned this very basic and ugly truth. Lincoln only won POTUS in 1860 because it was a four way race.  Lincoln wont the most votes -- yes. He won more popular votes than anyone else, even though nine  Southern states did not allow him on ballot. 

But if Douglas ran against Lincoln alone in 1860, he almost certainly would have won, especially because Southern states refused Lincoln a place on the ballot.   



Others might have taken Lincoln's place-- before Lincoln.  We will never know.  If such men existed --they may have been killed sooner.   Lincoln was radical as hell for the time, as it was.  Any more radical in his rhetoric,  and it's silly to think he could win any federal office in Illinois.    But that's conjecture. Let's get to facts. 




It was odd for me to learn -- entirely from original sources, original newspapers, original books from that period, original speeches,  that  the extreme hatred of Lincoln was about his "Niggerism".   His support of "Nigger Rights".

I had heard for decades that Lincoln was "moderate" or even uncaring about slavery and blacks.  I got that from Pulitizer Prize winning authoers, like Foner.  Foner said Lincoln was "nothing special" about race, and  "came late to the table"  about equality.

Oh really?  Well turns out, Southern leaders and Stephen Douglas laid out time after time how "radical" Lincoln was for the "Nigger",  from 1847 on.   Lincoln was -- if you believe Lincoln's Illinois enemies,  so radical for "Niggers"  that to support Linclon was to support the death of the white race.

WTF?   No one told me that.  I found it myself -- in original documents at the time.  Newspapers at the time -- even in the NORTH  were furious at Lincoln for "Niggerism".



One example. Quincy Illinois papers (I grew up there) called for Frederick Douglass to be hung -- hung-- for speaking against slavery.   Quincy is where Lincoln had to debate.   See these newpaper clips I found -- you won't see them anywhere else. Foner or no one else seem remotely concerned about what Lincoln actually faced --even in IL.   

 Those who hated Lincoln and attacked him for "Niggerism" or for causing the death of the white race, were so loud and proud of it at the time, that unless they rented billboard space 150 years in advance, they could not have done more to get his information passed down through time.   They were that loud, and that proud, and that clear of it, at the time. 

Yet to a large extent, as a practical matter, we are told virtually nothing of this. And certainly we are not told about it in the way they boasted of it at the time. 

For every Southern leader who defended slavery -- ten or twenty pumped up the fear that Lincoln would "allow Niggers" the freedom to be with whites socially. That Lincoln (and others) were going to EXTERMINATE THE WHITE RACE.

Crowds cheered the hate and fear pumped up about whites being exterminated.   Douglas (Stephen A) plugged into this hate meme.  His crowds cheered - - and even yelled back "Down with Niggers"  according to papers at the time.

This was not an occasional outburst by some extremist.

This was the central outburst repeated hundreds of thousands of times. 


EARLY 1850

I found things - - like Southern newspapers in early part of the the 1850s saying they would force California to be a slave state, even though it was already a free state .

They had to be kidding, right?  But that was an isolated case, some newspaper editor, big deal.  There are always extremist around.  No one was seriously about that.

No, they were not kidding. And as politicians, North and South, learned how to pump up the hate and fear to get political power,  the more extreme the politicians were.  They essentially had to outdo other politicians to get attention.  In the South, you could be called a "Nigger Worshipper"  or "abolitionist"  if you were simply not extreme enough to spread slavery.



The more papers I read - the more I saw things like actual War Ultimatums.  Or speeches boasting at the time, by Southern leaders that they were ALREADY killing to spread slavery, and their boasts were verified -- indeed, they were killing to spread slavery exactly as they claimed at the time.

Not things made up later to make them look insane.

But things at the time Southern leaders said to boast, to get power, to get attention.  And it worked. US Senator Atchison claimed he and his men would  endlessly kill to spread slavery to all of the US West, including taking free states, like Kansas, California, and Oregon by force, and making those slave states.

Atchison would see Kansas burn in hell rather than let it be a free state, Atchison said.  He was proud of that.  Jeff Davis named him, officially, General of Law and Order in Kansas.

Atchison was not "just another" US Senator.

Atchison was the guy who got Stephen A Douglas to pass the Kansas Act. Then Atchison, Jefferson Davis, and Stephen A Douglas personally took the Kansas Act to President Pierce to get him to sign it as soon as humanly possible.

Why?  So no one else would get to Pierce first. Pierce Douglas and Jefferson Davis for the next three years would play Pierce for a fool for the next four years.

And it almost worked.


That can NOT be right!  Southern leaders boasted ift?

Yes, they did, and much more.

Douglas repeatedly said Lincoln "wants your daughters" to sleep with "Niggers."   Douglas actually screamed it, and ran side to side of the debate platform screaming it.

Let me repeat that. Douglas screamed to the crowd that Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep "with Niggers".

And he did it for a reason.  See if you can guess what that reason might be?


 At the time, Bloomington newspaper wrote that four out of five Douglas supporters voted for Douglas because of Lincoln's support of "Nigger rights"


What were the "Nigger Rights"  Lincoln was for?

Douglas told the crowds, for example ---

Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with "Niggers".  He WANTS your daughters to sleep with "Niggers"

Lincoln WANTS that to happen.

Lincoln wants blacks to walk down the sidewalk with your wife.

Lincoln wants blacks  on juries

Lincoln wants black judges.

Lincoln wants black children to sit with white children in schools.

50% of Lincoln's efforts 

People today simply have no concept how dangerous it was to be for "white women to sleep with Niggers" .   Virtually no one in the USA could win any election anywhere by being for "white women sleeping with Niggers".

Which is exactly why Douglas (and others) went after that raw nerve.  Lincoln's speeches today - misquoted -- seem to place Lincoln as a racists, because Lincoln is reacting to the charge that he wants "Niggers"  to sleep with your daughter.

Douglas shouted that word repeatedly and effectively -- and it worked. Douglas won. 

Let me repeat that, Douglas won because of it.


You would think able "historians" would at least mention this.  For the most part, they have run away from it.  Either they do not even mention it, or avoid explaining just how dangerous it was-- not just politically. People were killed for being "abolitionist"  during Lincoln's life time. 

Even in Illinois people were killed for publishing anti-slavery newspapers.  Violence always -- always -- was the result to anyone who spoke against slavery.  It's a shame we don't teach what a bad ass Lincoln was -- how Lincoln went to places where it was illegal to speak against slavery.  You did not know that, did you?

See where Lincoln went, when, and why - and it was illegal to speak against slavery there.  

It was not illegal to speak against slavery in Illinois, but it was dangerous even there. And political suicide -- death to your political life -- to be for "Niggers" sleeping with your daughters.

Stephen Douglas was very much trying to get Lincoln to commit political suicide in every Lincoln Douglas debate.  Make Lincoln say "Niggers"  should be able to marry white women (it was against the law) and Lincoln would not even get his wife's vote, if she could vote. 

Over, and over, and over --Douglas pushed "Niggers will marry your daughters -- Lincoln wants that" into Lincoln's face.  

He did not just say it, and go on. Douglas screamed this. Douglas, according to Quincy papers,  went into a "Nigger rant" and ran around yelling it. In Charleston, same thing, Douglas ran around, side to side on the stage, screaming about "Niggers' sleeping with your daughter.

Why don't you know this?  No one told you. 

Entire books on the Lincoln Douglas debates-- not a mention of this basic dilemma and danger Lincoln faced.  




And Lincoln was hated by some -- including former friends -- for this very reason for over a decade.  Not just from 1854 or 1856 or 1860 on 

Douglas was just one such former friend that stabbed Lincoln in the back dozens of times each speech 

Douglas was more virulent when Lincoln was not on the stage,  but not by much.   Lincoln could handle Douglas in person, by humor, by reading Douglas's past statements, and by showing basic facts.


 Lincoln's "Niggerism"  was the emotional issue of the debates. Slavery was nearly a side issue to "Nigger equality".   White women sleeping with "Niggers"   -Douglas would go to that basic and that blunt of imagery .  Do you want your daughters to sleep with "Niggers"?   Lincoln is your man.

If not -- vote for me, is essentially what Douglas said.

And the message worked. 

It's like Douglas (and many others) threw a giant rock onto Lincoln, and buried Lincoln in a deep pit.  Then Lincoln had to dig out of that pit, even to give his views on slavery.


First Lincoln had to dig and dig. 

Lincoln explained he was not for "perfect equality" -- meaning white women sleeping with "Niggers"  as Douglas phrased it.  Lincoln dealt with this for long parts of each debate.  

Blacks ARE equal to any white man, Lincoln said. Blacks are equal to me, equal to Judge Douglas.  Maybe, Lincoln said, blacks are NOT equal "in certain respects".   They are not equal in color (!)  They may not be equal in intelligence.   But in their natural rights they are equal to me or any white man.

Why do we leave that out of Lincoln's quotes? And explain how dangerous it was for Lincoln.



Even that -- even claiming blacks are (or should be) equal per the Declaration of Independence was "TREASON"  said Douglas. 

Lincoln committed TREASON and preached "Revolution"  simply by saying the Declaration of Independence said all men are equated equal. 


Douglas insisted at great length that the Dred Scott decision ruled the Declaration of Independence can not be for inferior beings.  Blacks are "inferior beings"  and are not persons.   That is what the Dred Scott decision actually said. Inferior beings.  No one told you that did they?  But that is exactly, precisely, what Dred Scott decision ruled--  blacks are "so inferior"  they can not be seen as humans (as persons).  They are property.

Since we don't teach the Dred Scott decision in blunt terms (Douglas sure explained it in blunt terms, and Southern leaders sure explained it in blunt terms) most people today, even history teachers, are functionally stupid about Lincoln, Douglas and Dred Scott.

Douglas used Dred Scott like a hammer to pound Lincoln -- along with Lincoln's "Niggerism"   Douglas punched and stabbed Lincoln on being against the Supreme Court a having "final say"  in this matter.

The Dred Scott court had ruled blacks are not persons, and have no rights under the Constitution. They are -- literally -- property. Nothing more, nothing less.

The Declaration of Independence only applies to human beings -- persons.  How dare Lincoln say blacks have rights!  How dare Lincoln preach "revolution"  in order to let "Niggers" sleep with white women.

You have never been told that, but Douglas explained it repeatedly.  Which is why it's smart to read Douglas's entire speeches.


Anyone against the Supreme Court was a traitor or preached revolution, per Douglas.  Lincoln pointed out clearly Douglas himself had disagreed with Supreme Court decisions, and urged that they be ignored.  Yet Lincoln was NOT for ignoring the Dred Scott decision -- he said we must overturn it or pass a Constitutional Amendment, which he did!  The 13 Amendment was Lincoln's response to Dred Scott.

  Lincoln, Douglas said, was "fermenting WAR"  by just saying blacks are persons, and blacks should have rights under the Declaration of Independence.

Niggerism  was a catch all phrase for anyone who thought or said "Niggers" had rights as human beings, as people.  LIncoln was one such person.

The "Niggerism" was front and center in the entire question of slavery.

SLavery had to grow. Slavery HAD to grow, because if we can not spread slavery  WHTE RACE WILL BE EXTERMINATED.

As Jefferson Davis said officially -- blacks are to put on the "slave status even in the North (yes, even in the North) for the protection of the public.  Whites are simply not safe with blacks around, unless blacks are enslaved.



FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. ______________________________

It was not just Jeff Davis.  It was the common meme -- especially useful to pump up the crowds. Robert Toombs, Secretary of State for the Confederacy, bragged about this for years leading up to the Civil War.

Crowds cheered.   They cheered Stephen A Douglas, and they cheered anyone who could speak powerfully and pump up this kind of  hate and fear.

I can't help it that you were not taught this.   It was very much a reality at the time.

Douglas accused Lincoln of being for "Niggers" marrying your daughters openly and repeatedly.    That will ruin our white race.

How did Lincoln respond? Lincoln said the truth - the miscegenation (race mixing) was in the SOUTH -- a nice way for Lincoln to say slaves were raped in the South, and lighter skinned slaves were still slaves.  No one told you that, either.


That's human nature, by the way. Lincoln knew that, and said that.  He explained how human nature selfishness and greed led to slavery.   Over and over, however, Lincoln showed that slavery was a cancer.   It had to spread -- it had to spread to live.

Slavery as the national cancer. 

One had to go.

One had to live.  Cancer will kill the host, Lincoln said. Either slavery will die or the Union will die.

Did you know what Douglas and the South said about that?  When Lincoln said slavery will die or Union will die, Douglas and the South called that a "declaration of war."

To say slavery must end, or the Union will end, was a 


For those who don't understand just how radical Lincoln was, you only need to see the reaction to what he did and said.

If you don't understand Lincoln's full speeches, and what was going on, and the reaction to Lincoln, you really don't know much about US history, Lincoln, Slavery or the Civil War.  If you have a history degree -- it doesn't matter. You still need to understand context and all the facts. 




Slavery would die, or the Union would die, according to Lincoln. Surprisingly, Southern leaders said the same thing, in their own way.

The specifica mechanism to spread slavery -- Lincoln explained this at least 1000 times in endless speeches.  The mechanism was Kansas Act and Dred Scott decision.  By that mechanism  there was no way to stop slavery from spreading.

Slavery became inevitable -- no way to stop it. Blacks were now not human beings (really, they were not, according to Dred Scott decision) and therefore no state or territory could prevent that property in their states.  Slavery  was now an actual RIGHT, per Dred Scott.  

Ineed, Lincoln was right. That is exactly what happened. First Kansas Act, that was a fraud to spread slavery where it was voted against repeatedly.  Even after Kansas became officially a free state-- Southern leaders issued War Ultimatums that Kansas much be a slave state, by logic of (guess what?)  Dred Scott.

Remember, the South boasted about this "logic"  at the time.  Kansas citizens voted 90 and 95% against slavery, yet Davis and others demanded the spread of slavery there.  And Davis specifically cited Dred Scott decision -- exactly as Lincoln had said.  Not kind the same thing -- exactly the same thing.  Dred Scott according to the South itself made it impossible for Kansas to be a free state, no matter what the people there voted.

Remember -- Kansas citizens rejected slavery by overwhelming vote.  They were accepted into the Union as free state.

Then -- then -- Davis issued War Ultimatums  that Kansas must be a free state.  He made the logic very very very clear.

It was "intolerable"  -- not just sorta wrong, but it was intolerable.

 Davis wrote that the "intolerable grievance"  was keeping slavery out of Kansas.  And he acted upon that view. He sent killers to Kansas.  Never mind that Kansas voted against slavery 95%.  (Davis forgot to mention that fact in his book -- and this came from his book "Rise and Fall") 

The logic was -- as Lincoln had pointed out- - Kansas Act and Dred Scott decision.  Why the hell this amazing overlap of Lincoln and Davis both agreeing of the effect of Dred Scott and Kansas act, I do not know.   Maybe "historians" should read Davis and Lincoln. 

They both explained it very well. 


That is how radical Lincoln was.  Yes, he spoke about Union at times -- no kidding.   To do otherwise at those times would have cost the Union the war -- and worse, cost the nation by allowing the spread of slavery.

After Lincoln spoke about Union -- notice anything?  Then Lincoln kicked slavery in the ass. 


If we let that stand, said Lincoln  "we will be all one thing, or all the other"  few realize that Southern leaders agreed.  

We will be exterminated -- exterminated -- if we do not spread slavery. Lincoln was going to exterminate the white race (really, they said this to cheering crowds)  by stopping the spread of slavery. 

Blacks will out number us -(blacks outnumbers whites in three states at the end of Civil War)   We can  not exist with "Niggers" taking our women.

Southern leaders REGULARLY used this -- over and over.  You are not told this, but that is what happened.   Either we spread slavery, or we are exterminated.   We must create our own country based on slavery, or the white race is exterminated.

 They could not exist together.  One will die.  One will survive.



"Niggers and Lincoln"  was the best emotional -- and effective -- weapon Douglas had.  And he used it not only in every debate, he used it in every speech, one way or another, concerning Lincoln from 1854 on.

Quincy papers called it "Douglas's Nigger Rants". 

Douglas thought this was such an important part of his message, he screamed it -- loud. He actually screamed this to the crowds.  

According to Douglas -- and he said this repeatedly and at great length ---Lincoln was for "Niggers" marrying your daughter, and "Niggers" walkind down the street with your wife.

"Niggers" would vote, "Niggers" would go to school with whites,  and "Niggers would be on juries. The "Niggers" may even be judges in any trial you may endure.

"Nigger judges!"

These charges worked. Remember that.  The charges worked. Douglas won the election.



Quincy papers said Douglas worked himself up to such vehemence that he seem to foam at the mouth. He was the most animated speaker, he ran from side to side of the stage.  He arrived at several debates in his own train and had bands play until he exited his luxury rail car, and cannons -- yes cannons Douglas brought along -- fired off canons, to the roars of his paid supporters.

No one told you that, did they?

And then Douglas put on the big show.  His central message was that Lincoln was radical, obsessed with equality for the Negro (or as he usually said it "Nigger).

This was so important to Douglas that he did it in every Lincoln Douglas debate, to one extreme degree or another.





It was THIS argument by Douglas and hundreds of others, that shaped the country -- that those against the spread of slavery (yes, just being against the SPREAD of slavery was the issue here) were going to have your daughters sleep with "Niggers"  be "with your wife" on the streets, and destroy the white race. 

Yet "historians"  like Foner, McPherson  don't even mention this as  "incident" in any clear way, much less as the basic ploy (effective ploy) by Douglas. So far the only "historian" that dealt with it somewhat candidly, is Allen Guelzo -- more about that, later.



In fact, Douglas tore into Lincoln before the debates even started, telling the crowd he saw Lincoln with Frederick Douglass  together in a carriage that day, and a WHITE WOMAN was with the black  man.   Then  he repeated such things in his portion of the debate.

Unless you know this, unless you know how extreme not just Douglas was on this, but hundreds of others were extreme as well, you can't understand the USA from 1846-1870.





This was not a joke. It was meant to evoke pure hatred of Lincoln. 

Lincoln  had to "tap dance" around these charges -- do we want your daughters to "sleep with Niggers"?

Mr. Lincoln wants your daughter to marry with "Niggers".  Is that what you want -- yelled Douglas to the crowd?

"Down with Niggers" was the reply according to a newspaper in Knoxville Illinois.

Down with "Niggers".

Then Lincoln had to speak.


"Niggers and abolitionist hated in Illinois"

In parts of the North "Abolitionist" and "Niggers" were seen in much the same way.

And parts of Illinois (Illinois was still considered "the West" during this time) were as hateful and fearful of blacks as anyplace in the South.

Lincoln had to get votes there.  He had to debate there. 

Here is something ELSE your "history" teacher never told you-- but should have.   E

Do we want your wife to "be with Niggers" walking down the street?

Every time -- every time --Lincoln spoke from 1854 -- he spent considerable energy, time, and wit, to respond.  The entire GOP platform, the entire debates, the entire country, even the Civil War Itself was based on this issue.  Ending the spread of slavery will destroy the white race,  men like Douglas and Southern leaders told the crowds outright, or by euphemism.

(Important --as you will see, Quincy newspapers called for Frederick Douglass to be hung for speaking against slavery in Kansas) . So when Stephen A Douglas brought this up - as with every insult to Lincoln -Douglas was going for the jugular.

Douglas was going for the kill.  He was not joking. This was not a game.



 Douglas was not about to personally attack anyone.  His hate mongering was all verbal, and he was called the most powerful speaker of that era. 

Other Douglas political enemies WERE attacked, and nearly killed. The most famous?  The beating on the Senate floor of Charles Sumner, US Senator from Massachusetts. Sumner made the mistake of chastising Douglas in public for his use of the term "Nigger"  in the Senate.

Even Southern Senators rarely used the term, but Douglas not only used it after 1854, he added a special cruelty to the term. 

As newspapers reported AT THE TIME  (they all knew of the feud between Douglas and Sumner) Douglas sat feet away from Sumner as he was being beaten repeatedly about the head, defenseless after losing consciousness. 

Douglas had told Sumner the day before that he "should be kicked like a dog".   Then as Sumner was beaten,  Douglas sat just feet away, smiling.  He did not lift a finger to stop the beating.  

See the small man in the back, on the right?

That's Douglas smiling as Sumner is beaten. 

No one every told you any of this.



Douglas was accused (correctly) of pandering to the South over slavery to help him get elected President. But people in his home state voted for him every time against Lincoln, until POTUS, where Douglas was one of three running against Lincoln.  If Lincoln and Douglas ran head to head, Douglas would certainly have won.   The South did not even allow Lincoln on the ballot. 

At the time -- people who knew politics said 4 out of 5 voters went for Stephen A Douglas because of Lincoln's supposed "Niggerism"  and "radical obsession for rights for the Nigger".

 The Press & Tribune estimated that as many as four out of five Douglas supporters located south of Bloomington were in favor of the Little Giant due to the stigma of racial equality that had been attached to the Republicans.

When they wrote  "stigma attached to racial equality"  that's a  punk ass euphemism for "screaming repeatedly to the crowds that Lincoln wanted your daughters to sleep with Niggers".

It would help if  "history" teachers stopped the bullshit, and spoke candidly about what happened.  But they don't.  The tendency is towards bullshit.


Douglas knew exactly what pumped up the crowds.  And if you read his full speeches they are stunning in length and specific "rants" about "Niggers" sleeping with white women, about "Niggers" being on juries,  going to school with whites, and the most scary of all, perhaps - blacks voting.

That's the kind of "equality" Lincoln wants, Douglas said. Is that what you want for your future?

No one told you that -- ever - did they.

It would be over 100 years till blacks got voting rights.  And it is not perfect now-- voter suppression is aimed, as courts have found, disportionately, at blacks. 

Lincoln got a bullet in the brain less than 24 hours after he spoke for voting rights for blacks.   Boothe heard Lincoln's speech about voting rights, and changed his plan from kidnap to kill.

That's how terrified and  hateful people were at the time about voting rights for blacks.

Lincoln mentioned it-- and died within 24 hours.

Maybe it's time you knew  that, and much else. 




We are not taught any of this.

More than slavery  -- Northern papers hated (see below) Lincoln for his "Niggerism".   Over and over and over -- for years, anyone who dared speak against the SPREAD of slavery was hit with the same response -- you are for "Nigger"  rights.  You are for black men walking down the street with white women.  Marrying white women.  Sleeping with white women.

In the South, it was even worse. Lincoln was accused of "exterminating the white  race"  by being for "Nigger" freedom.  

So before you go yapping that Lincoln was not "really" for equality, take a minute and learn what the hell that meant at the time.

Remember Lincoln lost  his life after speaking too candidly about voting rights for blacks.  Lincoln words about those rights was very cautious -- voting rights for "some" blacks who were "educated". 

Even today those who trash Lincoln claim that proves Lincoln did not care about rights for blacks.  They "forget" to mention he was dead within 24 hours or saying those "radical" things about voting rights for " Niggers". 

See- - get all the facts.  Those lying bastards and dumb asses who trash Lincoln wisely do not tell you the full facts.  They can't.  The full facts destroy their bullshit.  That's just a candid way of speaking. 

Maybe it's time we learned things in candid no bullshit way.  Leave out basic facts, and you can easily paint Lincoln as weak,or even uncaring about slavery. 


Oddly -- as you will see --"historians" have essentially dared not to whisper it, except for one who mentioned it, but did not make a "big deal" about it.

Yet - Lincoln and "Niggers" was the BFD of the campaign, as you will see.  As  basic (nothing was more basic) as anything else you can think of.

Douglas did not run from side to side of the stage screaming anything else. 

Southern leaders claimed Lincoln would destroy the white race because he would have their daughters "be with Niggers".   

Social equality with "Niggers" would come from ending slavery.  And social equality equalled  death to the white race.

That was the message. Delivered over and over. And if you don't understand that (your history teacher mostly likely has no clue) you don't understand Lincoln, US history during 1850's, nor the US Civil War. 
It's that important.


How did Frederick Douglass get so stupid?

He said Lincoln was "radical, swift, zealous, and determined"  to end slavery. 

That fool Douglass What the hell did he know?  Radical for equality?  Determined? Swift?   That's a joke, right?

Did Douglass not know about the letter to Greeley??? 
Did Douglass not know those quotes every high school history teacher reminds us of? 
Why, every high school kid in Texas that gets over a C in history could tell Frederick Douglass a thing or two. 


Lincoln's first home in Illinois was Salem -- and he was loved there for his humor, his story telling, and his honesty.

But his hometown paper changed when Lincoln "committed treason"  by being against the Mexican War.  Lincoln actually stood up to President Polk, and essentially (correctly) accused Polk of going to war to help the spread of slavery.  Specifically, the US was stealing land -- by force -- from Mexico to double the area for slavery.

Lincoln was right, of course, that is exactly what the US did -- and why Slave Power started the war.  Southern leaders like Henry Clay, himself a slave owner, said exactly the same thing.  We are killing in Mexico in order to steal their land to spread slavery.

Many people knew exactly what was going on -- killing to spread slavery.  Lincoln was hated by many, from then on, even in Illinois, for speaking the truth about the spread of slavery.

Our history books are so inept most do not mention Lincoln's efforts to stop Mexican War, and failing that, to stop the spread of slavery in the land just stolen.

Typically you get some horse shit comment like " and slavery was an issue too".  

Issue TOO?  Thousands of people killed, most of them innocent Mexicans defending their land, slave power was behind it, and Lincoln tried hard to stop it.

But you won't find that in most history text books. So people are stupid about it. 



This was 1847, and Lincoln was from then on accused  even in the NORTH  of "Niggerism" or "treason"  or "atrocious behavior"  of supporting the enemy as US troops were "being slaughtered"  by the enemy.

Of course Lincoln did not support the "enemy."  But they trashed him for that anyway.  In fact Lincoln voted for funds for the military, but he had dared to tell the truth about the land grab to spread slavery.


Lincoln tried 40 times -- 40 times- - to pass legislation to keep slavery out of the land just stolen. 

Those who caused the war, of course, claimed it had nothing whatsoever to do with slavery.   Fine, Lincoln said. Then lets keep slavery from spreading, as our founding fathers intended. 

Lincoln tried his best -- his powerful speeches in Congress, clever speeches, speeches that made it clear.  

Slave power with the help of Slave owner President Polk, was again spreading slavery by violence and deceit (Lincoln would say slavery always spread by violence and deceit, and he was right).

 Of course those who went to war with Mexico were not about to allow Lincoln to keep slavery out of that land.  They just sent paid killers there to get that land FOR SLAVERY.  Yes, the paid killers were the US Army, but that is what happened. Paid killers stole the land, and now the reason was clear to anyone.  It was to spread slavery.

Despite trying 40 times to stop the spread into those millions of square miles --Lincoln was overruled by slave power. 




Lincoln did not stop there. Unable to stop the Mexican War, unable to stop the spread of slavery into the land just stolen,  Lincoln tried to stop slavery  -- same year, 1847-- in District Of Columbia.

How the hell do people today not know this?   Simple.  If they are told at all, they are told in a way that does not convey Lincoln was guilty as charged.  He was "radical" for equality and to end slavery.

And he was hated for it -- at the time.  Those alive at the time would be dumbfounded to hear that some "historians"  claim Lincoln "did not really care about slavery"  or only made it an issue "much later".


Salem's papers attacked Lincoln for the rest of his life -- they hated him for it. They reminded people later when he ran for office how Lincoln was "atrocious"  and "a traitor".   We only need to remind you of the record, the Salem newspaper said, of Lincoln being a traitor to his country over the Mexican War.   The same paper accused Lincoln of "Niggerism"

Remember that Salem paper is from Lincoln's home town. They loved him -- until he started to speak against slavery loudly, and move against slavery, as he did, 1846 on




 Lincoln had to campaign for votes, and debate slavery in Quincy.   So yes, he parsed words -- at times.  But read his full speeches -- not isolated bullsht.  Again, and again and again, Lincoln would seem to agree with a prejudice of the day -- only to knock the crap out of that prejudice in the next sentence. 

The US Supreme Court had emphatically ruled blacks are NOT human beings (not persons) per the Constitution.  

Lincoln simply saying that blacks deserve all rights of the Declaration of Independence was very much a radical position.  And Lincoln eventually got a bullet in the brain for that position, as you will see below. 




Stephen A Douglas actually won that election of 1858, the election where they debated repeatedly. Remember that. And Douglas  won because he made  Lincoln appear as kind of a lunatic, a man who would have your daughters "sleep with Niggers" and have your wife "walk down the street next to Niggers".

While people listened as Douglas and Lincoln spoke of Dred Scott, Kansas Act, etc, they cheered Douglas when he told them Lincoln would have their daughters sleep with Negroes.

Then Lincoln had to speak -- to crowds that just cheered hate for Lincoln because he was "obsessed for Nigger rights".

If you don't know that -- and 99.99% of people do not know that -- then you can't possibly understand the brilliance of how Lincoln responded.  And you have to read Lincoln's FULL response.

Not edited bullshit.

No one told you that, did they?




Every jerk (sorry, just being honest here) knows about Lincoln's letter to Greeley, where he writes about "Union".  

Lincoln had already -- according to Southerners --essentially declared war on the South for saying this. Douglas repeatedly told the crowds that Lincoln "all slave or all free"  speech, the House Divided Speech, was mocking the South and would lead to war. 

Lincoln's own friends asked him to take back "We will be all one thing, or all the other" speech that caused so much uproar in the South.

LIncoln refused. 

In Lincoln's letter to Greeley, he repeated this idea -- but in much more careful language.  "If I could"  keep the Union together.  If I could end slavery.   Yes, he deliberately said it in a way that Kentucky (he was actually writing a letter to the people in Kentucky, using Greeley as a way to get it in the newspapers there) folks would stay in the Union.

Keeping Kentucky, said Lincoln meant everything. The most populated slave state, in a crucial position -- and it nearly went for the Confederacy. If it went to CSA, the war was over, slavery would spread, as Southern leaders War Ultimatums made clear.

So Lincoln said things in a VERY careful way.

One would die -- Union or slavery.  He did not expect that the Union would be the one to die.  Lincoln did not have to finish that thought -- if one would die, Union or slavery, and he did not expect the Union to die, it meant he expected slavery to die.

One had to go.  One would stay.

And the South agreed.  Southern leaders said Lincoln's words were a "declaration of War"  against the South. People in the North asked LIncoln to take those words back- did you know that?

Lincoln would not take those words back.  Slavery would die. Or the Union would die. And he did not expect the Union to do die.

See-- you need to get the full story.  Lincoln was radical. But you need to know the full story,  his full speeches, and what was going on.

So what?  This kept Kentucky out of the Confederacy and probably saved 100,000 lives.  And it worked, the Union won the war.

But if you don't know all that, jerks will convince you the Greeley letter was horrible.

Nonsense -- after he wrote that letter, Lincoln kicked the living shit out of slavery.

Too complicated? 

This is the reason Frederick Douglass (as you will see, Quincy papers called for his death)   said Lincoln was "radical swift zealous and determined".

Maybe Douglass (Frederick) knew what the hell he was talking about?

There is a REASON so many people even in the North hated and feared Lincoln. 




There is not one history text book in the US that even mentions this amazing fact (that Douglas yelled into Lincoln face that he wanted white girls to sleep with black men).

This was not done as a lark -- Douglas won all his elections, including against Lincoln several times, until Lincoln won POTUS.

And Lincoln only beat Douglas then because 3 candidates ran that were okay with spread of slavery. Only Lincoln was against.

If only Douglas ran against Lincoln, Douglas wins easily, again.

Remember that.


Those who were foolish enough, even in very "anti-slavery states"  to be for "perfect equality"  didn't get elected.

In fact, almost no candidate in the entire US was for "perfect equality."   Race mixing was against the law -- and people wanted it that way.  Blacks being slaves, well that was in the South, was the feeling of many. What do we care?  In fact, most of Lincoln's close advisors wanted Lincoln to simply let the South go, spread slavery where they could,  and be rid of them.




Here is another thing you are never told in any US text books. Not one.  If you can find me a US text book with Southern War Ultimatums explained fully, I will pay 500 dollars for that text book.  (full details below-- you can't make up your own "text book" and such!) 

Southern leaders boasted they were killing to spread slavery. And promised they would continue to spread slavery until slavery was all over the US -- to the Pacific. They would kill and hang (yes, they actually said this proudly) until slavery was in places that had rejected slavery, including Kansas. 

If you don't know Southern War Ultimatums, it is literally impossible to grasp why Lincoln refused to break up the Union. Ending the Union meant slavery spreads. 

Slavery had to go, or Union had to go.  

Stupidly,  we now assume Lincoln did not care about slavery, because at times he spoke about Union.  Bullshit.  LIncoln himself explained it repeatedly, clearly, emphatically, over and over.

Why not believe him?  Slavery would die, or Union would die.  One or the other.  One would end, one would live.

Lincoln would keep the Union together -- so that slavery would not spread.



Lincoln wisely spoke about Union.

Then he kicked the living shit out of slavery.

Too complicated?  

Need time?


Yes Lincoln did talk about Union. And  spoke of slavery incessantly, much more than he spoke about Union.

The two -- union and slavery -- were on a collision course. As Lincoln explainedKansas Act/ Dred Scott had made it impossible to keep slavery out of the West and North. 

95% of the people of Kansas were against slavery, and just came into Union as free state.

But Southern War Ultimatums first demand was the spread of slavery INTO KANSAS.

Let me repeat that because many  "history" teachers have no clue.  Southern leaders were already killing. Already at war. They already called it a war.

A war to spread slavery.

We teach this -- stupidly -- as "Trouble in Kansas" and typically blame "both sides". 

Blame both sides makes South apologist feel good, but it's entirely bogus.  Southern leaders were boasting of sending killers there. They took out ads in papers pleading for men, and telling them it was to violently spread slavery.

The speeches by US Senator David Rice Atchison is a great example.  Read it in full READ IT HERE


Only later -- after the South lost - did they come up with drastically different excuses.   They hated states rights when KS rejected slavery.  They sent killers to stop  that.

After KS became a free state, they issued War Ultimatums that Kansas must be slave state, despite the 96% vote against slavery.  Remember that.

Headlines in Southern papers -- boasting of it.

Five War Ultimatums.

All five about the spread of slavery.

First ultimatums -- Kansas must be slave state, even though KS was a free state by then, and voted 95% against slavery.

Remember this.  See the date of the War Ultimatums -- AFTER Kansas became a free state.

After Kansas citizens voted 95% against slavery.

Southern leaders issued war ultimatums that they must accept slavery.

Think about that -- so when you learn LIncoln said we will be all on thing (slave states) or all the other (free states)  this is what he was talking about.

He was not kidding.  

He was not exaggerating. 

I can't help it that no one told you.

Southern War Ultimatums (and Jeff Davis himself) demanded that Kansas be a slave state -- even though Kansas was by then a free state, and voted that way, by 95% of Kansas white voters.

When you know Southern War Ultimatums, and you know Southern killing sprees to enforce those War ultimatums, you won't be so gullible when "historians" give you some double talk about causes of the Civil War.

Of five war ultimatums -- do you know how many were about slavery?  Five.  Five out of Five. Five War Ultimatums.

All five about slavery.  And the first ultimatum? 

The spread of slavery into Kansas -- which by then was a free state.  I can't help it you were not told. Slap your teacher.  But the fact remains, Southern War ultimatums first demand was the spread of slavery into Kansas, which had become a free state by then, and voted against slavery 95%.

If the South would kill to spread slavery into Kansas (as they did) and issue War ultimatums that a free state be a slave state (as they did) then nothing could stop them from spreading slavery to all of the US.

This Lincoln knew. This Lincoln spoke of at length.

I can't help it you did not know.  Slap your teacher, again.

By the vile "logic" of Kansas Act and Dred Scott, it was now impossible to keep slavery from spreading to all the states.

We will be all one thing.

Or we will be all the other thing.





But how do you teach a bunch of kids that Douglas repeatedly accused Lincoln of wanting "Niggers" to sleep with white women?  Or the thousand other similiar things along those lines?

Others accused Lincoln of "exterminating"  the white race for  his "Niggerism".  And that was in the North -- in Salem, his old home town. 

Did you know Lincoln's home town, that loved him dearly before he went into politics, despised him after Douglas tied "Niggerism" to Lincoln.  See their papers I show below. They all but called for his head. 

That was in ILLINOIS -- the "Niggerism" charge turned some of Lincoln's close friends against him. 

NO one told you that, did they?

And Douglas won repeated elections against Lincoln using much the same technique. Make Lincoln defend "Niggers" taking white women, and he won't win anything.  Douglas was smart that way. 

Some folks got killed for it.

  Even in the North (and very much in the South) some  newspapers called for death and violence against those who even spoke against slavery.

Let me repeat that -- they called for DEATH of those who spoke against slavery. Speaking against slavery was a crime in many states (you did not know that either).  And when people spoke against slavery in those states anyway, newspapers called for their death.  

See this, if you don't believe it.

Newspapers calling for DEATH for those who spoke against slavery where speaking against slavery was a crime. 

Lincoln  spoke in Quincy -  where this newspaper called for the death of Frederick Douglass for speaking against slavery in Kansas. 
Later, Lincoln went to Kansas, and spoke against slavery there -- he had to be very careful what he said.

NO one ever told you this, did they?  The point is, Lincoln had to be very very careful what he said, to whom. 



Your daughter will sleep with Niggers.  Niggers will destroy the white race.  "Nigger rants"  North and South is the biggest cause of the Civil War.

Douglas did not have to be careful. He could be as extreme as he wanted, and he wanted to be extreme as hell. He wanted whites to be scared of Lincoln -- Lincoln meant "Niggers"  will walk down the street with your wife.  Do you want that?

In the South, it was even worse for Lincoln. Lincoln, and anyone like  him, were going to exterminate the white race.

Not just make your "daughters sleep with Niggers".  They went full monty on fear.

Just stopping the SPREAD of slavery -- just that, only that -- would destroy the white race.

We must spread slavery or the white race will be exterminated.

That is how you got cheers and yelling when you gave speeches at the time. 

So when Lincoln got up to speak, this was the mindset of many in the crowed. He had to allay the fears and hate pumped up by others- -including by Stephen A Douglas moments before on the same stage.  Douglas as screaming -- literally screaming said newspapers, running side to side-- screaming these kinds of things.

I can't help no one told you this before. They should have.  So you have no idea how dangerous it was for Lincoln to even speak as he did.   But he did -- and when you read his full speeches (not just the distorted stuff) you will see how damn amazing Lincoln was, how radical he was in his full speech. 

You can, and many have, distorted Lincoln and the times by not showing the full issue -- Niggers will destroy the white race, Lincoln Worships Niggers, do you want your daughters to sleep with Niggers?

How many schools even mention that as a fact, must less a basic fact?  How many biographies of Lincoln mention that, much less as a basic fact?

Yet it was a basic fact of life, not just for Lincoln but for the nation. This fear and hate mongering was at the heart of US politics as slavery spread, and those who spread it had to justify it. They had to justify it is speeches to the public.

And in those speeches, exactly like Douglas did, they screamed about Niggers and your daughters sleeping with them. 

This was not uncommon. This was not even unusual.  This was just how it was.  Pumping hate and fear of black males was a very good way to get political power in the South, and in much of the North.  It all depended where you were. But it worked North and South.

Not so much slavery -- but Southern leaders said if we do not spread slavery, WE DIE.  Let me repeat that, if we do not spread slavery WE DIE.

Let me repeat that again, because it's that damn important.  If we do not spread slavery WE DIE.

No one every told you this. That's a damn shame. This is what caused the Civil War.

We need perpetual slavery -- for the safety of the white race, was Jeff Davis central demagogue hate mongering position on slavery. It MUST spread.  

The South has a right to take slavery where wants, he claimed, because of Dred Scott decision. 
Historians whitewashing the  "Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers" is the biggest single problem with current understanding of Lincoln and US Civil War.  Nothing is more basic. Not for the Civil War, and not for Lincoln. 

We have high school teachers now insisting that Lincoln "was not really for equality,"  and "did not particularly care to end slavery".

This would be a shock to almost everyone alive in 1850's.  Certainly Lincoln's enemies would be astonished.

 Lincoln was called "Negro Worshiper"   leader of "Nigger rights"   and  taunted for being "obsessed with equality for the Niggers".


While Lincoln would be, after his death, a heroic figure in the North, but he was hated and feared by many white male voters, Only white males voted, essentially.

Those who sought political power in contest against Lincoln-- Stephen A Douglas most of all -- got that power by pumping hate and fear when that suited him. He was very very good at it.

Douglas did not create the hate, as much as he used it so wisely to defeat Lincoln.  He spoke about it for hours, to Lincoln's face, and even worse, even more crudely, when Lincoln was not there. 

Douglas used the "Nigger rants" as Quincy paper called them,  to put visions in white male's heads about blacks sleeping with their daughters, walking with their wives, being judges and jurors and voting.  Do you want "Negroes" to be judges and on juries?  Do you want "Niggers" to sleep with your daughters?

I cant help it if no one told you, if this is not in your books. But it is what happened to Lincoln and others who dared to speak against slavery and the spread of it. 

Yes, in the South it was worse for Lincoln.  There Lincoln would have been arrested for simply speaking against slavery. It was against the law in the South (be you did not know this) to speak or even own books that were against slavery.

Not just down South. I am talking about the North.  In Illinois (Illinois was considered the West then) it was still dangerous to be in a crowd without protection in some places, if you were seen as "Negro Worshipper".

Yet Lincoln went everyplace he could -- he even went to Kansas, after Southers leaders had made it illegal to speak against slavery there.   Bet you never heard that Southern leaders  sent killers to Kansas in 1856, and they set up their own government, and quickly made it a crime to speak publically or publish anything against slavery..

Lincoln knew it -- and Quincy papers urged the death of Frederick Douglas for speaking against slavery. See proof below.  Lincoln had to debate in Quincy. Remember, newspapers there had called for the DEATH of Frederick Douglas for speaking against slavery in Kansas.

After the debates, guess who went to Kansas and spoke against slavery?  Abraham Lincoln, that's who.  

Things you should know.  Things your history teacher probably does not even suspect. 

This was no laughing matter.  Other men were killed -- yes killed - for being seen as "radical for the Niggers".  As you will see, Lincoln was probably lucky he was not killed much sooner -- that if Douglas had his way, Lincoln, like others, would have been beaten or shot, or at least scared to even run for office.




 "Historians"  like Foner essentially call Frederick Douglas stupid.   You hear everything from "Lincoln was nothing special"   to "Lincoln only used slavery for political gain".

Some such historians are just stupid on their face -- Lincoln used slavery for political GAIN?  How stupid can you get, Lincoln was lucky he wasn't shot sooner, and only won the presidental race because three  pro slavery or pro spread of slavery candidates ran.

Lincoln alone was the one who said - no. No spread of slavery.  That was his only bed rock position -- no spread of slavery.  And to that the South issued War Ultimatums about the SPREAD of slavery.  (See more below).

Maybe Frederick Douglass, the genius of the age, a former slave who personally urged Lincoln to allow blacks in the US military (which changed everything)  should just read a few history books today. Something by Foner, perhaps. 

He would learn a few things.  Lincoln like "didn't really care" about slavery.  Be kind of a shock to Douglass and everyone alive at the time.  True, Douglas berated Lincoln for not acting sooner, but he knew and said he knew, Lincoln was bound by the laws and public sentiment of the day.

Douglass knew Lincoln had to -- must -- bring public sentiment with him.  Had Lincoln been candid any sooner about his very clear (to many) wish to destroy slavery by force if need be, whites would not have joined the Union Army.  Even Union generals, like Grant, commented he would not  have fought if he thought this war was to free the slaves.  Lincoln had no choice -- he had to talk about Union.

Lincoln spoke of Union about 1/10 of the times he spent speaking about slavery.  But he did make it very clear -- clear to the point Southern leaders accused Lincoln of declaring war on them before he was even elected- that keeping the Union together meant the death of slavery.  SLavery could not exist in the Union because it could not spread in the Union.   Slavery must spread by Kansas Act and Dred Scott -- so only one could survive.

Lincoln said very powerfully, he did not think the Union would end. In fact, at one LIncoln Douglas debate Lincoln shouted -- WE SHALL NOT LET YOU (slave power folks) destroy the Union by the spread of slavery. We will stop you.

Douglass would be surprised that Lincoln "evolved" over time, and was "nothing special" about race or equality.  Lincoln's matter of speech, some of his words, his very carefully chosen words, did evolve. And he did see that slavery was going to violently spread and thereby destroy the USA, or slavery would end. One of the two.  

Like Lincoln cared about Union -- not freedom for slaves.

Like  Lincoln wrote a letter to Greeley about the Union.   And those eight quotes we hear so often.   Didn't Douglass know about those (yes, he knew, and he published them in his own newspapers). 

Oh wait, maybe, just maybe, Douglass knew WTF he was talking about?   Maybe Douglass was not fooled by distorted bullshit.   Maybe there is more to the "story"?

Yep. More to the story -- like facts. 



told the crowds to pay no attention to Lincoln's "pleading for the poor slave".  Lincoln's  words,  he told the crowd, may bring "tears to your eyes".  But be not deceived. Lincoln would have your daughters sleeping with Negroes and have "Niggers" on juries.

Lincoln was "radical"  Douglas told the crowds -- radical, obsessed, for equality for the blacks (or "Niggers", he used both terms.)

Then Lincoln had to speak.  Then Lincoln had to speak.

Did I mention -- then Lincoln had to speak. 


Do you know what some in the crowd yelled back?

Some yelled back "down with Niggers".   Then Lincoln had to get up to speak.  The most powerful speaker of the time (Douglas)  had just screamed, yes screamed, about Lincoln wanting your daughter to sleep with blacks, go to school with your kids,  and be with your wife.   


Here Lincoln attacked in his own former home town paper -Salem, for "Niggerism".   They once loved Lincoln, but Douglas's pounding on Lincoln for "his obsession with equality for Niggers" worked.

People who once held Lincoln dear, now held him in contempt.

So Lincoln did this for "Politics"?  

Lincoln lost elections because of this -- and eventually got a bullet to the brain for it.   Yet fools will claim Lincoln only cared for blacks for political reasons!    They are stupid (yes, they are) about what was going on in Illinois and the nation in 1850-1860. 

Lincoln lost that election - and an earlier election against Douglas.  Douglas did the smart thing politically, attack his opponents by saying they will cause "Niggers" to sleep with white women. 



Douglas won this race, because Lincoln was "too radical" for the Nigger equality.   Many Illinois papers agreed with DOUGLAS! Yes Lincoln had supporting newspapers, too. But there was no newspaper in the state that advocated blacks and whites marry.

No newspaper that said blacks should be on juries, or be able to vote. When you said you were against slavery, instantly you were accused of what Lincoln was accused of -- you want "Niggers" to have equality. You are dangerous.

That's the basic structure of what politics was all about from 1850 to 1865. 

Even though Lincoln did his best to assure the public  that "just because I do not want a colored woman for a slave, does not mean I want her for a wife.   I do not need for her either.  I can just let her alone"

Lincoln went on "Certainly she (the black slave)  is not my equal in certain respects, any more than I am judge Douglas's equal in certain respects. But in her natural right to eat the bread she mad with her own hands with the leave of anyone, she IS my equal and the equal of Judge Douglas".


You can -- if you like -- take some of Lincoln's words and make him sound awful.  But you can not take all his words and make him sound anything of the sort.  No one -- no one -- left Lincoln's speeches without knowing exactly what he said and meant.

Blacks and whites CERTAINLY are equal in their rights under God and as part of mankind.  Douglas, on the other hand, insisted that blacks are NOT part of mankind, and pointed out correctly (remember this, correctly) that the US Surpreme Court had ruled blacks are inferior beings, not  persons. (No one every told you that, did they)?

Lincoln was committing "treason"  Douglas said in one speech, by simply saying blacks and whites should be equal under the law. In other speeches, in nearly every speech Douglas gave after 1857, Douglas said Lincoln would either have your daughters sleep with "Niggers"  or otherwise destroy the safety of the white race in all of the United States.

Douglas never ever said anything half way.   Sadly, in all our text books, his vilest comments have been whitewashed.  They were not whitewashed then -- and Douglas won that race, because of it.


Douglas speeches were spectacles -- he shot off cannons as he got of the train for the Lincoln Douglas debates, for example.   He had his supporters scream themselves hoarse, the bands play. 

Douglas did not just mention "Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers" and "Lincoln is obsessed with slavery".   He screamed it -- repeatedly.

He ran from side to side of the stage yelling it.  

Why? Why would Douglas scream that Lincoln wants your daughter to "sleep with Niggers"?

Why -- why would Douglas again and again pound Lincoln on his "obsession for equality"?

Because Douglas was wisely aware of public sentiment.  It was physically dangerous (and political suicide) to be for white women to sleep with black men.  And that was the fear and hate Douglas used dozens of times -- even screaming it into Lincoln's face.




Its a vile thing that our schools never taught this  political trick used all over the US, North and South, especially in some areas.  

Most people have no clue this was the actual emotional argument. Not many people actually wanted slavery -- even in the South.   But white males (the only voters) could be and were very impressed with hate and fear mongers.  Generally the hate and fear mongers won, especially in the South.

In the South if you were just not eager ENOUGH to spread slavery, you were called an "abolitionist".  So no one dared say a positive word for not spreading slavery.  Just being against the spread of slavery was being against GOD and being for destruction of the white race.

People simply don't grasp this now, and it's not taught, not even mentioned. 

"I will see Kansas burn in hell before I let it become a free state" - David Rice Atchison. 
Yes, Atchison knew that 90% of the whites in Kansas were against slavery. 

Whites being killed in Alton Illinois
for speaking and writing against slavery.

Lincoln debated in Alton, not far from this murder.


We must expand (slavery) or we must perish.  And the crowds cheered. No one cheered for slavery and torture of slaves -- but they sure as hell would cheer for bombastic powerful speakers and preachers pushing GOD and white survival.

White SURVIVAL. Not kinda, not sorta. The future of the white race depended on spreading slavery.   And that's exactly what Atchison was fighting killing and torturing for, in Kansas. 

Lincoln "wants Niggers"  (Yes Douglas often used that word)  not only to sleep with your daughter -- Douglas went on and on about it.

Lincoln wants "Niggers"  on juries.  Douglas painted word pictures, in long speeches, away from Lincoln or with Lincoln, about the horrors of "equality" that Lincoln was "obsessed" for.

Black men will walk down the street with your wife. Black kids will be in your schools.  

So when Lincoln spoke he had to be very very careful what he said.


There is not a single text book in the United States, not one, that shows that Stephen Douglas screamed repeatedly at Lincoln for being "obsessed with Nigger equality".

Why not show what Douglas was so proud of?

Douglas was sure proud of his words -- he repeated them, at ran from side to side of the stage screaming them, when doing  his "Nigger rant"  as Quincy papers called it.

So important to Douglas -- but not important now.  Only one historian even mentions this in a clear way, and that is toward the back of his book,  and he does not show that this was the central emotional attack by Douglas, and the central issue used by all Southern apologist -- BLACKS WILL BE WITH YOUR WOMEN.

Not just Douglas -- these was a theme, repeated over and over by those in the North and South who attacked "Negro Worshippers"  like Lincoln .  (Anyone against the spread of slavery, even in the South, could be accused of being a "Negro Worshipper -- that's how hate mongers work).

Douglas sure as hell thought it was important -- he used this attack not only in the debates to Lincoln's face, he used it in speeches when Lincoln was not there.

And then DOuglas would spend ten or twenty minutes of his speech carefully giving whites a very scary view of the future if "Niggers were equal to whites".   Your daughter sleeping with them was the most shocking - but also, your wife will walk down the street with blacks, blacks will on juries, they will be in schools.  Rape will be common. 

Do you want that? 

When Lincoln got up, he had to be very careful how he answered.



In fact, not a single college text book that we have so far found, mentions it either. Not one.  

Not one. Yet Douglas did this, to one degree or another -- in every Lincoln Douglas debate.

"Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers"

Douglas again, and again, and again, went after Lincoln by telling folks he wanted their daughters "to sleep with Niggers".

And the crowd would yell  "Down with Niggers". 

Did you know that?

Douglas had done this against Charles Sumner too. Sumner was Douglas's enemy in the Senate.  Douglas actually told Sumner he should be "kicked like a dog".   Did you know that?

The next day, Sumner was beaten nearly to death on the Senate floor. Did you know that?

Do you know what Douglas did -- according to newspapers?   Douglas sat by and smiled. Let me repeat that, Douglas sat by and smiled, as Sumner was beaten, just feet away.

No one told you that, either.

Do you see the man smiling in the drawing of Sumner's beating?

That small man on the far right. That is Stephen A Douglas. Smiling.

Newspapers reported this at the time.   See -- you need all the facts.  It was not that long after Sumner was beaten almost to death that Abraham Lincoln decided to run for the US Senate.

Against Stephen A Douglas. 


See how Lincoln handled Douglas attacks -- humor and wit.  

The humor and wit -- and plea for humanity for the blacks race --changed the minds of many in the North, and in so doing, changed America.  

So it's a BFD. 



By the time Douglas got finished trashing Lincoln, Lincoln was hated, even in his home town for "Niggerism". 

Douglas essentially led the public (many of them) to hate Lincoln and fear he would have their daughters "sleep with Niggers".

The Salem newspaper --Lincoln lived there when he first moved to Illinois --went from loving Lincoln to all but calling for his arrest, and accused him of being a traitor and of "Niggerism".

The point you need to know is this. IT WORKED. Douglas pumping up the fear worked. Lincoln changed a lot of minds, Lincoln pushed Douglas into an important "box"  that made it impossible for Douglas to win President race two years hence.   But Douglas won the Senate race.

Don't forget that.



Douglas did not just say once or twice that Lincoln was obsessed for equality.  He spoke spoke at great length the horrors that would befall the whites of Illinois and the country if Lincoln had his way. 

It was not a throw away line. Douglas ran from side to side of the stage  screaming it, in Charleston Illinois.   Douglas did not run from side to side of the stage screaming anything -but that Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers.

It was a BFD.


And Douglas had reason to do so. Lincoln was radical -- he was obsessed.  Douglas carried around, during the Lincoln Douglas debates, a satchel of Lincoln's past speeches.  Over and over Douglas refereed to those speeches -- and showed Lincoln's  actions-- where Lincoln declared slavery will die, or the Union will die. 

Slavery had to go, or the United States would go.  That was, according to Douglas and others, essentially a promise of civil war by Lincoln.  Southern newspapers said the same thing. Lincoln -- by saying repeatedly that the United States would end, or slavery would end, was declaring war on slavery.

Stephen A Douglas then told the crowds repeatedly, the lie that Lincoln and Frederick Douglas were in a carriage that day with a white woman.  Remember, newspapers in that same city called for the execution of Frederick Douglass.

People were killed in several of the debate cities for being too much of an abolitionist.  At the time, calling someone an abolitionist in parts of  Illinois was a lot like calling someone a child molester now. 

Remember -- this newspapers called for Frederick Douglas to be killed for speaking against slavery.

Do you got t

No one -- remember this -- no one could even be safe, much less win a political seat -- by saying black men should be able to marry white women, or that white women should even be allowed to be NEAR a black man.

Even the "radical abolitionist"  in most of the country would wisely back off what we would call "total social equality".   
Remember this -- spread of slavery was equal to the survival of white race, said Southern leaders, loudly, proudly, in writing, and in speeches.   

And it worked.  This is what Lincoln had to deal with.  

So, he did. 



If Lincoln had his way -- your daughters will walk down the street with "Niggers".   "Niggers"  will be in your schools, and "Niggers" will be able to vote.  

Why on earth would Douglas hit Lincoln like this over and over?  
Because it worked.  As you will see, the hate and fear of black men taking your white women was the "energy" in not only Douglas's campaign, but in virtually all campaigns against those who simply tried to stop the spread of slavery. 

Just stopping the SPREAD of slavery will "EXTERMINATE" the white race. Remember this -- very clearly, repeatedly, emphatically, Lincoln's enemies made it know, just stopping the SPREAD of slavery was going to exterminate the white race.

If you were against just the spread of slavery -- even against the violent spread of slavery -- you were against GOD and for the extermination of the white race.

Let that sink in. Those who were against the spread of slavery were against God and  for the extermination of the white race.

Why?  How would stopping the spread of slavery destroy the white race?   They explained that -- because black population (the slave population) was growing far faster than the white population.  

In South Carolina, already, slaves outnumbers whites.  No one ever told you that, did they?

So to get power, to get attention, you made damn sure you were more pro slavery, more pro hate and fear of freedom for blacks, and more focused on spreading slavery.

It was not to protect slavery where it was -- said Southern leaders at the time.  Just stopping the SPREAD of slavery was like "burning us to death slowly"   by making our children equal to "Niggers".

This governor explained it clearly.
Read his words. 

Lincoln will burn us to death slowly -- just by being against the SPREAD of slavery

Most people have no clue just how violent slave power was. 

So when Stephen A Douglas told the crowd that, he was all but calling for violence against Lincoln, too.  See more below about Stephen A Douglas role in getting other political enemies beaten --I mean physically beaten, because that is exactly what he did.

Quincy papers -- Lincoln debated Douglas in Quincy -- called for death by hanging FREDERICK DOUGLAS.  No one ever told you that either, did they?

Lincoln had to  campaign in cities where the newspapers called for the death of Frederick Douglass. And Lincoln's own hometown -- Salem -- hated him for his "black republican" ways, accusing him of treason to the United States because he had dared to question the Mexican War.  See more about why Lincoln was hated in Illinois by millions of people, and how Lincoln handled that.

No one ever told you Lincoln was hated -- because he was so "radical for the Nigger"  did they?  No. Someone should have told you.  Don't blame me, I am telling you now. 


Stephen A Douglas satchel of Lincoln's speeches, for the debates, was full of quotes that made Lincoln look like a radical abolitionist. He pleading for humanity for blacks.  Lincoln's Peoria speech, where Lincoln suggested slave owners should be kicked to death, was in the satchel.

"For the Negro"  and the drawing of big lipped slave, was polite enough to post anywhere.

But when speaking --  men like Douglas (and many others) made it clear. Lincoln was for the "Niggers".  They want your daughters to marry the "Niggers". They want "Niggers" on your juries, and "Niggers" to vote.

If you don't understand that, and you don't understand how powerful that fear and hate was (it worked to win all elections) you don't understand Lincoln or US history or the US Civil War. 

It was about "Niggers" taking white women -and the public was told that over, and over and over.

You are not told about it, but they were. 

Lincoln's claim that blacks were human beings -- entitled to all rights by the Declaration of Independence -- was in the satchel.  

Someone should have told you -- and no one ever has-- that Douglas attacked Lincoln effectively, again, and again, and again, for simply stating that the Declaration of Independence should apply to all human beings-- not just whites.

Douglas had a point -- United States Supreme Court ruled that the Declaration of Independence could not apply to blacks because blacks were "inferior"  and not "persons"  according to the Taney Court in Dred Scott decision.

  Therefore, the Declaration of Independence is of no effect, and on top of that, blacks can not qualify as "all men all created" equal because blacks are inferior beings  .

Lincoln was committing "revolution" and would start a "violent civil war"  by insisting blacks are persons and therefore entitled to rights under the Constitution. 


Douglas told crowds Lincoln -- with plenty of ammunition and facts to back it up -- that Lincoln was a "traitor"  (The traitor charge was from Lincoln's resistance over a decade before that, during the Mexican War, because  Lincoln was against stealing land from Mexico (as we did) to spread slavery into those lands we stole.

But US did steal that land, and just as Lincoln said they would, slave power pushed slavery into those lands, against Lincoln's efforts (40 times he tried to stop it) to keep slavery out. 




Again and again, in every Lincoln Douglas debate, Douglas portrayed Lincoln as dangerous, an extremist, who would cause your daughters and wives to "walk the streets with black men" and cause a needless war. 

After a hour of such talk, Lincoln had to get up and answer Douglas. Did Lincoln want our daughters to sleep with "Niggers"? Did Lincoln want a war to give blacks the right to marry and sleep with our daughters? 

Will blacks me on our juries?  Will black men walk down the street in "perfect equality".  

How Lincoln answered Douglas changed America.


Of course Lincoln did not want a war -- and no war was necessary, Lincoln said.  Slavery is a cancer, and like a cancer, he said, it must spread it it must end.  

The South said much the same thing - surprisingly -- we must expand slavery or the white race will be exterminate.


Quincy was another site for Lincoln Douglas debates.
Quincy papers called for Frederick Douglass to be hung for speaking against slavery.

Let me repeat that -- to show you how "abolitionist" were not just treated badly, they could be killed.  

Lincoln debated in Quincy, not far from the newspaper office that called for the death of Frederick Douglas for even speaking in public against slavery.



Douglas was a brilliant politician.  He always pumped up the fear, always pumped up the hate, to get power.  He did not invent this technique, he was just very very good at it.  And he went into hyper drive to push Lincoln off his "equality for the Nigger" obsession.

Douglas tied into the fear and hate of blacks, and used it to smear Lincoln.  It was far more than Stephen A Douglas's "Nigger rant"  as Quincy papers called it.  For one thing, Douglas repeated this, to one degree or another, in every debate,  

And remember,  Douglas was just one of hundreds of speakers to got crowds to fear and hate Lincoln, and men like Lincoln.

This entire aspect of the 1850's -- not just Douglas's extreme yelling and dramatic expressions in the debates- - is glossed over. 

Lincoln had to face not only Douglas -- the most powerful speaker of the generation said Horace Greeley -- Lincoln had to face this from his own hometown newspapers, from hundreds of others.

Eventually Lincoln got a bullet to the brain for a speech about voting rights for blacks.  See more below how Booth changed his mind from kidnap, to kill, after hearing Lincoln speech about voting rights.

Before the civil war  Lincoln was hated by many for being....

                              RADICAL FOR NIGGERS  

                       NEGRO WORSHIPPER



Lincoln was lucky he was not shot in 1854  1856,  1858.  



After Lincoln was accused of things -- by the most powerful speakers of the day, to his face, LIncoln responded. 

Do you know how he responded? I show you --and you can read the Lincoln Douglas debates yourself. 

Lincoln used humor.  He made the audience laugh, which beats getting shot by a mile.   He had to use humor to defuse the hate Douglas rained down on him for hours.  Lincoln had no choice. 

But now we are told by stupid people that "LIncoln didn't care".  Lincoln "only used slavery for politics".

Are you nuts?  It was a winner in politics  to do what Douglas did. REmember Lincoln lost repeatedly in every 1850 election he ran for, he LOST.  His message was too "Nigger loving".  Lincoln was accusing of "Niggerism" and "Worshipping Niggers". 

But people today are taught in schools by idiot "history teachers" that tell them Lincoln "didn't really care about slavery" till later.

Horse shit. Lincoln did little else in life from 1846 on but to work on killing slavery. And he did kill it.


Others were shot.  Lincoln used his humor -- see it below -- in every speech after he was a50 years later,  Lincoln is accused of "being nothing special"  and  "not caring about slavery" and  "using slavery for political gain."

He only cared about Union -- he was "as racist as anyone".  He "hated blacks,  and wanted to send them to Africa."

What the hell? 

Southern crowds were told ....


Douglas calling Lincoln "obsessed for rights for the Negro"  was mild compared to what the South said about him.

If Lincoln, Douglas, and Southern leaders came back today, they would simply not believe anyone called Lincoln "nothing special" about race, or "only used slavery for political purposes".

Lincoln LOST because he was so radical for "the Niggers"  as Douglas sometimes put it. And Lincoln got a bullet to the brain for his speech suggesting "educated blacks"  should get to vote.

Kinda depends who told you, and which quotes they used.  Get all the quotes, but even more, get context.  Get Lincoln's actions. 


Lincoln's backyard. 

Many Northern papers joined in trashing Lincoln, too, including his own home town paper (Salem)  after Lincoln showed his "true colors"  upon leaving Salem.  His hometown paper called Lincoln a traitor  -- because Lincoln, in 1847, had been against the Mexican War. Lincoln was against that war because President Polk had started the war for the "naked purpose"  as critics said, of helping slave power nearly double the land for slavery, and to get that land by killing and war.

The point is -- Lincoln was well known for being  "RADICAL"  FOR equality, and it cost him the Senate election in 1858, then it cost him his life, a bullet to the brain, in 1865.

Lincoln was killed after Booth heard Lincoln's speech, where he advocated eventual voting rights for blacks.  Because of that speech, Booth changed his plan from kidnap, to kill. 

In the South, Lincoln was called "the blackest abolitionist"  who will DESTROY THE WHITE RACE.  

Most people alive in 1850's, North and South  would have regularly heard how Lincoln was a "Negro Worshipper"  and   "wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers." 

Lincoln as  "Negro Worshipper" was not a throw away line uttered by drunks at a bar.  These were terms used in newspapers in the NORTH.

So when Lincoln got up to speak, the crowd of 1000 to 8000 had just heard the most powerful speaker of the day tell them Lincoln want's your daughters to sleep with "Niggers".

The fact that 99.9% of "historians" don't bother to even mention this shows the lack of research and understanding by most of them.

 Stephen A Douglas, the most powerful speaker of the century, screamed this directly at Lincoln in repeated debates. Douglas ran from side to side of the stage in Charleston Illinois doing this.  And that was after Douglas own train (not just a train car, the entire train)  pulled in, and Douglas stayed in  his private car while paid fans welcomed him.

He then exited the train to the sound of cannon, a cannon Douglas pulled along behind the train.  

Try to imagine this. Douglas created a stir -- something like a fundamentalist preacher, and then ripped into Lincoln in sundry ways.  By "sundry"  I mean he screamed -- ran side to side screaming -- that Lincoln was obsessed with equality for the "Nigger". 

By screaming that Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with "Niggers".


This was not the act of  a deranged lunatic -- it was smart politics -- and it worked. It was smart politics because that was the raw nerve.

This "raw nerve" was plainly put then -- you never hear of it now.  Lincoln would have your daughter sleep with "Niggers". 

And it was a nerve struck over, and over, and over, North and South. It worked.  Douglas did not care about anything but getting and keeping power, he did not care about slavery or blacks. He just cared about power.

And this -- he knew correctly -- was how you beat Lincoln.  Lincoln had 2000 speeches, many of them pleading for humanity for the black race -- Douglas said Lincoln will "bring tears to your eyes"  -- for the black, but  the asks  why Lincoln didn't care about the poor workers in the North. 

Very effective demagoguery -- used by many politicians, before and since.

And it worked. Douglas won the election.   And he would have won the presidential election, too, but two other candidates joined in the race. 


You should have been told this. Not just about Douglas screaming it, but the entire hate and fear mongering meme that went along with it.

Lincoln then had to get up and speak.  

When Lincoln spoke -- the nation changed.   You can not understand how powerful and influential Lincoln was in his reply.  How Lincoln handled that hate and fear mongering, though he would die from it, is the real story of Lincoln and the CiviL War.


Lincoln was from Illinois, which was still considered "WEST"  to most people alive in 1850.  Newspapers in Illinois called for the death of Frederick Douglass, the escaped slave who spoke in the North against slavery.

Let me repeat that -- newspapers in Lincoln's state called for the death of Frederick Douglas for speaking against slavery.

Newspapers in Lincoln's own home town of Salem called him a traitor,  claimed he was all "Niggerisms"  and fell just short of calling for his demise. 

Lincoln LOST the election to Douglas in 1858, because Douglas was able to paint Lincoln as "obsessed with Nigger rights".


Most people today would assume the hate and fear of the black male was deeply rooted in the South -- but not the North.  Nonsense. Depends where in the North. 

Politicians, of course, would use hate and fear mongering for political purpose. None more so than Stephen A Douglas, when it came to Lincoln and the coming of Civil War.

In Quincy papers, where Lincoln had to debate, the newspaper there called for the death of Frederick Douglass for even speaking against slavery in Kansas. 

  Guess who else went to Kansas to speak against slavery anyway?

Lincoln.  No one ever told you that Lincoln went to Kansas to speak against slavery, after (remember that, after) slave power had successfully made it a crime to speak publicly against slavery in Kansas. 

It was on this basis -- that it was illegal in Kansas to speak against slavery -- that Quincy papers called for Frederick Douglas to be hung for doing exactly that. 



Lincoln did little but travel around after 1854,  at his own expense, and at his own danger, speaking against slavery and warning people that slave power had concoted a "machine" (Kansas Act and Dred Scott decision) that by its very nature would push slavery to all of the US, North and South, or it would destroy slavery.

One or the other had to end, Lincoln said. One would survive, the other would not.  Dred Scott and Kansas Act had pushed slavery power to such extremes that now, slavery became a "sacred right" he said.  The Dred Scott decision said all men are NOT equal, that blacks are inherently inferior.  Yes, they did. Go read it.

The Dred Scott decision literally blew away, as a legal document and idea, that "all men are created equal,  with and inherent right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness".   That was now ruled invalid by the Dred Scott decision.

Furthermore the Dred Scott court (Taney Court) ordered (yes, ordered) that the federal government proactively protect slavery. 

By this logic, no state, no people, no Congress could stop slavery, even by vote of the people themselves, nor by their legislature, nor by the US Congress.  Literally, the Taney Court, by one bizarre order, and turned the Declaration of Independence into a meaningless and cruel joke, and made it impossible to stop the spread of slavery not just into Kansas, but into any place. including the North,

Lincoln said slave owners deserve "to be kicked to death". Lincoln shouted -- shouted -- in one speech that "we won't let you" destroy the Union to spread slavery.

"We will be all one thing, or another".  All slave, or all free.

Slavery was going to die- - or the Union was going to die, and Lincoln was not going to let the Union die.  

Lincoln spoke over 1 million words, in over 3000 speeches. 

He was radical as hell -- and backed it up with radical action.  But you can't know that,  if you don't know the full story.


Baiting Lincoln as a "Worshipper of Niggers" who "wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers"

Then -- Lincoln had to speak.


The clip does NOT show Douglas screaming "Lincoln will have your daughters sleeping with Niggers" and running from side to side of the stage, as he actually did in the debates.  But it's as close was the truth comes for what we have.   

The people at the time not only got this "full monty" from Douglas, they got it from all those who were afraid of black males.  

It was not about slavery to most people -- even most people in the South were NOT pro slavery.  But you can count on one hand the number of people who were fine with your "daughters marrying Niggers" 

That was the issue -- it was the issue in debates, it was the issue in Southern and Northern papers, and speeches.

Southern leaders were very keen on pumping up the fear of black males.  And it worked/


f you do not know that people were still being killed even in Illinois, for being "too radical" for "Nigger equality"  you have no clue what Lincoln faced.

No one -- repeat -- no one in politics in Illinois could survive by being "for Nigger equality".     There were only a few "abolitionist"  politicians in the US, that is, those that advocated total equality. 

 It was political suicide, and Douglas won that election -- remember that, Douglas won the election,  by tying Lincoln to "Nigger equality".

So Lincoln tried very hard to separate "total equality"  with basic equality.   He was astonishingly powerful overall, he advocated total equality under the law.   And he handled the "social equality"  in a brilliant and powerful way -- see below.

Douglas spent a lot of time, during the debates, before the debates, and after the debates -- and at other places -- that Lincoln was going to  have your daughters sleep with, marry with, go to school with "Niggers".  Even before Douglas got up on the stage, he was hitting Lincoln with stories of Lincoln and white women and "Niggers".

Douglas saw fit to scream, to run from side to side of the stage to repeat, to hammer it home.   Why on earth then, have "historians" not at least mentioned this, much less shown the impact on voters!
Douglas impact WORKED. 

  His constant hammering of Lincoln and "Nigger rights" worked. See the papers of the day -- even in Lincoln's home town of Salem.  They detested Lincoln by the time Douglas was done with him!!   They had cherished Lincoln in person, but when Douglas (and others) ran this hate and fear mongering, they hated Lincoln.

No one told you that, did they?

That entire meme,  of "Niggers" taking white women,  was the real emotional issue of the day. North and South. Powerful, effective, and we live today with the after effects.

Yet is simply not shown at all, or if even mentioned, mentioned as an aside, far back in a book. 

It was not just a small throw away insult. It was very basic.

And no one ever told you. Ever.





Yes, Lincoln had to be careful what he said in response to all this hate and fear mongering -- none of which you knew existed until moments ago. 

You can, if you so desire, see Lincolns quotes, most of them taken from speeches like this out of context, and make Lincoln seem any way you please.

But read his FULL speech, not the edited bullshit. The full speech.  Lincoln is stunning for his powerful and effective appeals to the public to see the black race as human beings, as equal under the law. 

Lincoln more than once got angry -- shouting that slave owners deserve to be kicked to death. No one ever told you that, did they?

Did you ever hear that Lincoln said slave owners should be kicked to death?  

In fact, if you wanted to, you could take 10 Lincoln quotes and make him sound as radical as any one alive at the time. 

But those are not the quotes that many people know. 



Lincoln had a very special style of speaking. Over and over -- and over, and over, Lincoln would first seem to agree with the sentiment of the day.  Fear of black men sleeping with white women was one such fear -- Douglas screamed it to the audience.   Douglas did not just mention it, he screamed it, ran from side to side of the stage screaming it.

How did Lincoln handle that?  You can see in the video I present, though Douglas's "Nigger rant" as papers called it, has been whitewashed.   Yet you can still see how Lincoln used humor to respond.

If you want to, you can make Lincoln seem horrible by quoting part of his words. But you can't do that if you show Lincoln's FULL speech, in context. Which is exactly why those who trash Lincoln today will not show his full speech and show context, too.

Lincoln also shouted -- in Knoxville - that "We WONT LET YOU"  spread slavery and destroy the United States. Lincoln repeatedly accused the South (and he was right) of trying to push slavery into all of the US, as an inevitable result of Kansas Act and Dred Scott.  That was the basis of his entire position actually -- we will be all one thing, or all another.

We WONT LET YOU  screamed Lincoln in Knoxville Illinois, after a long debate about Dred Scott and Kansas Act.  

Most people today could not possibly understand the full text of Lincoln Douglas debate -- Lincoln goes into great detail about how slavery spread, and how the Dred Scott decision and Kansas Act made it all or nothing.  Lincoln did not create the "all slave or all free" dynamic -- that came from those two things.   And Lincoln was right. 

To yell, as Lincoln did uncharacteristically, that slave owners should be kicked to death, and that "WE WONT LET YOU"  spread slavery and thereby destroy the Union, is only amazing because you have not been told those quotes.

Almost every time he opened his mouth, from 1854 to 1860, was talking about slave power and it's plan, it's concerted effort, to spread slavery everywhere.  Kansas Act, then Dred Scott had made that a certainty.

People today don't even grasp that.  

Douglas just not just make up his "Nigger rants"  at last minute, of merely mention them. 

Douglas relied on Lincoln's decade long history of kicking slavery in the ass - including Lincoln in Congress trying to outlaw slavery in the land stolen from Mexico (see below) and Lincoln's attempts to get slavery outlawed in District of Columbia.

Douglas also relied -- and had in his possession - Lincoln's many speeches, printed out. In those speeches Lincoln is passionate for equality under the law for blacks, and according to Douglas, Lincoln "brings tears to your eyes about the plight of the Negro".

Douglas was not simply making shit up -- Douglas "had the goods" on Lincoln's  "obsession" with equality. Only Douglas made the white male voter in the crowd be afraid of Lincoln's "equality" because that meant "your daughter will sleep with Niggers, your wife will walk down the streets with them".

Like a painter, Douglas painted a picture of your wife, your daughter, sleeping with "Niggers".

And Douglas knew it, every time he did it. And he did this repeatedly, not just in the debates, but later in the campaign for President, Douglas did the same thing. Lincoln will have your daughters and wives be with Negroes  -- or Niggers, whatever term he wanted to use at the time.



Douglas started the "Nigger rants" before he got on stage -- telling the crowd he saw Lincoln that day with a black man and white woman in a carriage. 

Before Lincoln even stepped on the stage, thousands of people listening to him had been told he was a Negro Worshipper, that he would destroy the white race, that he was a traitor to the US from the Mexican War when he stood up to President Polk for spreading slavery.

They were told Lincoln would destroy the white race.

They were told Lincoln was close friends with Frederick Douglas, and that Frederick Douglass should be hung (Quincy paper).

No one every told you that. I know no one ever told you because I have looked in all the text books I could find, all the history books I could find at various university libraries, and not found such information.

I had to get the information from newspapers - some of them boasting of it -- at the time. Like the Quincy IL papers boasting that Frederick Douglass should be hung. Like Lincoln's hometown newspapers with the most vile hatred of a man they used to know and love -- till he proved himself "a black republican"  and for "Negro equality".

Negro equality meant sleeping with White Women-- did you know that?  And that is the hammer Douglas and other used on Lincoln time and time again.

And it worked. The hammer of hate worked. Don't forget that.

Hate works -- then and now. Fear works -- then and now. 

__________________________________________ Douglas was theatrical -- running from one side of the stage in Charleston, screaming that Lincoln will have your daughters sleep with "Niggers".

No one told you that, did they?

And every time he did this, crowds cheered. No one told you that, either, did they?

In Knoxville, the crowds actually cheered "Down with niggers"  back.

Douglas dug into this again, and again, and again. It was the major "knife"  Douglas used.  Lincoln called this the "knife"  and said Douglas had 12 "knives" in the air at one time.     Drastically cleaned up since then, and whitewashed, the "Nigger issue" was the big issue, the emotional issue, the fear and hate issue.

And Douglas knew it.  Remember -- Douglas won.

Nor was Douglas  alone  --in fact, though he was far more theatrical and bombastic (he ran from side to side of the stage, screaming this) -- he was in "good company".   This was the common refrain of others, and others in the South were even more coarse than Douglas.


This is what people today have no clue about -- 

After the newspapers called for the death of people who spoke against slavery...yes in Illinois, some newspapers called for the death of people who spoke against slavery

After crowds killed abolitionists -- yes in Illinois -

After newspapers vilified Lincoln as "Traitor"  and "blackest Republican" 

After crowds were told by the most powerful speakers of the day that  your daughters -- because of Lincoln and his "friends" -- will sleep with "Niggers"

Remember too -- people in Illinois, white people, could be killed and were killed, for being too radical for equality of the races. 

Abolitionist was considered by most Americans as dangerous -- not because they were against slavery, but because abolitionist would have your daughters and wife walk the streets with "Niggers"  and even marry them. 


Hate mongers and demagogues were the leading political forces of the day. Lincoln lost that Senate race, and would have lost president race two years later, but three "pro slavery" candidates ran, and Lincoln was the only one of the four against the spread of slavery.

There is no doubt that had Douglas only run against Lincoln in 1860, he would have won again.   He would have gotten Southern vote by 90%.  And nine Southern states didn't even allow Lincoln on the ballot. Douglas would have gotten 100% of the vote in those states.  As it was, Lincoln got 40% of the vote, against three others, all those three were fine about slavery spreading.


After that and much more LINCOLN HAD TO SPEAK...See how he did it....

 if you don't understand the hatred and fear of BLACK MALES  even in Illinois at the time (because of the hate demagogues)  you do not understand US history, or Lincoln or the Civil War.

Remember only white males voted.  And they hated and feared the idea black males would take "the women".   This is an ugly truth, but very much the issue of the day.  We should teach it as such, because Southern leaders and men like Douglas made it the issue.

 Not just to get elected- - Lincoln had to be careful to avoid getting killed sooner.  Other people were killed. Other people were beaten. Other people were terrorized --even in the North.

Most people did not want slavery.

There were very few people that wanted slavery -- slavery was actually controlled by relatively few number of people.

But to spread slavery the excuse used over and over -- we must spread slavery or we will be exterminated.

The hate and fear mongers had made the entire white male population aware  of the fear of black men taking white women. And it worked. 

You have not heard this, but people alive then were well aware of it. It was common knowledge.  Politicians, like Lincoln, shaped their words and actions accordingly.

The newspapers were saying it, in various ways.  The public sentiment was not pro-slavery. The public sentiment was "What happens if slavery ends".

It was not hidden -- then.

It is hidden and glossed over in our history books. 

Douglas certainly used it as the main issue, he did not run across stage and scream about other things. But he did run and scream about "Niggers"  taking your daughter to bed.

There is not a single US text book that we know of, that even mentions that Douglas shouted about Lincoln wanting your daughters to "sleep with Niggers".  Much less showing it was a central and basic issue in the debates!

The "trick" to getting elected  for Lincoln was to somehow get a majority of votes but not make the public afraid of you.  Lincoln never could do that.  He was not elected to Senate, and he only won the Presidency because pro-slavery folks had three candidates, and he alone was against the spread of slavery.


Did you know that Douglas even taunted the crowd -- told them he saw Lincoln with a "Negro" or "Nigger"  in a carriage with a white woman?  

You have to understand, such a charge, to be with a white woman who was with a black man, could get you and that black man killed.

At very least Douglas hoped so scare the shit out of Lincoln, and to make the crowds hate and fear men like Lincoln, and what would happen to your daughters if you elected him. 

In every debate Douglas tied Lincoln to Frederick Douglass.   Remember this -- remember -- Illinois papers had called for the death of Frederick Douglas.   In every debate Douglas tied Lincoln to Frederick Douglass.  And everyone know what Douglas was doing.  And why he tied Lincoln to Frederick Douglass.

You should know that, but no one ever told you. 

Lincoln knew.

Stephen A Douglas knew.

Stephen A Douglas, every time he tied Lincoln to Frederick Douglass, knew that. Every time. That is why Douglas agains and again went into the "Nigger rant" as Quincy papers called it.

Douglas won that race -- remember that too.

Stephen A Douglas did not merely  mention them in the same sentence -- he said both Lincoln and Frederick Douglass were with a WHITE WOMAN in the same carriage.

Because Stephen A Douglas knew what got people hateful -- that's why.   He knew what you do not -- that Quincy papers had called for Frederick Douglas to be executed some years before, for speaking against slavery.

See -- you need to know the full facts.  If you read the Lincoln Douglas debates, you would not possibly know how amazing it was that Stephen A Douglas taunted Lincoln by mentioning Frederick Douglass.   But Lincoln knew --

Quincy papers had called for the DEATH of Frederick Douglass.  And Stephen A Douglas had also taunted Lincoln as wanting your daughters to "sleep with Niggers".

These are the kinds of things you must know -- and our "historians" have never mentioned, much less made clear -- if you want to understand how damn amazing and brave Lincoln was to say what he did. Like in Peoria Lincoln said slave owners deserve "kicking, contempt, and death".


Radical enough for you?

"Only by distorting Lincoln, by not showing context and his full speeches, can anyone claim he was not radical as hell --  but more, LIncoln was effective, he got the job done.  Lincoln did have to parse words at times - wisely so.  He would have been killed a lot sooner had he not.  And what earthly good would that do?" 

Get Lincoln's FULL quotes and his FULL speeches. Stunningly powerful.  No one running for office in "the West"  (Lincoln was considered the "Western candidate then)  went where Lincoln did and said what Lincoln did 

Douglas was mild, in his accusations of Lincoln being "obsessed with equality for the Nigger.


 "Just because I do not want a colored woman for a wife, does not mean I need to have her for a slave.  I don't need her for either. I can just let her alone.  In certain respects she is not my equal, any more than I am Judge Douglas's equal in certain respect.   But in her right to eat the bread she made with her own hands, she is my equal and the equal to any man." 


Lincoln eventually got a bullet to the brain, after his speech about voting rights for blacks.  People who hate Lincoln today mock him -- claim he was not for voting rights for blacks.  The bullet in Lincoln's brain is testimony to how foul and deceptive those lying bastards are.



Lincoln's effort to end slavery in Washington DC 1848-- right after he stood up to President Polk on causing war  in Mexico for the benefit of slave power. Strange -- almost no "history majors" I have ever met even know Lincoln proposed ending slavery in District of Columbia.  Why?

Lincoln also tried 40 times to stop slavery from spreading in the land US stole from Mexico.  Most history teachers would be surprised to learn Southern leader Henry Clay agreed with Lincoln -- US conjured up a war against Mexico so they could steal land to spread slavery.  That was Henry Clay's insight, and he knew what the hell he was talking about. 



It was smart politics -- it worked. Douglas won that election. 

And it worked in the South.  The hate and fear mongering was astonishing, and we do not cover it in any meaningful way in our text books.  It's essentially long removed from national memory, and stupidly not addressed adequately by historians today.

To that the crowd would yell "DOWN WITH NIGGERS" .



Newspapers, even in Lincoln's "home town" of Salem Illinois called him a traitor and "the blackest Republican." They had loved Lincoln in person.  But after Douglas got done with Lincoln, tying him to "Niggers" -- Lincoln was hated even in Salem.

No one every told you that, did they?

And that is why Lincoln lost. 





Lincoln did write a public letter to Horace Greeley about the importance of Union.   As Lincoln explained at the time, the letter was to the people of Kentucky.  Greeley was well aware of what Lincoln was doing.

In his letter, Lincoln said if he could save the Union without freeing any slave, he would. If he could save the Union by freeing all the slaves, he would.

He said saving the UNION was his "paramount" goal.  

And Lincoln wisely did this. If he had not succeeded with the letter, Kentucky would join the Confederacy.   As Lincoln said, he hoped God was on our side, but he needed Kentucky. If Kentucky joins the confederacy, the South wins the Civil War, and as promised by Southern leaders, slavery spreads into all of the West (See Southern War Ultimatums).

Lincoln's words kept Kentucky out of the Confederacy.    If Lincoln had another 400,000 Union soldiers, he would not need to write the letter.  He could have kept Kentucky by force -- by war.

Lincoln wisely wrote the letter.



As Lincoln said repeatedly -- and correctly -- only one will survive. The Union will survive, or slavery will survive. They can not co-exist.  This is the famous "House Divided Speech". 

Read the speech!  Lincoln was respectful --he was not doing sabre rattiling, he was not trying to start a war.  Southern leaders heard about his speech and said it was a declaration of war!

Stephen Douglas said Lincoln's "House Divided" speech was going to start a war!  Only one will survive, slavery or Union.

Lincoln was even asked by his friends to modify that speech -- DO NOT say slavery will end or the Union will end.  Lincoln refused to change his speech.

No one told you that.

When Lincoln said slavery will end or Union would end -- he was not only right, but when he later talked about Union (like the in letter to Greeley) Lincoln had already said, dozens of times, the Union meant slavery will end. 

Lincoln's House Divided speech was well known in Kentucky.  But when he wrote the letter to Greeley, that gave Union supporters in Kentucky enough time to keep Kentucky in the Union, when it was almost going for the Confederacy.

Lincoln's plan worked. His letter worked.  If you would rather have Lincoln send 400,000 men to Kentucky and have years of killing there -- write Lincoln a letter and tell him he was stupid. He should have had a huge war in Kentucky and let it join the Confederacy and let the South win the war.

Probably the smartest letter anyone ever sent, in US history, was the letter Lincoln sent to "Greely".   It was actually a letter to the people of Kentucky.


Lincoln was able (by humor and brilliant speeches) to handle Douglas's repeated taunts.

Lincoln was able to stand up (see the video) and nullify much of the hatred by humor.  It's likely others would not have been able to do that. 
Sadly  Lincoln's use of  humor was not enough to keep the bullet out of his brain, after John Wilkes Booth heard his speech about voting rights for blacks, the night before Booth shot Lincoln.




The hate and fear pumped up in the South was stunning --Lincoln will "exterminate the white race" 

Douglas was not quite that shrill -- but almost  -- Lincoln wants your daughters to "sleep with Niggers". 

It worked.  People do not understand this -- hate and fear mongering work.   In politics, it's golden, because it works.

But there is a price to pay for hate and fear mongering thatworks.

It leads directly to wars and killing. 

 The hate and fear mongers are always political.   And they compete to be the most hateful, the most fear mongering.  Douglas had to go "full monty"  -- be extreme as hell, so he was.  To get the public that hateful and fearful, he had to outdo the others who might try the same thing. 

Douglas was over the top -- from the cannons he had fired off getting off the train, to his paid supporters screaming and cheering, and paid trolls in the audience responding "down with Niggers"  it worked. 

But the politicians like Douglas and Toombs and 100 others -- they do not go fight.  They stay home and get rich and stay safe.  It happens time after time.

It's the suckers who kill and die. The suckers who believe the hate mongers - they die, and they kill.

  It was certainly that way in the South. After a while, Southern soldiers deserted by 65% in 1864, and 90% in 1865.   They don't teach that either -- the massive desertions by Southern soldiers.    


When folks today wonder why so many in the South (at first, before the massive desertions).

Southern leaders bragged they were killing to spread slavery (see link below).

But Southern men  did not fight for slavery as much as they fought  believed  "our daughters would sleep with Niggers"a very crude but motivating hammer Southern leaders, editors, and even Northern politicians like Douglas particularly used. 


This hatred - pumped up for political purposes -- had profound effects after the war in reconstruction, and the hatred has continued in various forms to this day.



Lincoln -- and anyone like him -- would cause the "extermination of the white race"  according to Robert Toombs, repeating a meme that brought crowds to their feet. 

Crowds cheered speeches like this -- did you know that?  

As Francis Blair pointed out at the time, the men who spoke like this on stage did NOT speak like this off stage.  But on stage, to get the crowds to cheer, according to Francis Blair (who knew them all and was there) they did speak like this.



Did you know Lincoln stood up to President Polk, when Lincoln was a Congressman 1847-1848, and accused him (correctly) of starting the Mexican War for the benefit of slave power?   See more below.   He not only fought slavery by accusing Polk, he also tried forty times - FORTY TIMES -- to then stop slave power from spreading slavery into the land the US just stole by war.

And he did not stop there.  Then Lincoln tried to end slavery in the District of Columbia.   Did you know that?  All this is basic, very basic.   And that too cost Lincoln.   


   Even in his adopted home town of Salem Illinois, where before people had loved him, now Lincoln was despised by some, hated by others.  Even 12 years later, Salem Illinois newspapers recalled Lincoln being "a traitor"  called him "the blackest republican for standing up to Polk on the Mexican War. 

  See these newspaper clipping about Lincoln being a "traitor"  and "black republican"  and "abolitionist" for his decades of being against slavery. 


Francis Blair, former slave owner,  knew everyone that matters- - Lincoln, Douglas, Davis, Atchison, Toombs, Stephens. He made it clear, the hate mongers pumped up the fear and hate against Lincoln -- even in Illinois.

 And it worked. 


The hate mongering  worked.  The crowds cheered -- the newspapers warned the public of the dangers of freed blacks walking the streets, raping your women, being on juries.

We will have to compete with blacks for jobs, our schools will have black students and our daughters will be with black men.

The hate mongering would end in much death -- the Civil War.

Lincoln's death is very much included --  the hate pumped up people North and South.  

 Southern men were not all pro-slavery, in fact Hinton Helper said if slavery was put to a vote in the South, it would be outlawed.  But Southern men did believe, because they were told 100 times in 100 different ways, that black men would take the white women. 

Lincoln was the "head of a party"  that would make your daughters sleep with Niggers -- this was the basic hatred of Lincoln,  and it got that way thanks to hate demagogues North and South. 


Remember - these were not some nuts in a bar, some shrill unusual hate demagogues no one listened to. These were the very top men in America -- Stephen A Douglas, Robert Toombs, David Rice Atchison,  and the exact same message was delivered in "open letters"  by Southern governors to the people.

Even Guelzo seemed blissfully unaware that newspapers in Illinois --in cities that supported Douglas --  called for the execution of Frederick Douglass for speaking against slavery.  

And the same newspapers that call for Frederick Douglass to be executed for speaking against slavery in Kansas -- surprise surprise -- were for Stephen A Douglas in the US Senate race.

Douglas screaming about "Lincoln's obsession for the Nigger" worked.  And it would eventually help get Lincoln a bullet to the brain. 



The violence promised -- and delivered -- to Northern abolitionist was very real.  Did you know even Northern newspapers called for Frederick Douglass to be executed for going to Kansas and speaking against slavery?

Quincy Ill newspapers -- see this.....

Douglas (Stephen A) harped on this at length. You need to read his full speeches. Douglas blasted Lincoln for thinking blacks were even full human beings -- he got the crowds to cheer "down with niggers".

Lincoln had to go to Quincy -- and other Illinois cities -- and debate -- in front of crowds who included folks who would as soon kill an abolitionist as look at them.  Not because they were pro-slavery, but because the public was told repeatedly men like Lincoln would "have your daughters  sleep with Niggers"

Unless you grasp that, unless you know that well, you can not make sense of not just Lincoln, and his speeches, you can not understand US history, or the Civil War. 

Our "historians" (except for Allen Guelzo) have essentially whitewashed this basic dynamic from our national awareness.   

  Even Guelzo mentions it towards the back of one book, and treats Lincoln's responses as an artful clever dodge on the debate stage. He does not treat it as something basic in American life, and what Lincoln and the US had to face.

Lucky Lincoln -- or lucky USA?

Lincoln not only had to speak in a way that gave him some chance of getting elected, he had to speak in a way that did not get him a bullet to the brain sooner.  Lincoln used humor - and his amazing ability to speak to the people in a way that made them change their minds.

People came to Lincoln's speeches often expecting to hate him for being "for Niggers".  Because that is what they were told.

They left his speeches recognizing humanity in the black race, and the danger of Southern efforts to spread slavery.


Toombs was the Secretary of State for the Confederacy, and he spoke in much the same way, saying much the same things, as other Southern leaders at the time. Lincoln will destroy the white race. 

Crowds cheered him too.   Remember that -- crowds cheered such talk.  Hate and fear mongers have always gotten crowds to cheer hate and fear speech.

The US Civil War was no exception.  

You don't know Lincoln's amazing stand against the Mexican War -- because it was done for slave power.

The country did not forget Lincoln's stand against Mexican War, and Douglas brought it up repeatedly in the Lincoln Douglas debates. 

And it worked --like the "Nigger rants" - like saying Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with "Niggers"  it worked.

Lincoln called President Polk on this land grab, even though it's often suicide politically to be against a war. That was in 1846, and Lincoln was already doing all he could possibly do (given public sentiment) to stop slavery. 

Public sentiment was very much in favor of expanding the boundaries of the US -- and slave power was even more eager to expand slavery territory.  The Mexican War was part of that violence to spread slavery, and to get more land to do so. 

In 1847-48.  Long before the Civil War, Lincoln was fighting slavery.

Public sentiment was NOT against slavery -

Public sentiment was NOT against slavery -- in fact, most whites in the North didn't care one way or another.   But they sure as hell did not want black men around their white women.   That's an ugly, but very real truth, and played the central role in  the Civil War.

The South never fought to keep slavery.  Southern leaders were killing to spread slavery -- see their speeches.   But the average white male in the South didn't even like slavery. Many hate slavery and had moved out.

But they did not want black men around.

One of Lincoln's amazing accomplishments was that Lincoln changed what the white public cared about, more than any other white political figure.

Only the author of "Uncle Tom" changed people's perceptions more. Harriet Beecher Stowe.   


There are stunningly ugly parts about US history and Civil War -- widespread rape of slave women, torture of preachers who preached against slavery --gouging out the eyes and cutting off the heads of slaves.



Men were killed, tortured, and beaten IN THE NORTH during Lincoln's political life for speaking too bluntly for equality of the races.  Did you know that, or not?

  US Senator was beaten almost to death on the Senate floor-- you may know that already -- Charles Sumner.

But did you know Stephen A Douglas sat ten feet away laughing as Sumner was beaten?  No, you did not know.  

The newspapers at the time reported Douglas was joyous as Sumner was beaten -- and in a drawing of the beating, Douglas was shown in the background laughing.  

I show you the drawing, and Douglas, highlighted. And here is the newspaper clip....

Did you know Stephen A Douglas told Sumner, the day before he was beaten almost to death, that he should be "kicked like a dog"?

Just because you never knew this -- Lincoln sure did, every anti-slavery speaker had to be careful where he spoke, and who he spoke to. 

The edited quote here seems to prove Lincoln was "as racist as anyone," right?

You must get his full speech, in which Lincoln then undermines that very statement --  refutes it, and goes on to say any black person is equal in natural rights to any white person.  

So you need to get his full speeches, and the context -- context being the hatred and fear pumped up by men like Stephen A Douglas, Toombs, and a thousand others. 


It serves no purpose to teach the ghastly horrors -- but we should teach the basics truths, best we can, about what led to the Civil War. 

Stupidly we have not yet done so.



Every time Lincoln got up to speak (and he gave over 3,000 speeches) he had to avoid getting hated - even assassinated - by the fringe radical part of the pro-slavery folks. 

They called Lincoln radical and obsessed for equality for a reason -- they knew his actions and his full speeches.  Like his speech about slave owners deserve to be kicked to death


There were also more radical speakers than Lincoln -- but they refused to go where Lincoln went, and did not run for President or Senator.  

The abolitionist speakers were hated by many -- even by people who opposed slavery often had no use for "abolitionist"  precisely because abolitionist were tied to the notion white women would sleep with black men.


Not the blunt, ugly, but honest approach, that's for sure.



If anyone could trash Lincoln, it would be Frederick Douglass who sometimes blasted Lincoln in his newspaper, North Star, for not being militant enough, and eager enough, for war to end slavery.

But Douglass knew - and you do not -- what Lincoln faced. 

Yet Douglass said that, all things considered, Lincoln was "radical, swift, zealous and determined"  to end slavery.  

The Cornerstone speeches

          The Cornerstone speeches

The Cornerstone speeches 

Alexander Stephens gave a series of speeches --most history teacher assume there was only one. It was a series of speeches to crowds that cheered. Stephens was on a speaking tour, just before the fighting started, bragging that the Confederacy was based on "the great truth" that blacks are inferior beings.

He also bragged that the Confederacy was based on punishing the black race for biblical sins. Let me repeat that.  He boasted the Confederacy was based on -- created for -- God to punish the black race. 

No one batted an eye -- this was a meme by slave owners all along. Blacks were being punished -- or civilized as some said -- for God.



It takes a special kind of crazy to boast of punishing an entire race, and to justify torture.   But then, Southern leaders had, over the years, gone more and more extreme  in this regard, as they had to i


Mostly our "historians" seem enamored over BS.  There is always plenty of room -- chapters or the entire book -- of bullshit, and little basic information. You don't get much more basic than Southern War Ultimatums and Southern leaders long repeated speeches about killing to spread slavery and how they created their country to punish blacks for biblical sins.

  Regardless of the reason, only a few historians even mention any of this, and when they do, it's on towardsthe back page 178, in a throw away paragraph, on a throw away page, in a throw away chapter.   Essentially they may as well not put it in at all -- and most "historians"  did not put it in anywhere at all.

No room, apparently. So the basic emotional and hateful weapon used by the South and by Lincoln's enemies in the North is virtually unknown by now generations of Americans.

"Historians" like Bruce Catton and James McPherson spent more space and time covering Confederate belt buckles than describe or seem to even be aware of what Lincoln actually faced. 

You can't understand Lincoln, or what was going on in the USA, North and South, unless you understand this.  __________________________________________

We are not taught any of that.  None.  Yet that was the actual and effective way Southern leaders not only spread slavery -- but it was what Lincoln and the world (not just US) had to deal with.  Violent oppressive men who claim God told them to enslave -- even that God told them to punish (torture) blacks.

And our "historians" give us drivel like " ""middle rank Southerners believed there were advantages of capital controlling labor"

Furthermore if you major in history, you better be able to give your teacher the bullshit. Most history teachers swim a pool of bullshit, but then so do most "historians" including McPherson, Foner, and Catton.

As long as "historians" give us bullshit, we will not only not learn about what led to the Civil War, we will have no ability to correct our mistakes of the past.   It's time we learned who did what -- and why -- leading to the Civil War.  


maybe they knew?

When some Southern  soldiers were captured early in the war -- they said they fought because the "Yankees"  were going to have their daughters sleep with "Niggers."

Gee -- I wonder why they got that idea? 

 The point is, the propaganda against Lincoln, against anyone who dared be against the spread of slavery -- was effective. It worked.  It also led to hate and fear of black race that continues today. 






There are reasons Southern and Northern leaders claimed Lincoln was "radical" and "extreme" for equality.  In fact, Lincoln was called "the worst sort of abolitionist" -- do not believe him, they said. He has said the Union had to end, or slavery had to end, and this, said Southern leaders "WAS A DECLARATION OF WAR


If you were taught the facts about Mexican War you would know US did invade Mexico, did start a war, and did it to gain territory to spread slavery.    Even Southern slave owner leaders said so (Henry Clay, notably). 

Lincoln failed to stop the war to spread slavery - - but he then  tried 40 times -- 40 times -- to stop the actual spread of slavery into the land just stolen by the Mexican War.   His enemies knew that. I doubt anyone ever told you.  I doubt most history teachers have a clue of either fact. 

Lincoln's  enemies also knew Lincoln pushed into Congress, not long after the Mexican war, a bill to abolish slavery in District of Columbia.

In books about Lincoln and slavery -- you'd think the authors could find a page or two -- or even a paragraph -- about Lincoln's amazing efforts to stop the Mexican War, to call out President Polk on his efforts to help slavers spread slavery, and then try to end slavery in District of Columbia.  This was part of a pattern of Lincoln's day to day, almost hour by hour, efforts to first stop the spread of slavery so that slavery would die, rather then the United States and the Declaration of Independence die.

It was one or the other, said Lincoln essentially.

 And repeatedly Lincoln spoke about the impact of this upon the world, not just US. If the slavers could force slavery into the rest of the country by Dred Scott and Kansas Act, and officially declare certain races as not human beings (The Dred Scott decision did in fact declare the black race as not human beings, not persons),  the that could well be the end of government of the people, by the people. 

 When Henry Clay said the US invaded Mexico to spread slavery (and many others said it too) then the US invaded Mexico to spread slavery.  
4) Lincoln's enemies knew that Lincoln said slave owners deserve nothing but "kicking and death". 

Instead of chosing ten out of context and distorted quotes by Lincoln -- why not go by the ten most amazingly powerful speeches and letters by Lincoln where he was radical as possible -- suggesting death to slave owners, for one example?

Or here is a thought -- go by his actions.  His full speeches were amazing -- "Lincoln blasted the bejesus" out of slavery and the South's vile history of spreading slavery by violence and means "foul and more foul"  like the Kansas Act and Dred Scott.


Most people -- even many "history teachers"  think slavery was ever voted for  in any state in an honest way. It never was.  As Lincoln explained correctly in his letters, slavery was ALWAYS spread by killing and violence, ALWAYS maintained by the same means.  Everything about slavery was violent. What we call "Trouble in Kansas"  was the South's campaign to send over 1000 men there in 1856 to kill and torture those who even spoke publically against slavery -- all the while calling it "a perfect right to decide their domestic institutions themselves".

The Kansas Act -- which is idiotically and absurdly taught today as being an effort to "resolve the slavery issue peacefully"  was the most violent effort to do just and precisely the opposite.

It takes a special kind of stupid 
to call the Kansas Act
an effort to settle slave issue peacefully.

5) Lincoln's enemies knew he spoke of violence against those who would attempt to destroy this country by pushing slavery in the manner of Kansas Act and Dred Scott.  No one told you that, either. 

5) Lincoln's enemies knew Lincoln said dozens  of times, slavery had to end -- or the Union would end. Essentially one would live, one would die. He was not fooling around, he was deadly serious. 

And he was right, only one could survive, because of Dred Scott and Kansas Act. 

That's why so many people today are stupid about Lincoln and slavery.  They don't know what the hell Kansas Act and Dred Scott were -- though Lincoln explained it many times.


House Divided  

"It will be all one thing, or all another" 

Stunningly, though Lincoln's House Divided Speech is taught or at least mentioned in all US schools, stupidly we don't take Lincoln at his word.  

Southern leaders sure did. In fact, they agreed.  They made sure that was the case -- either slavery spread to the Pacific, or there would be war. Southern War Ultimatums boil down to that.

Slavery will spread to all of the US -- or slavery dies.   Only one thing will survive (because of the "machinery of Kansas Act and Dred Scott). 

Lincoln (and others) saw this immediately -- Kansas Act was a violent ruse to spread slavery where 90% of the citizens were against it.   When the ruse did not work as planned (because KS citizens fought back) the South went as we would say "nuclear"  and put through Dred Scott decision. 

From that point on, the Union had to end, or slavery had to end. Given the war ultimatums and killing sprees, given that Southern leaders were by now fully entrenched in spreading slavery by their speeches and pledges to Southern voters, they could not back down.  
Lincoln was not kidding. And he was correct.  Furthermore, Southern leaders agreed with him on that. 

In fact Lincoln's "all one thing or another" -- all slave or all free -- speeches, were used against him time and time again.  . One would live, one would die -- and he "did not expect" the Union to die.

Lincoln expected, he left unsaid, but clearly implied - that slavery would die. Keeping the Union together meant the death of slavery, because slavery could not spread in the Union. It could only spread by violence if the Union was torn apart. 

It takes a special kind of stupid to ignore Lincoln's repeated and most famous speeches leading up to the Civil War.

Lincoln shouted, in an unchartaristic manner for him,  "WE SHANT LET YOU" destroy the Union, in his Knox speech.   At the time, the South was promising endless violence to spread slavery (See Southern War Ultimatums 1856).  In the Knox speech Lincoln essentially gave that a big FU.

The famous "House Divided Speech"  was entirely about this -- one thing would survive - the Union or slavery. Keeping the Union together meant one thing to Lincoln -- slavery could not spread.

It would help for folks today to read the newspapers of the time, North and South. They were filled with stories of violence, killings -- to spread slavery.  In the very same New York papers that reported Lincolns speech now called "House Divided" were stories about the killings to spread slavery into Kansas.  Unless you know Southern leaders sent killers to Kansas, and were actively killing and torturing to spread slavery there and beyond, you really can not make sense of Lincoln at all, and certainly you can't understand his House Divided Speech.



Only by destroying the Union could slavery spread.  This was not simply Lincoln's guess - this was the promise of the Southern leaders. We shall have the spread of slavery into Kansas or we shall have war.  Learn Southern leaders own war ultimatums.

  It's astonishing that this most basic agreement by Southern leaders and Lincoln is ignored now.  Southern leaders made it very clear, by sending  paid killers to Kansas in 1856, and by their own official declarations and speeches.

If they could not spread slavery into Kansas and beyond in the Union, they would indeed spread slavery into Kansas and beyond, outside the Union.

How on earth this is a surprise to anyone alive today, who claims to know the history of the Civil War, is an indictment of the lazy and inept way we teach the Civil War. For some reason our "historians" and text books have been too cowardly to expose what Southern leaders were bragging about and doing at the time, in candid terms.


 Lincoln's enemies  knew Lincoln's full speeches were amazing and effective -- because his speeches explained the vile perversion of laws, of religion, and of human decency in the South's violent efforts to spread slavery.

Lincoln's enemies knew Lincoln was right -- they were spreading slavery by violent and foul means.  They didn't even deny that -- instead, they had to attack him by claiming he would destroy the white race, and or make your daughters sleep with "Niggers".


Yes this is an ugly thing - Southern leaders were obsessed with the idea black men being free to "be with your wife"  and "sleep with your daughters".   Over and over this was the central emotional issue of speeches against Lincoln, including during the Lincoln Douglas debates.

Why not show that -- Southern leaders were proud of it! 

It's a damn shame we don't teach this.
It's basic -
It's what actually went on
It's what actually mattered. 


They knew that Lincoln's life was devoted -- almost every day from 1846 on, toward fighting slavery. You may not know that - but they did. 

  They well remembered Lincoln's efforts to try to end slavery --starting in District of Columbia, submitting this legislation to outlaw slavery there. 


It was no secret to Lincoln's enemies that Lincoln went where others dare not go (see below) and spoke against slavery even in Kansas, where it had been against the law to speak publicly against slavery.

They knew that newspapers, even in Illinois, called for the death of black people who spoke against slavery in Kansas. 

Lincoln had to speak in cities where the newspapers called for THE DEATH of blacks who spoke against slavery. Let that sink in.

These were not Southern papers I show here, they are from cities were Lincoln travelled, and knew well, and had to speak in debates there. 

Remember, they called for the DEATH of a black man who dared go to Kansas and speak against slavery, because it was against the law there to do so.  Let me repeat that, they called for the DEATH of a black man who went to Kansas and spoke against slavery.
You didn't know that -- and it's not your fault. It's rather typical of the amazing things we simply are not told, and is not taught, in US schools. 


Lincoln was probably the most hated man in America for a while.

He was hated because, according to Southern leaders, he would


He was hated and feared by many in the North because he


Many people people believed those who claimed "Niggers" will take white women.  It's an awful truth, but no one thought it was so ugly at the time.  That's how it was -- politically anyone against slavery had the same problem.  But Lincoln was so well known, largely because he stood up to President Polk and tried to end slavery in District of Columbia in the mid 1840's - that he was a special target of men like Jefferson Davis, Robert Toombs, and Stephen A Douglas.


Lincoln -- who always said public sentiment means everything -- was very careful how he fought back against these charges.  He would say things like "I never said I was for perfect equality --"  but the overall speech was amazing and powerful FOR equality under the law.

Almost every Lincoln speech he used the same technique -- he would SEEM to agree somewhat with a sentiment of the day in one sentence -- but then Lincoln would "flip"  and essentially destroy that sentiment he seemed to be against.   

You could call it "the Lincoln shuffle".  And it was very effective -- it changed a lot of minds.  Not enough for Lincoln to win that election, but enough to make Lincoln extremely well known, and the candidate for POTUS in 1860.

You can see the technique Lincoln used in this video -- it does not show Douglas's "Nigger rants" but it is faithful to the words and meanings of both men, and shows Lincoln technique to seem to agree with a prejudice, then destroy it. 


Running side to side on the debate platform....

Douglas words (Nigger, etc) were cleaned up by almost every historian later.  The above video clip from a 1939 movie shows both men's positions, but drastically cleaned up the language.

 Douglas hit the "Nigger rants"  as Quincy papers called then,  very hard -- in fact, in Charleston newspapers told of Douglas running from side to side of the stage screaming that Lincoln wanted your daughters to sleep with "Niggers".

On no other topic was Douglas so loud and emotional -- he was a bit like modern day Alex Jones declaring Obama and Hillary Clinton are "of the devil"  and "smell like sulfur".

That was the political atmosphere Lincoln had to deal with.

He was  hated -- even in Illinois -- by many for being a "Negro Worshipper"  and made fun of in Illinois and New York papers for insisting "dumb negroes"  should be equal under the law like white folks.

Lincoln in this cartoon is shown declaring a handicapped black person is "superior" intellectually over the white race.  

Douglas was known, even in the Senate, for using the word "Nigger"  after 1854, when he and Atchison passed the Kansas Act.  In fact the man that told Douglas not to say "Nigger" on Senate floor, was beaten almost to death on the Senate floor just a few days later.

Bet you didn't know that, did you? 


Lincoln repeatedly said there was no need for war -- he had no authority to end slavery where it was. Slavery was vile, and it would eventually destroy the United States by spreading, like the "cancer"  it was.   The Supreme Court had ruled- - and Lincoln was bound by that rule -- to respect the slavery laws.  Only the people of the states- - 2/3 of the states-- could change the Constitution.  

Lincoln was against the spread of slavery by force, yes. But that was "intolerable"  said Southern leaders.  Stopping the spread of slavery would destroy the white race. 



"No one ever left a Lincoln speech confused about anything-- slavery had to go, or the Union had to go, and Lincoln was going to make sure slavery went, and the Union stayed."

But now we are told "Lincoln didn't really give a shit" or even "Lincoln was at best a  bystander" and had no intention to end slavery.

Others say Lincoln was not against slavery.

Stunningly some insist Lincoln just "used" slavery as an issue to get political advantage -- a hilarious and stupid view, because it was actually dangerous to do what Lincoln did, to go where he did, and say what he did.  Lincoln  is lucky (see below)  that he was not killed sooner than he was.  His trip to Kansas in 1859 came after (remember that after) Southern leaders made it a crime to speak against slavery in Kansas.

As far as we know, no major US historian has seen fit to even mention -- in a clear way -- how amazing it was for Lincoln go to go Kansas and speak.  Nor have any even mentioned how Douglas taunted Lincoln and all but urged any violent man in the audience to attack Lincoln.

Despite the dangers,    Lincoln was a bad ass -- his full speeches are amazing, and powerful.  He used wit and humor effectively, or he probably would have been beaten like Sumner was.

And of course Lincoln was eventually killed.

You can take the out of context quotes if you want, ignore his full speeches, ignore his actions, and mostly, ignore what was going on --  and for some reason people love to do that.  

But given the full set of facts,  Lincoln's actions and full speeches, he was one of a kind. Sure others did speak against slavery -- but no one did as effectively as Lincoln, or go where he did when he did, debating the most powerful speaker of the day, who shouted to the crowds that Lincoln wants your daughters to "sleep with Niggers".


And people were killed in Illinois and elsewhere for being "too much a Nigger lover". Our "historians" should tell us that candidly.

  The dead included Lovejoy, killed not far from one of the Lincoln Douglas debate sites years before.  Lincoln named Lovejoy's brother as Attorney General during the Civil War.   (It's possible that Stephen A Douglas's business partner, the one who got him to pass the Kansas Act, led the killers to kill Lovejoy. David Atchison, US Senator, led killers later into Kansas.  The method of killing and some of the actions by killers in Kansas led by Atchison, are the same used to kill Lovejoy)  

Stephen A Douglas - besides shouting that Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with "Niggers" made damn sure the public knew Lincoln was friends with Lovejoy.   Douglas had a history of pumping up the hatred, and then smiling as his political opponents were physically beaten, like Charles Sumner.

No one told you that Douglas was essentially urging violence upon Lincoln during the debates, but that is exactly what he was doing.  Lincoln had to be very careful how he answered Douglas's charges.

But you are never told any of this -- not one word -- in any US history book on the high school level, and as far as we know, none on the college level either. It's not some grand conspiracy to keep this from you, it's just stupidly repeating bullshit they got from others.



Even supposed "historians" like Eric Foner will insist stupidly that Lincoln "was nothing special about slavery."

Nothing special?

Who else did what Lincoln did, went where Lincoln did, and was as effective as Lincoln?   

Who else stood up to President Polk and called him out about killing to spread slavery?

Who else tried 40 times to stop the spread of slavery into the land stolen by the war against Mexico?

Who else did nothing but travel around the country after Kansas Act and warn of the plot (he called it "the machinery') to spread slavery to the rest of the USA?

Did you even know there was an effort, boasted about by Southern leaders at the time, to spread slavery to the rest of the US?  Very basic, but those speeches and documents (we show you) have always been available to anyone.  Why not refer to what the South boasted of -- and did. 

Lincoln sure knew, and Lincoln exposed it. 

We will go further into this later -- but oddly, almost bizarrely -- "historians" like Foner, Catton and McPherson do not even mention, or mention as if in passing,  Lincoln's stunningly powerful attacks against slavery 1846 on, including Lincoln's radical struggle against President Polk's effort to spread slavery by the Mexican war, literally stealing land by killing to facilitate the spread of slavery.

Mostly the "historians" seem to refuse to show how vile and violent Southern leaders were, killing to spread slavery and boasting of it.  And then vowing to keep killing until slavery "was spread to the Pacific".



Specifically as Congressmen, Lincoln challenged Polk (or anyone) to show him the "spot" where Mexicans attacked the United States. The US was not attacked,  the US had created a fictional story of Mexicans attacking US soldiers as pretext for an invasion into Mexico and excuse to steal their land.

And Lincoln dared anyone to show him the spot.  Yes, the Mexicans did fight -- later, after the US attacked them.  The Mexican military was weak, and the US had little trouble winning that war. 

Lincoln essentially accused Polk of creating a war to spread slavery into more land. What's more, Lincoln was exactly right.

Lincoln could not stop the war to spread slavery  (Mexican War) though he tried -- but he did try to outlaw slavery into the land just stolen.  Forty times he tried that.  

Lincoln's  efforts were rejected. Obviously the US was not going to outlaw slavery in the land they (via slave power) just stole to spread slavery. 

Lincoln knew that, but tried anyway. If the US took the land because they were attacked, why then insist slavery could go into that land?  The obvious answer -- that's why they attacked Mexico in the first place, to spread slavery. 

Before he left Congress, then  tried to end slavery in District of Columbia.  Lincoln's "proposal for abolition in DC"  is below.

It's nearly certain most of you never heard of this, much less in context of Lincoln's  efforts to stop US from stealing lands to spread slavery from Mexico. 

By the way --Stephen A Douglas participated in beating a man nearly to death himself, bet you didn't know that?

And Stephen A Douglas told Charles Sumner, shortly before he was beaten on the Senate floor, that he should be "beaten like a dog
Remember that.


Jefferson Davis insisted slaves were "the most contented laborers on earth"  and only the lies about freedom caused them to not be happy laborers as God intended.

Did you know the basic spiel by Southern leaders was that GOD designed slavery, and slaves were happy with God's plan.   It was only the lies from the North, if the slaves would hear of them, that made slaves unhappy.

It was a matter of life and death, they said.  What if slaves learn that people claim slavery is evil?   They will "be discontented" -- seriously,  if slaves ever hear sermons or speeches against slavery, they will be "discontented."

Can't have slaves "discontented" now can we? 

 Never mind they were torturing slaves who dared tried to escape, and burning men to death who fought back against slavery.  It's a truism of human nature - when you torture, kill, oppress, enslave, you must must must justify it.  

So they justified it, and blamed anyone else for slaves being "disconnected".

Seriously,  Southern newspaper said Satan was "the first abolitionist".   Satan was against slavery. God was for it.  The Texas Declaration of Secession said if you were against slavery, you were against GOD.

Does that sound like someone who "didn't care" about slavery?

You can read entire books about Lincoln and not read anything about these amazing early efforts about our 16th President.   If Lincoln had died in 1850, his actions up to that point were amazing in his boldness to battle slavery, with clear goal to put slavery "on road to extinction".  Ironically Lincoln gets little credit for how stunning he was in his efforts to stop slavery, and get rid of it, early.


Kansas Act, passed in 1854, changed everything because that and Dred Scott meant slavery would go everywhere, North South and West, or the USA would fall apart, and we would have a small US, surrounded in the West and South by a slave nation.

If the US failed -- if the "experiment" of the Declaration of Independence failed, Lincoln asserted that meant lasting damage, perhaps forever, that "government of the people, by the people" would vanish from the earth. 

If slave power could push slavery into Kansas and the West, when 90% of the citizens of Kansas voted against slavery (as they did) and if a few men could declare blacks are not human beings but property (as they did in Dred Scott) then there was little hope for mankind in the future.  

You may think that is hype of overstatement by Lincoln, but it was not.  Lincoln thought -- and spoke of, wrote about -- how toxic to mankind it would be to have Kansas Act and Dred Scott, then the violence by the South, push slavery west and North and destroy the Declaration of Independence as the South had done (The Declaration of Independence was effectively declared unconstitutional by the Dred Scott decision).

 Lincoln became more radical after 1850, not less, and he became more radical BECAUSE of the Dred Scott vile decision, and Kansas Act. 

  Yes he had to parse words at times -- but his full speeches were radical as hell, and his actions even more radical.

There was no other way to proceed, and Lincoln knew that. 


You CAN find quotes -- about 10 of them -- that seem to justify Lincoln being reluctant to end slavery, or reluctant to push for equality of the races under the law. But to do that, you must ignore the 99.9% of his speeches and actions.   

The only historian who even mentions Douglas's "Nigger rants"

 No one comes close to Lincoln for his stunning effectiveness and drive to end slavery and establish equality of the races under the law.    The other candidates were either very willing to let the Confederacy rip the nation apart and spread slavery as they promised.    Lincoln knew that the South could not -- could not -- spread slavery unless they could destroy the Union.

Lincoln's fierce defense of the Union -- and he explained this dozens if not hundreds of times -- was all about stopping slavery. If the Union held, slavery ends now or in the future. It dies.  We will be "all one thing or all another".  All slave states or all free states -- because of Dred Scott decision and Kansas Act.

 Virtually every time Lincoln opened his mouth from 1857 on, he was expounding, one way or another, about how the US would be a slave nation or a free nation, one or the other.  WHen he said "A house divided shall not stand"    he was talking exactly about this -- read the entire damn speech, he made that very clear. 

And Lincoln was right.  We would be all free states, or all slave states.  See more about that, below. 




Some slams against Lincoln are less goofy -- but untrue -- such as Lincoln "evolved" over time about slavery, as if he was not radically and passionately anti slavery.  In fact, every day of his life from 1846 on was spent on little else but ending slavery.

Lincoln's enemies, North and South, would be amazed today that anyone would call Lincoln anything but radical to end slavery.  In fact, his enemies hit him with that every time they possibly could, including to his face repeatedly, in newspapers and in books at the time.

Frederick Douglass explained that Lincoln was "bound" to obey public sentiment, and that compared to anyone else, Lincoln was "radical, swift, zealous and determined"  to end slavery and enforce equality of blacks and whites under the law.

Think of that... swift, radical, zealous and determined.  Douglass Oration about Lincoln  about Lincoln.

Davis promising to invade the North
and spread slavery there. 



No one was confused at Lincoln's speeches.   They left knowing exactly what he meant -- slavery had to go, or the United States would go.

Bluntly put (Lincoln avoided being blunt, for wise reasons)  the United States was in a battle to death over slavery.  Southern leaders, by the Kansas Act and Dred Scott, had made it a fight to the death. Only one would survive.

And Lincoln said he expected the Union to survive.

People think Lincoln only, or even chiefly, cared about Union -- but if he did care about Union, he did so for the very reasons he claimed.  Only the Union surviving and the Declaration of Independence being held as valid, could stop the spread of slavery. 

At the time, no one was sure if slavery would grow, as the South promised it would, not just to the rest of the USA (See below) but to the rest of the white world.

A government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

And it was about to perish, if the slave owners and slave power had their was -- see their ISIS like speeches, we show some below. 


Over a million words.  You can -- and people have -- quoted him to prove anything you want. Just take a few select quotes and you can make Lincoln seem as racist as Jeff Davis.

Lincoln calls for slave owners to be kicked to death?

Take a few other quotes, and you can make him seem uncaring about slavery.

Fair enough -- word games, using Lincoln's own words, are valid. But get the full speeches, in context, as people at the time did.   Lincoln was the most radical and effective figure of the era.    His enemies and friends called him radical.

Why would they do that?  Were they stupid?


Southern leaders claimed Lincoln's "radical Niggerism" was going to destroy the white race.

Did you know that?  

Southern crowds cheered such speeches.   Did you know that?

Southern soldiers captured early in the war, who owned no slaves, were asked why are you fighting?   Do you know what one group of men said? 

Because the North was going to make our daughters "sleep with Niggers"


When Lincoln got up to speak -- every time he got up to speak -- he had to be careful what he said.   In the Lincoln Douglas debates (you are not told this, but it was well known at the time)  Douglas yelled in Lincoln's face, and in two cities (Quincy and Charleston) ran back and forth on the stage screaming that Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with "Niggers"

Just stopping the spread of slavery meant your daughters will sleep with Niggers.  That was the meme at the time.   We don't teach that as a basic truth about what men like Lincoln faced -- and Lincoln most of all.   It's an ugly vulgar meme, but Southern leaders had no trouble shouting it to cheering crowds, and North politicians who wanted to defeat Lincoln, said the same thing.

Lincoln obsessed with equality for "NIGGERS"?

Why would Stephen A Douglas  say that? Not once, not twice, but repeatedly, in public, to his face.

This was NOT an isolated thing -- in fact Southern newspapers regularly called Lincoln a "black republican"  who as guility of "Niggerism"  and would destroy the white race.

Lincoln did -- of course -- parse words.  That is not amazing at all.  But what is amazing is how profound and extreme he was in pushing equality. Lincoln called it "equality under the law" .   



Douglas beat Lincoln because he was able to show Lincoln as too radical for the "Niggers" 

Douglas would have defeated Lincoln for President two years later, but three candidates ran against Lincoln, all three were okay with the spread of slavery.  Lincoln alone was not.

Lincoln did get more votes than anyone else, but more people voted against Lincoln than voted for him.


Douglas knew that whites were extremely afraid that black men might take  white women.  It was a common ploy among politicians in the North -- but especially common and extreme in the South.   Douglas hit that again and again.

Idiotically, many "scholars" today claim Douglas was for "popular sovereignty"  and did not care a whit if slavery expanded or not.   As Lincoln himself repeatedly showed, and Douglas's full speeches show, Douglas was rabid against equality of any sort, and got crowds into a frenzy speaking about white women "sleeping with Niggers".

But Douglas was not alone, he was just louder, and arguably the most powerful speaker, North or South.   But the South had their own stunningly loud and proud speakers, and they too attacked Lincoln -- to cheering crowds -- on  his "Niggerism". 

(moving soon to

Most people today -- even "historians" don't seem to know how fucking radical Lincoln was for equality.  They seem to focus on a few quotes -- about 12 quotes -- out of 2.1 million words.



Sure, quote Lincoln all you want.  Just get the full speeches, and in context. No one left a Lincoln speech at all confused.  He was effective -- he changed the minds of people he spoke to. 

Lincoln would often (in fact, regularly) seem to agree with a prejudice of the day, then "double back" and destroy that same prejudice, and argue for equality for all races.

Those who quote Lincoln in a way to make him appear uncaring or against equality of course do not bother to mention that the entire speech, the full speech. They may not even know or care of the full speech or context. 

Lincoln often blasted the prejudice he moments before seemed to espouse, as you will see below.  The full speeches are amazing, and radical as hell, when learned about in their entirety.

If you only go by a few quotes, out of context, and ignore what was going on, you can make Lincoln seem any way you want. 

But Stephen A Douglas, and Frederick Douglass, and Southern leaders knew damn well what was going on.   Anyone who dared speak up against slavery at all, were not only accused of wanting your "daughters to sleep with Niggers" -- they could be and were killed.

If you don't know that -- even in parts of  the North -- people were killed for being against slavery (and most don't have a clue) --- then you can't understand basic US history leading up to the  Civil War. 

Lincoln's friend, Lovejoy, was killed,, inside his own newspaper building, not far from where a Lincoln Douglas debate took place.

It's no accident that Stephen A Douglas -- who accused Lincoln loudly and repeatedly of wanting your daughters to sleep with "Niggers" -- told the crowds that Lincoln was just like those abolitionist such as Lovejoy.   Remember, Lovejoy was killed for being an abolitionist, in Illinois.  Not in the South, in Illinois.   Others were beaten and killed too, not just in the South, but in the North and West, for speaking against slavery.    


There is a  reason Stephen A Douglas, Southern leaders, and Frederick Douglass himself, said Lincoln was radical to end slavery, radical for equality under the law.

Because they knew wtf was going on, The knew of the violence, killing, terrorizing that could happen, even in the NORTH, if the hate and fear mongers got some people to hate anyone against slavery, on the basis of "taking the white women".

It's a horrid and ugly truth, and it was the reality of the day.  

And they knew Lincoln's kick ass actions, such as in Congress 1846, calling out the sitting President Polk, for starting a war in order to steal land to spread slavery.

You will see a few words, at most, mention that Lincoln "disagreed" with Polk's position, but you never see what he called Polk out -- as others did -- as going to war against Mexico in order to expand slavery.  

Now, if you had no idea President Polk started a war to spread slavery, don't blame me. People knew it, and said this was the case, even Southern slave owners said it (Henry Clay, famously).

Lincoln could, and did, show in speech after speech the spread of slavery, and how slave power used means "foul and more foul"  to push slavery.   His personal letters show he was keenly aware of the killing sprees, tortures, relentless violence used to spread slavery. 

It is astonishing to me today to hear anyone speak of Lincoln who does  not understand that Lincoln's speeches, with the exception of Gettysburg, were nearly ENTIRELY about this, and nothing else.  About the history of the Southern leaders pushing slavery by nefarious means, including the Mexican War, Kansas Act, and Dred Scott.

Lincoln, of course, was exactly right. 

If you don't believe Lincoln, look at Southern leaders boasting of just that. See Southern War Ultimatums -- I show you below.

 See speeches by the US Senator who pushed Kansas Act through, who immediately went to Kansas, and there started killing and terrorizing to spread slavery.

You probably never even heard of that US Senator.

See also Jefferson Davis (you have heard of him) own "Adress to the People of the Free States"  stating empatically he looks forward to slavery in the North where he promises to put all blacks there
"back on the slave status in perpetuity".

Davis even said at the time he issued the address "so there weill be no confusion in the future".

Most people -- even many history teachers -- seem perplexed when you tell them Southern leaders boasted of these things, not sorta, not kind, not in a way.  And not some drunks at a bar.  The top Southern leaders, the ones actually doing the killing, or leading the men doing the killing, were boasting of this. 

We should have taught this all along in US history books. 

  Instead we allowed an essentially bullshit narrative about Southern leaders as men of principle who cared about states rights. 

Nonsense, when Kansas rejected slavery overwhelmingly, Southern leaders immediately sent men to Kansas to kill and terrorize, and force slavery there -- not just force slavery, but to violently silent all opposition to slavery.

Does that sound like state's rights to you?

In fact, Jefferson Davis would explain his twisted logic why state's rights was of no effect in Kansas Territory -- because blacks were not human being, but were "inferior beings"  and the Supreme Court ordered -(yes, it did, the Supreme Court ordered)  the federal government to protect slavery in Kansas, even after Kansas citizens overwhelmingly rejected slavery.

You should have been told this. You never were.

This is what Lincoln actually had to deal with.

Lincoln's main point.  The vile means used with increasing violence to spread slavery.

Lincoln repeatedly explained what was going on.   Southern leaders were boasting of it themselves -- pushing slavery until it would be all over the US, North South, East and West.

And if you don't believe or know Southern leaders were killing, and boasting of killing, to spread slavery to the entire US, North, South, East and West, I will show you their own documents where they fucking BOASTED of this.

A big reason US public is so stupid about Lincoln and Civil War --  Southern cry babies and school boards made it impossible for US text books to show Southern War ultimatums, Southern speeches boasting of killing to spread slavery.   There is not a US text book anywhere that shows something as basic as Southern War Ultimatums.  

What the fuck?   You can't possibly make sense of Lincoln, unless you know what was going on.

Ironically, the Mexican was not the first war created by slave power to spread slavery. And it would not be the last. 

 As you will see, slave power didn't stop with the Mexican War.  The Civil War, according to Southern leaders boasting of it at the time, was about spreading slavery.   Lincoln called them on that too.

Maybe it's time  you learned the full story. 

The most powerful speakers in US history  pumped up the fear and hatred of black males -- then claimed Lincoln was Nigger lover who wanted your daughters to "sleep with niggers".

But but but -- but but but -- that letter to Greeley!!!  

But but but -- that edited quote!

But but but -- those books with "footnotes and everything"  say Lincoln was "racists as anyone"  and "didn't really care about blacks.  Lincoln "wanted to send them back to Africa". 






According to Northern and Southern leaders at the time  Lincoln was the most radical abolitionist of the era. 

Southern leaders were especially focused on Lincoln, telling cheering crowds that Lincoln equaled "Niggerism"  and the literal destruction of the white race.

So every time Lincoln spoke, he was speaking to people who thought he might be "Nigger lover" who would indeed
" make your daughters sleep with Niggers".

You are not told this.

Douglas screamed this in Lincoln's face -- repeatedly.  In fact, he ran from side to side of the stage in at least two debates, and the "Nigger lover" rap was on Douglas used again and again.

Want  your daughters to sleep with Niggers?  Vote for Lincoln.


That was not a side issue, not a throw away line. And people believed it. Lincoln did not win that election in 58 because enough people saw Lincoln as "Niggerism" which would result in black men "walking down the street with your wife, raping her as soon as they could".

Over and over -- and over - people North and South were told this.

Lincoln had to speak, therefore, very carefully.

Still -- despite the danger to Lincoln -- Lincoln's speeches were amazing for equality, amazing for why and how we must end slavery before it destroys the United States.

As Lincoln said over and over, slavery will destroy the United States, or the Union will destroy the slavery. One will survive.


Why would Lincoln's contemporaries say he was so extreme, so radical??

Did they not know about Lincoln's 8 quotes and  his letter to Greeley?

Did they not know that Lincoln didn't care about slavery, and used it for political gain?  (Hilarious, because Lincoln was lucky not to be killed much sooner than he was, for his "radical view" about equality).





There is not one US text book that teaches what Southern leaders, at the time, were screaming from the rooftops, as crowds cheered.

Not one text book that shows even NORTHERN papers calling for the execution of "Niggers"  who spoke against slavery, and implied the same treatment for whites who spoke against slavery too radically.

In the South, it was even worse, regularly Lincoln and others were accused of the certain destruction of the white race,  just by stopping the spread of slavery.


Quincy Illinois paper calling for the execution of Frederick Douglass for speaking against Kansas Act. 

 Lincoln was repeatedly accused of meeting white women and Frederick Douglas in the same carriage -- practically an open plea, to some, to kill Lincoln.

Lincoln was a bad ass - he even went to Kansas to speak, after Southern leaders made it against the law to speak openly or publish newspapers against slavery. 

In most of the South, and in Kansas, when Lincoln was running for Senate, it was a crime, punishable by torture (yes torture) to speak against slavery in the open, or to preach against slavery.

Yet people will look at you like you lost your damn mind when you tell them this. Yet even in the NORTH, Northern papers called for the arrest, and hanging, of Frederick Douglas for speaking -- let me repeat that -- SPEAKING - against slavery.

There is a reason -- a good reason  -- the signs at Lincoln Douglas debates (on Lincoln's side)  said "Free Speech"  and "Free Kansas".    Do you know what the reason is?  

They were referring to the laws against Free Speech in the South and in Kansas. 

 The Quincy paper above shows how newspapers urged death onto folks who did such thing. 

Were you ever told Lincoln even went to Kansas?

Were you ever told he went there AFTER it was a crime to speak against slavery there?


Did you know other famous men at the time refused to go to Kansas and speak?  You better be very careful even in Illinois what you said, so many people were convinced that just stopping the spread of slavery would doom the right race.

If you don't know that, you really don't understand the period leading up to the civil war, or Lincoln. 


If you don't understand the hatred and violence toward anyone who was against slavery, you don't understand what a bad ass Lincoln was.

When Stephen A Douglas repeatedly told crowds Lincoln wanted their daughters to sleep with "Niggers"  and that Lincoln went with Frederick Douglas and a white woman, he was urging violence.   Stephen Douglas did get other political opponents beaten, almost to death.

Douglas (Stephen A) knew that the emotional battering ram to use to defeat Lincoln, was to accuse him of "wanting your daughter to sleep with Niggers" 

It worked. Douglas won that race. 

So when Lincoln got up to speak, for his own safety, he better be very careful how he said what he did.  Lincoln did, at times, parse words.  But see his full speeches, his full actions, and you will see he was radical as hell.    The only way those today who would make him seem "reluctant"  or "ambivalent" about slavery is to not know or care what the full story is.

According to Northern and Southern leaders at the time  Lincoln was the most radical abolitionist of the era. 

This was a time when people were still being killed, even in Illinois,  for being "too radical" to free the slaves.

Not because people loved slavery -- it had nothing to do with that.  But because people were told, North and South, "Nigger men" will "sleep with your daughters".

If you don't know thatn you don't know the basics about Lincoln and what led to Civil War.

As Southern leaders grew more intense -- to the point of insisting they were doing the will of GOD, and that Lincoln was going to make white women sleep with "niggers" -- will you understand the the Civil War.

Even most people in the South were not pro-slavery.  But when Southern leaders and editors pumped up the fear and hate by equating just stopping the spread of slavery with death of the white race,  it worked to give those extreme speakers power, but it also worked to bring on the Civil War.

Certainly not enough people in the South were so extreme that they would kill to spread slavery.   Yet the Southern leaders issued War Ultimatums and were killing to spread slavery.

When you understand Southern leaders -- and their friends in the  North, pushed the "Niggers will get your daughters" meme -- you will understand why Southern men who didn't own slaves, and didn't even like slavery, would be rallied to fight.


Over, and over, and over,  and over, they were told freedom for blacks -- OR EVEN NOT SPREADING SLAVERY -- would get your daughters raped or seduced by blacks.

When you understand this, you can read Lincoln's speeches and "get it".  He had to parse words -- so he did.  Lincoln would have been attacked physically if he got up on debate stage and said "So what if your daughter sleeps with Niggers"?

Lincoln had to say he did not need a black woman as a wife.  He could just let her alone.

Get his full quotes (not edited bullshit).  Get  his actions -- kicking slavery in the ass sideways, hated for it, eventually killed for it, from 1846 on.

Oh you didn't know?  Lincoln was hated for being "obsessed with equality for the Nigger".  Lincoln, said a Southern papers "equals Niggerism". Your daughters will marry Niggers, the white race will be exterminated.

After such comments -- including Stephen A Douglas yelling this in Lincoln's face (yes, he did, see below)  -- Lincoln had to get up and defend blacks to a white nation that didn't really give a shit.   In fact, many white males in the North were as afraid of black men "taking our women" as in the South.

This is an ugly truth - ugly as hell.   But it the central issue the United States faced, and Lincoln had to answer those insults.  Did he want your daughters to sleep with "Niggers"?

Was Lincoln going to let "Niggers" walk the streets by your wife, your daughters?

Was he going to let them vote?  Sit on juries?  


Q ) From 1846 on,  why was Lincoln as a Congressmen hated by the South.

A,    Because he  stood up to President Polk, and accused him correctly of starting the Mexican War to gain land to spread slavery, Lincoln was a marked and hated man.   

Did you ever hear this even mentioned in any US text book? 

Did you even know that Lincoln (and others) rightly accused Polk of  creating a war, in order to add slave territory for the South?

You might not believe that is what the Mexican War was about (yes, that is what it was about - to add slavery land).  But why the fuck are we not told Lincoln accused Polk of that very thing?

This is as basic as it gets. Yet you can can't find any mention -- even mention - of Lincoln standing up to Polk because he was at war to help slavery spread.  How fucking stupid is that?

And it's not taught in any US highschool text book, that we know of.  Yet it was the biggest thing in Lincoln's life -- the biggest thing he did as a Congressman.  

You think they could fucking mention it as a matter of trivia.  Shit fire, they spend more time explaining Lincoln's growing a beard and a chat with a young girl, that the really important thing, calling out a US President as going to war to spread slavery.

Every fucking "historian" who has glossed over this, or not mentioned it, is not necessarily a dumb ass. They apparently just repeated the bullshit they heard, and were too stupid and lazy to read original documents at the time, and take Lincoln's own very clear letters about this, seriously.

 There is no biography of Lincoln, in the last 40 years, that even mentions Lincoln's amazing challenge of a sitting President, that we know of.  Certainly none that make this a BFD (big fucking deal), which it was. 

When Lincoln could not stop the Mexican War, even by openly challenging President Polk, Lincoln tried 40 times to outlaw slavery in the land we just stole from Mexico.

A very BFD.

And Lincoln's fight against slavery didn't stop there.  

Nor did the hatred of Lincoln by slave power folks and their paid lackeys in the North (Like Stephen A Douglas).

But more -- why the hell have you not heard of this?  And there is much much more.  As Stephen A Douglas said repeatedly: Lincoln, is "obsessed with equality for the Nigger".

No one told you Douglas repeatedly said Lincoln was obsessed with equality  -- in fact Douglas  fanned the hate and fear of black males having sex with white females, in the same sentences as he fanned the hate and fear of Lincoln.  He tied Lincoln to the "Niggers"  and told the crowd Lincoln wanted your daughters to sleep with "Niggers".

Then Lincoln had to get up and speak.



Southern leaders sure knew about it. "Lincoln equals Niggerism" said Southern newspapers.  Were they stupid?  Lincoln was going to destroy the white race, just by stopping the spread of slavery.  

How the hell do you destroy the white race by being against the spread of slavery?   Might seem strange to you know, but this made perfect sense at the time. 

Lincoln will destroy the white race, they said.  In speeches  He wants your daughters to sleep with "Niggers".

He will EXTERMINATE the what race.  And people believed it. 




Most people today -- thanks to our history books that white wash this most basic issue -- have no idea at all how radical Lincoln was.   

Instead, they know a few Lincoln quotes, taken completely out of context,

For one thing, people were still being killed -- yes they were -- for being too "radical for the Niggers"  even in the North.  Did you know that even in Kansas, Southern leaders made it a crime to speak publically, or preach, against slavery?

Did you know people where whipped, tortured, killed EVEN IN THE NORTH --  for being to radical for the "Nigger".

So when LIncoln got up to speak -- he was speaking (even in the North) to people who not only would not "piss on a nigger if he were on fire" .  Whites in the North could easily hate and fear anyone who dared speak of ending slavery.  Men like Stephen A Douglas eagerly used this approach hundreds, if not thousands of times, not just in the debates, but in almost every speech he made about slavery after 1854.



Douglas said Lincoln was radical "for the Nigger" .

Did Douglas actually believe Lincoln wanted "your daughters" to sleep with "Niggers".

Of course not.   But this was a common, very common, approach to anyone who was against even the spread of slavery. 

This is quickly obvious if you spend a few days reading Southern speeches and newspapers at the time.  You won't really learn it any other way, because the vile nature of those who attacked Lincoln (and many others) has never been taught -- the attack was about "Niggers"  taking white women.

Not sort of. Not kind of.  Not a few times, by a few people.

This was the typical and effective way to attack those who were at all against slavery for any reasons.

Even in the South, if you were not eagerly pro slavery, pro spread of slavery, you could be and were accused of being "Nigger lover"    or "abolitionist".

"Abolitionist", in much of the USA, even the North, was a derisive term, an insult, almost like calling someone a child molester now, in much of the USA.

Including in Illinois in the 1850s.


I can't help it if you didn't hear Lincoln. But you can read, right? Certainly historians and history teachers should know this very well. Instead, they don't know at all.

Even as early las 1890, people alive in the Civil War tried to remind folks how the word "abolitionist"  was a term North and South, of immense hatred by most people.  Abolitionist -- the way it was used then -- was almost as bad as being called a child molester now.  It was shorthand, and understood as such, for the destruction of the white race, for black men to "sleep with your daughters". 

Unless you know that, you can't understand why Lincoln would say he was not an abolitionist -- but that he hated slavery as much as any abolitionist did.

So historians should read his full speeches -- in context. And teach  his actions 1846 on. 

You won't be so easily fooled by bullshit. 

Wants your daughters to sleep with "Niggers"?

Mr Lincoln "harps constantly on this subject of equality". 

WTF?    That's from the Lincoln Douglas debates, and it's not some "gotcha" quote.  Douglas explained, sometimes for hours, just how vile life would be if blacks were allowed equality.

Blacks would destroy the white race, make living in the US a nightmare.  Lincoln would  "Burn us to death slowly over an open fire"  is how one Southern leader put it.
 Is that what you want, that is what you will have with Mr Lincoln? 

Men like Douglas shouted (yes shouted) and Southern editors preachers and speakers shouted (yes shouted) this message to the public.

For years. Get that in your head.  For YEARS Southern leaders, Southern preachers, Southern editors pumped up the hate and fear of blacks, in order to advance the spread of slavery.  Just stopping the spread of slavery was going to "EXTERMINATE THE WHITE RACE".

Remember this -- it's new to you.  Just stopping the violent spread of slavery was going to "EXTERMINATE THE WHITE RACE".

Your daughters will "sleep with Niggers".   Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers, shouted Douglas. Yes, he shouted it.  It's a fucking shame, a travesty, we do not teach these ugly truths, because the ugly truth was what Lincoln faced.

THEN  -- after this tirade, by the best speakers of the day, Lincoln had to get  up and defend the black race, even after the SCOTUS officially ruled blacks were not human beings.  Really, not human beings.  No, Im not kidding -- NOT HUMAN BEINGS. 




Douglas (Stephen A Douglas)  not only said this repeatedly to crowds during the Lincoln Douglas debates (yes, he did)  Douglas actually ran from side to side of the debate platform in Charleston Illinois screaming it.

He yelled this into Lincoln's FACE.  Someone should have told you -- not just to show how vile Douglas was ( and he was) but to show how Lincoln lost that Senate race. Douglas was able to scare the shit out of white males.   He had enough convinced that "Niggers" would take their daughters.

This was not some throw away line -- the central message from Douglas to the people of Illinois was that Lincoln was a radical "Negro Worshiper" who would have your daughters sleep with "Niggers". 

That has been white washed --but it was the reality of the day. And then Lincoln had to get up to defend the black race, and argue for equality -- after, after, let me repeat this-- after, the SCOTUS had officially and specifically ordered (yes they did, read the decision) that blacks can not be seen as humans, but must be seen as property.

And do you know what Lincoln said? Hell no you don't.  Lincoln said those who "make mere merchandise" of the Negro, and "deny his humanity"  should be KICKED TO DEATH.

Lincoln was talking about the Supreme Court, and slave power.  Radical enough for you?

Kicked. To. Death.  That is what they deserved, Lincoln said in Peoria not long after Dred Scott decision came out.

Blacks will be "recognized" as property.  

Orders the federal government to PROTECT slavery.

Even in areas that  rejected slavery by 95% vote.

This is what the fuck was going on.  

Lincoln showing the absurdity and fraud of the Dred Scott decision
which would push slavery everywhere. He was right. 

Let me repeat that too. Lincoln said those who make merchandise of black men,and deny their humanity, should be KICKED TO DEATH.

This is how ugly it got -- because Lincoln was dealing with scum sucking pigs like Douglas and the SCOTUS.  Maybe it's time we learned, and taught, what the fuck was going on.  

Lincoln was not only going to have your daughters "sleep with Niggers"  he was going to have them walk down the street with your wife (unthinkable at the time)  serve on juries, and be able to vote.

This video does not show the ugly hate screamed out by Douglas -- and the same thing was going on all over.  

Still the video does show how Douglas (and many others) attacked Lincoln of being obsessed with equality for  "the Nigger" -- or as the screenplay writer changed it, "the Negro" 

Contrary to this, shouted Douglas, dozens of times, is the United States Supreme Court who ruled blacks can not be seen as human beings (not persons).  And in fact, MUST be seen, and treated, as property.

You probably never heard that the SCOTUS literally ordered -- ordered -- that blacks be seen not as human beings (not persons) but as property.

And further, the SCOTUS ordered- - literally ordered -- the federal government to protect slavery even in areas that had voted 95% against slavery.

Here are the words in the Court's order.  The United States "recognizes" blacks as propery  (not human beings)

In the same short sentence, the SCOTUS ordered the federal government to protect slavery.

And if you don't believe the SCOTUS actually ordered blacks to be seen as not human beings, read not just the order, but the decision itself fully. That is exactly what they ordered.

IF that is not not enough, Jefferson Davis himself made it very clear, that was basic effect of the Dred Scott Decision, and he was sending killers to Kansas on that basis.   Southern leaders, and Stephen A Douglas, gave dozens of speeches (and in every single Lincoln Douglas debates) explained this at length,   Dred Scott ordered blacks to be seen as property.

This is what Lincoln was railing against -- and if you don't know that, YDKS, you just know the white washed bullshit put out endlessly.  He railed against it in every debate, every speech -- yet he admitted he was bound by it as President, until he could change it by Constitutional Amendment -- which he did do, in the 13th Amendment. 

In fact, when Confederate solders were captured early in the war-- and were asked why they were fighting, do you know what the said?

Some said this. Yanks want our daughters to marry Negroes"  This was the propaganda -- North and South - for twenty years leading up to the Civil War.  And it worked. 

Over and over Southern leaders pushed slavery further and further,  each time declaring the future of the white race depended on it.

If we do not spread slavery (remember this) the white race will be exterminated. 



Because Lincoln gave over 3000 speeches, over 2 million words,  people can quote him any way they want. And they did so then and now.

But get his FULL speeches, not misleading " utterances torn from their connection" as Frederick Douglass said, but by the full picture. That means all his words, and all his actions.

Frederick Douglass was there -- he knew the slave owners, he knew Lincoln, and he knew what Lincoln was up against.

We can presume Frederick Douglass knew wtf he was talking about.  He claimed Lincoln was radical, swift, zealous and determined.


Lincoln's enemies, North and South, said exactly the same thing -- that Lincoln was "radical"  "obsessed"  to destroy slavery.  

They were right.   His full actions, his full words show the most radical man in the US who was effective.  John Brown might have been more radical, but he was caught within two hours and hung in two weeks. Brown stupidly created a huge backlash in the South -- gave credence to the the propaganda that anyone against slavery would cause blacks to kill not just the white masters, but anyone right.

Ending slavery would be an invitation to rape and murder,  said some Southern papers. 



Since the SCOTUS had already ordered that blacks could not be seen as human beings (as persons)  but they must be seen as property,  Lincoln was bound as President to respect that -- until he could get it overturned (which he did).

Southern leaders explained this repeatedly -- stopping us from spreading slavery would destroy the white race.


Lincoln had no public support in 1861 to bother slavery where it was.   He had declared slave owners deserved to be "kicked to death"   -- see his powerful speeches, in total.

But there was no "warrant"  -- to public sentiment, no legal ability or right to simply invade the South and force them to give up slavery.  No soldiers would join for such a fight.   So yes, Lincoln spoke of Union.  No kidding, and if he did not do that, the US falls apart, and slavery spreads.   So he made the right decision, even if your "history" teacher is so stupid as to belittle him for talking about Union.  He talked 1000 times more about slavery and why we had to end it, than Union, but that has not stopped "history teachers"  from implying Lincoln only cared about Union. Or that he only wanted to stop slavery.  



Get all his speeches, and his private letters. He was radical as hell, and then proved it by kicking the shit out of slavery as soon as he could get public support to do so.

In fact, every day of Lincoln's life, after 1846, was spent fighting against slavery.  

      To deride Lincoln because he spoke of stopping the spread of slavery,  is like hating your cancer doctor for first stopping the spread of cancer with drugs, before they cut out half your brain. 

 LIncoln's letter about Union,that so man wave around as prove he did not care about slavery, came when Kentucky was about to go with the Confederacy -- his letter was really to Kentucky, not Greeley.  And it worked, Kentucky did not join the Confederacy, largely because of the latter, and contacts Lincoln had in Kentucky, speaking there on his behalf. 

Lincoln had by that time given thousands of speeches on slavery, spent years fighting slavery, fought it in Congress, fought it in speeches, fought it in Washington DC to try to end slavery there.

No one even fucking mentions that, but waves that letter around. Read the letter closely -- typical of Lincoln, he parsed words carefully. IF -- IF -- I could save the Union, IF I could free the slaves.   Lincoln was a wordsmith, and wrote this way to make everyone think what they wanted.   Had he not done this, Kentucky goes to the Confederacy, and slavery spreads.  As Lincoln knew and said, without Kentucky, all is lost.  He would rather have Kentucky on his side, than God!


South's Five Year head start on the killings

What most people today do not grasp -- the South was already at war, already killing, already boasting of it, in Kansas.   Already the South had made it illegal to write or preach or vote against slavery in Kansas. 

See the 1856 speech and other documents, by Southern leaders at the time.  They were boasting they were at war.

Guess who knew this?   Frederick Douglass -- and most people alive in 1850's.

Guess who doesn't seem to have a clue?  Most US history teachers. It's not their fault, no one told them.

It was going to take war -- to fight back.  So far, Southern scum had been fighting civilians, citizens.


Within two weeks of Lincoln taking office, the South issued War Ultimatums.  Did you know that? According to Southern headlines, boasting of it, there were five -- five- - War Ultimatums.  They were already in Kansas killing, and already boasting of it, but do you know what the War Ultimatums were?

Five Ultimatums. All five, 1,2,3,4,5  were about the spread of slavery. Specifically into slavery.

And by this time, did you know Kansas was already a free state?  Already the citizens there voted against slavery by 95%?  

No, you did not know.

 Jefferson DAVIS wrote this officially.  See his book "Rise and Fall"

After Kansas was a free state, he demanded it be a slave state.

Yes, he knew Kansas had voted 95% against slavery.

Did you know Jefferson Davis specifically repeated the demand to spread slavery into Kansas-- after, after that territory became a state.   A BFD.  

That is what Lincoln was dealing with. 

 Davis also issued officially a promise to invade the North and have slavery there.  See it yourself, it's in his own paperwork.

Lincoln was radical and dangerous -- said the South - just for speaking against the spread of slavery.   Actually the radical fucks were those already killing and boasting of it, to spread slavery.  It's about time we quit the bullshit, and tell what the fuck was going on. 

Lincoln -- and anyone against the spread of slavery -- were "trying to make us sting ourselves to death".

Always the most extreme language -- and the crowds cheered such speeches, according to newspapers at the time, who boasted of it. 

Let me repeat that, crowds CHEERED Toombs, and others like him, who put the most hateful and fearful visions in the white man's heads, deliberately. Your daughters will sleep with "Niggers".

Our white race will be "exterminated" -- and Lincoln will cause that, just by being against the spread of slavery. 

That is what Lincoln faced.  It's not my fault you did not know. You should have been told. 

(Lincoln aptly compared slavery to a spreading cancer, and said first, we must stop the spread of it). 

Radical?  Zealous?  Swift?  Determined???

 Lincoln's own actions, from 1846 forward show is that Frederick Douglass did indeed know WTF he was talking about.   It helped that he was there, knew Lincoln. 

Douglass on Lincoln.  "We saw him, measured him, and estimated him; not by stray utterances to injudicious and tedious delegations, who often tried his patience; not by isolated facts torn from their connection; not by any partial and imperfect glimpses, caught at inopportune moments; but by a broad survey"


It's almost as if  many "historians" don't know, or perhaps don't care, what  his full actions were,  and how radical he was.   It often sounds better to lay on the bullshit, one way or another.

You won't see much of the information we show here even mentioned in an any US textbook, and  rarely mentioned in a clear way, in most biographies of Lincoln. 

Even worse, if possible, while some might obligquily mention a few of these things, they never, as far as we know, show just  how radical Lincoln was. Because he was.

 All things considered, no one, not even John Brown according to Brown's good friend Frederick Douglass, was as radical and effective 


Why on earth would Douglas say such a stupid thing?   We have experts -- and most history teachers now -- saying that Lincoln did "not really care" about slavery, at least not until half way through the US Civil War.

Actually in 1854, in fact for a 15 years leading up to the Civil War, Lincoln's full speeches -- remember that full speeches -- show an extraordinarily determined man to expose the South's plan to spread slavery against the will of the people, and announced more than once if necessary, the United States must stop the spread of slavery even by death. 

By death.

Why not quote that -- and other amazing powerful statements by Lincoln?  And show how radical he was, 1846 on, starting with standing up to President Polk.  

Did you know Lincoln stood up in Congress and accused (correctly) President Polk of starting the Mexican War in order to spread slavery for slave power?

Hell no you didn't know.

Did you know Lincoln tried 40 times after that, to push legislation that prevented slavery from going into the lands US just stole to spread slavery?

Hell no you didn't know that.

Did you know that Lincoln then tried to end slavery in Washington DC, and was from that point on, a marked man by Southern scum, slave power, and men like Stephen A Douglas?

Hell no you didn't know that. No one told you.  Not my fault no one told you.


Why Ken Burns film about the Civil War least the first ten minutes.

Yes, it does. 

NONE of this -- not one word of this -- got in Ken Burns "Civil War" documentary.  Why? 

Not one word of Southern War Ultimatums. Not one word of Lincoln's amazing actions, 1846 on, to kick slavery in the ass.

Not one word of Lincoln insisting slave owners deserved to be kicked to death.

Not one word of the SCOTUS ordering blacks to be seen not as human beings, but as property.  They ordered that.

Not one word of the SCOTUS ordering the federal government to protect slavery, even where it was rejected overwhelmingly by the citizens in elections (Kansas). 

Not one word of Lincoln going to Kansas- after Southern leaders made it a crime -- and speaking against slavery there. 

Not one word of 1000 things that should have gotten in. 

Not one word!

 Probably because Burns stupidly used Shelby Foote, who adores Jefferson Davis and the Confederate leaders, as  his "advisor".   If Shelby didn't tell him, Burns didn't know it.

 Big mistake.

Foote: Essentially a Jefferson Davis groupie.

Foote essentially gave the "Jefferson Davis" spin on the Civil War, and so omitted all Southern War Ultimatums, all mention of Southern declarations of War in 1856, sending two thousand killers to Kansas 1856, etc. 

If you don't know what the South did -- and Lincoln's full actions and speeches against that -- YDKS.

Sadly Burns did not get that in, at all.

He meant well, but he had no clue what he was talking about, and Foote was not about to tell him, of what was going on in the 1850s.


Douglas and many others claimed Lincoln was a "radical abolitionist"  because they knew his FULL speeches -- remember that, full speeches. Not the out of context bullshit you are often fed.

Lincoln said slavery must end, or the US must end, one or the other.     One will die.

That's the basis of many of his speeches, notably "House Divided Speech."  Southern response was loud,  they claimed Lincoln had just declared war on them.   
In a way -- Lincoln did, in as restrained language as possible. One thing will live, the other will die.  The Union will live -- and slavery die, or slavery will live, and the Union die.

The House Divided Speech was entirely, 100%, every word, about the violent and vile efforts by the South to spread slavery against, remember that, against states rights.  Because of Dred Scott, slavery must be everywhere, or we will destroy it, and slavery will be nowhere. 



Linclon claimed -- and was correct --that he had "no warrant" to end slavery.  There was no law against slavery, in fact the SCOTUS ordered (yes ordered) the federal government to protect slavery in the Dred Scott decision. 

Nor did Lincoln want a war to end slavery. As he said, there was no way to know if the North would win the war "without killing its children".   Lincoln hoped -- and said so over 50 times -- to stop the spread of slavery, and slavery would destroy itself by not being able to spread.


Lincoln compared slavery to a cancer. It had to grow, or die.  

Southern leaders said the same thing -- that slavery had to spread, or the white race will "be exterminated".   Both said the same thing from different frames of reference.

Lincoln did not have the public will to fight a war to spread slavery. He knew that most people did not give a damn about slavery -- certainly not enough to risk their lives to end it by force. 

His own personal feelings about slavery were extreme -- which you can tell by his actions from 1846 on, and his full speeches.  He said, for example, that slave owners deserved to be kicked to death.

Try to top that. Slave owners deserve to be kicked to death.

But as President, he did not have the public support or the stupidity to invade the South and try to force an end to slavery.   The South attacks -- in Kansas and elsewhere -- and their war ultimatums, forced Lincoln to respond to their violence. 

SO he did. 


Lincoln also tried to stop President Polk from stealing land to spread slavery -- as you will see. He also tried to end slavery in 1846, in the District Of Columbia.

He also tried over 40 times to stop slavery from going into the land stolen (yes stolen) from Mexico by war.  I can't help it if no one told you USA stole land from Mexico by war -- Lincoln accused President Polk of that, and so did many others, including some Southern leaders themselves -- Henry Clay,  a Democrat in the South, accused Polk of the same thing, and rightly so, the USA really did concoct a deadly war, for slave owners, to spread slavery.

 was an "ignorant ape" who would "exterminate the white race"  and "torture us by slow fire to death"   by making the entire country of whites equal with "inferior beings".  

We will be exterminated, said Southern leaders, if we can not spread slavery. Never mind protecting it where it was, we must expand slavery or we will perish.

Warnings --

1) Under construction-

2) Crude language, because it's needed here.

Stephen A Douglas did  not just say Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with "Niggers".  He shouted it, ran from side to side of the stage screaming it.

Newspapers at the time reported it.  Why the fuck have we taken out the violence and danger Lincoln faced -- and of course the slaves faced?   


QUESTION:  Have we dared to teach, even 160 years later, the ugly  truth of what went on leading up to the Civil War.  And therefore, never taught what Lincoln actually faced?

Nigger lover?  Wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers?  Not by some nuts in the crowd, but by the most powerful speaker of the century -- Stephen A Douglas, to his face?

ANSWER:  We have yet to teach the ugly truth.

Even now, historians find  easier to speak in euphemism or bullshit. Sounds better. 

Omit that most whites at the time Lincoln ran for Senate hated and feared black men -- and were told by the powerful Trump like speakers of the day, to fear them.

Black men are going to take our white women -- the heart of the fear and mongering leading to Civil War, and brought up in every Lincoln -Douglas debate, and the "emotional knife" Douglas used to stab Lincoln not once, but hundreds of times, and in hundreds of ways.

Lincoln had to then get up and defend the black man -- who many people hated and feared.  Get  his full speeches, not edited BS, and you will see just how  radical he was.  

Get a few "torn asunder" comments -- as Frederick Douglass called them (out of context crap)  and you can make Lincoln appear as evil as you like to.

But as Douglass said, given all the facts, Lincoln was indeed, in action, and in effect, radical, zealous, swift, and determined.

If you know better than Frederick Douglass, who was there, please tell me the facts that show Douglass did not know what the hell he was talking about.


 Historians even now do not tell of the ISIS like tortures, violence, burning to death, of people who fought against slavery.   Southern leaders had WHITES killed, and tortured too, for trying to resist the spread of slavery, as you will see.

Why not teach that?    Why not teach the speeches were Southern leaders promised unending killing and violence until slavery was spread even into all Northern states?

Jefferson Davis himself boasted of killing ("by force of our arms" = killing) to spread slavery into the entire North.  Why not show that, and all that portends? 

Why not show the War Ultimatums that slavery MUST be spread, and spread by violence if needed. 

 Lincoln, however, had to deal with the real issues  --  the killing sprees, the war ultimatums,  the "machinations" that would push slavery to all of the US, North and South, or die trying.

And Lincoln dealt with the ugly violent truth that is not taugh in any US text book, but only after Southern leaders not only killing to spread slavery, but boasted of their War Ultimatums, and boasted they would keep killing until slavery was spread to the North (yes the North) by force of Arms.


Official  Southern documents actually make this very clear. Lincoln, by just being against the violent (yes violent) spread of slavery, was "torturing us to death slowly" 

Just allowing "Niggers" to walk down the street, on the same sidewalk as a white woman, was made to seem a terrifying invitation to the rape and murder of white women.

"Niggers" will be sleeping with your daughters  was not a side issue. It was the main issue -- the way Southern leaders (and Northern helpers) stirred up hate and fear.

Douglas just not just say Lincoln wants your daughters to "sleep with Niggers".   He ran from side to side of the stage screaming it, in Charleston Illinois -- and wisely so.

Douglas won that race, and would have won the Presidential race with the same approach, but two other candidates, also pro spread of slavery (like Douglas) ran, dividing the pro-slavery vote.

Southern leaders were pumping up the hate the exact same way -- Lincoln will make your daughters "sleep with Negroes" and this will destroy the white race.

Sleeping with "Niggers"  was the main "knife" as Lincoln called it, used to stab anyone who dared speak against slavery and the violent spread of it.

It was the central issue of the day, the raw nerve of the day. 

And Lincoln was vilified, North and South, for "wanting your daughter to sleep with Niggers... your wife will be with Niggers on the street".

People were still being killed, whipped, hung for daring to speak against slavery  --- even in Kansas, a Northern state.   And those were WHITE people who opposed slavery -- of course, blacks were treated much worse.

Did you know Southern leaders sent 800 men (mostly from Texas) to Kansas to kill and terrorize in 1856?    See Atchison's speech to these very men, below. 

A central them -- not "sorta"  not "kinda"  -- was the often repeated with great fanfare and volume, that Lincoln would make your daughters, North and South "sleep with Niggers".

That ugly truth never made it into any US history book, but we very much at the heart of everything leading up to the US Civil War.

Did you know those men made it a crime to speak against slavery, publish anything anti slavery in Kansas (it was already a crime to do so in the South).

Did you know Lincoln went to Kansas after Southern leaders made it a crime to speak against slavery - and there spoke against slavery?

North and South it was the issue that mattered.

The Confederate soldiers were told that  -- Yanks would make your daughters marry "Niggers".



How the hell have so many "historians" just whitewashed this basic and very real issue -- one that shaped not only Lincoln's actions, but shaped the entire nation?

Not one word -- not one - in any book by Eric Foner, Bruce Catton, or James McPherson on the relentless attacks on LIncoln for "being obsessed with equality for the Nigger,"  and all that portends.

Southern leaders pumped up the fear and hate of that black man (Nigger)  being with your white daughter. Why not mention that? It's not hard to find, Stephen A Douglas himself again and again cited this in his famous debates against Lincoln.

It was no secret, then.  But it might as well be a secret now. 

Lincoln had to say - hey hey hey, I never said I was for PERFECT equality, meaning marriage and sex between black men and white women. 


Southern leaders and their lackeys in North regularly called anyone against slavery "Nigger lovers"  or "Nigger Worshippers".   

The term "black republican"  was more common than just writing "republican".   One Southern writer just wrote "Niggers = Republicans". 

And called for their DEATH.




Orwell much?

Slaves, insisted Jeff Davis, were "the most contented laborers on earth".   It was the evil "abolitionist"  causing slaves to be "dissatisfied".

Robert E Lee wrote that if "abolitionist" will stop their "evil course"  the slave owner would eventually be able to civilize the black race.  Learn about his torture of slave girls, from his own slave ledgers.  Pain, Lee wrote, was "necessary for their instruction"  and God knew and intended slaves "endure painful discipline"  which he paid others to carry out.

Meaning, he paid men to whip slave girls as he stood by screaming at the girls.  That was reported in newspapers then, and Lee validated those reports in his own hand written slave ledgers and letters.

Yet we teach Lee -- idiotically and fraudulently - as either not owning slaves, or being loved by his "servants".  Utter nonsense. 

From the 1830's on, Southern states made it a crime --punishable by whipping -- to publish or say things in public that would "dissatisfy a slave".

Orwellian much?

Let that sink in.  In fact, it was the "radical Negro Worshippers"  said Southern leaders, who "were against GOD"  that caused slaves to be "dissatisfied".

   Never mind that slaves never got near any abolitionist, and never heard these speakers, and were not allowed near newspapers.

Even whites in the South were punished -- including torture, hanging, drowning -- for owning the wrong book, or public comments and writings against slavery, or trying to vote against slavery.

I can't help it if your "history" teacher doesn't know or leaves out the original documents that prove all this, and was common knowledge then. 

You did not have to be pro slavery -- you just could not be anti -slavery. 

The country was told by leaders North and South that Lincoln was so "Nigger loving" and so "radical for equality"  that he was killing the white race, he would "exterminate the white race".





So then, after being called Nigger lover, after being described as "wanting your daughters to sleep with Niggers" -- Lincoln had to speak to crowds that fully or partly believed that crap. 

Unless you know that, you don't know shit about Lincoln or the civil war.

Lincoln would be amazed if he came back now, and people didn't know how much he was hated, and eventually killed, for being "a Nigger lover".

Leave a few facts out, and you destroy the basic truth of our past.  This is one such truth. 

Lincoln was "causing slave rebellion" in South by his "radical Nigger loving speeches"  according to a Texas newspaper at the time.

Never mind that it was illegal and virtually impossible for the slaves to learn any of Lincoln's speeches, or any news about him.

Never mind that Lincoln spoke very carefully, with no rancor, no bitterness.  In fact, Lincoln bent over backwards NOT to offend the violent Southern culture.   


'If you are against slavery, you are against God"

"God has silenced all opposition to slavery by his Holy Word" 

But Southern leaders took any comment that even questioned slavery as an assault on their manhood, their honor, and their GOD.


  In the South, it was a crime to even speak or preach against slavery, and preachers could be, and were, arrested and subjected to torture for simply owning the wrong book.  Did you know that, or not?  You need to know that, to make sense of Lincoln.

And people were killed and tortured even where Lincoln went, at the time.   No one told you that, did they?


According to Southern documents -  at the time --  Lincoln's speeches were so extreme, they caused slave rebellions in the South.  

No, Lincoln's words did not cause slave rebellions -- as Texas newspapers screamed at the time.

But pumping hate for Lincoln,  and convincing the public that slavery had to spread (for GOD) or the white race was doomed, was how extreme Southern leaders were.  

Crowds in the South cheered-- according to newspapers entirely approving of it, when speakers said they were spreading slavery for God as "punishment" of the black race.

You are not told that Southern crowds cheered the speakers of the day, for claiming GOD not only wanted slavery, but wanted slavery in order to punish the black race.

Guess who knew that kind of horror? Lincoln knew.

Guess who else knew?  Frederick Douglas.

That is an ugly truth, but it is exactly what was going on.  Exactly what Lincoln faced. Exactly what the country faced.

Not sorta. Not kinda. Not in a way. 

When confronted with the cruelty of slavery,  Slave owners and their apologists had no choice -- claim it was from GOD. Claim Lincoln and anyone against slavery was against GOD.

Just speaking (remember this) just speaking or preaching publically  against slavery was a crime in the South. 

 Did  you know that?  In fact, in US Congress, before the Civil War, Southern leaders in Congress wanted folks arrested in the North, who dared publish books in the North, against slavery.

Not only did they arrest and torture people in the South for public speaking or preaching against slavery, they wanted anyone in the North arrested for it, too.

This is the mindset Lincoln was up against. 


Too bad you are not told.  You should have been.

Entire books have been written about Lincoln being "reluctant" to free the slaves, or that he "didn't care"  and was "just your typical white supremacist" .

You can cherry pick from about 12 Lincoln quotes --"ripped from their full meaning"  as Frederick Douglass explained, to distort Lincoln.


Get the full quotes -- in context.  Over and over -- and over, and over, and over, Lincoln spoke against slavery, spoke of the evils, of how it is a cancer and will either destroy the Union, or the Union will destroy it.

Yes, Lincoln cared about Union -- no shit.  And he cared about it, for the exact reason he said.  Keeping the Union together meant slavery dies.  Either slavery goes, or the Union goes.  

Slavery will either spread -- like a cancer, or be killed itself, Lincoln said.  And the only way to stop the spread of slavery in US, was to keep Union together.

So stupid people -- even many academics -- distort Lincoln's full speeches, and ignore the basic fact. Lincoln was so eager to keep Union together, because otherwise, Southern scum lunatics (yes, they were) were going to spread slavery to the rest of the US.

And Southern leaders boasted of that. Southern leaders boasted (see below) they would spread slavery to the rest of the USA, including the North. Yes, the North.

Davis made it very clear.

He will spread slavery to the entire West and North.

Makes a difference, when you know what Southern leaders boasted of, till they lost.  Davis was not the only Southern leader boasting out the ass about spreading slavery by force.   Too bad you were never told. 

  More than anything, get Lincoln's kick ass actions, 1846 on.  We show you some of that here.   


Douglass was not fucking around.
Either was Lincoln.

We won't either. 




Lincoln was actually kicking slavery in the ass -- 1846 on. 

Actions matter -- ever hear of that?

Lincoln did speak against slavery, powerfully, thousands of times. Read the full speeches instead of out of context bullshit.

But his actions were even more amazing.  

Lincoln  first got attention for what he did, not the speeches, which came later.  In 1846.  Lincoln was powerfully challenging slavery with his words and actions in 1846.

In 1846 he stood up to President Polk for stealing land from Mexico -- starting a war to steal it- - so Southern leaders could spread slavery into the newly stolen land.



Southern leaders -- from the South -- made it a crime to speak or write against slavery in Kansas.  You are not even told that "detail".

But what did Lincoln do, after Southern leaders (yes, Southern leaders)  made it a crime to speak or write against slavery ?

He fucking went to Kansas and spoke against slavery there.

   Did your "history" tell you that?  No.  Very likely, your history teacher didn't know. 

Lincoln's trip  to Kansas after Southern leaders made it a crime to speak against slavery in Kansas.   

Lincoln was a "traitor"  and Southern owned publications called for his death, and the death of anyone in Kansas who dared speak against slavery and not obey their law to "accept and respect" slavery. 

All that is whitewashed away now -- people are told some watered down bullshit about this book or that being "banned".  Wrong, dumb ass,  there was not a list of banned books.  Rather, anything could get you arrested and or tortured in the South on a given day.  Including this woman who was tortured in public for saying the wrong thing in Memphis, just before the Civil War.


Where Lincoln stood for speech against slavery

After Southern leaders made it a crime to do so.

After Southern leaders made it a crime to do so.


This is the basic failure of US "historians"  re the US Civil War.  They have whitewashed the vile and violent actions of Southern leaders, including tortures, hangings, and whippings of WHITES who dared speak against slavery.

Southern leaders said Lincoln was trying to "exterminate" the white race by being so radical. 

Not all newspapers repeated Douglas "Nigger rant"  that Lincoln "wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers" -- they were more politically correct, but the message was the same.

Lincoln will make your daughters be with "Niggers".



Others were beaten, arrested, hung, or tortured for saying things that Lincoln dared say, when he said it, where he said it. 


Part of the problem with understanding Lincoln -- we have never taught how ISIS like Southern leaders were, like their boasting of torture and killing to spread slavery. You can't understand Lincoln, unless you understand  how crazy and violent SOuthern leaders were. 


Lincoln stood up to President Polk and called him on creating a war against Mexico in order to double the size of slavery

Lincoln called Polk out on that. 

How many people know that?  Very basic, very pivotal fact.

Why not mention it, in a clear way.   You may seem this expressed is such weak ass language as "Lincoln had concerns about slavery in the newly acquired land"   What the fuck?

How about this -- Lincoln stood up to Polk, accused him of stealing land by killing, to spread slavery, and then fought against slavery going into that land, recently stolen.

Why not write things in a truthful, no bullshit way?


Really -- how many people know?


Lincoln was hated for all this -- all the speeches he made against slavery -- challenging Polk in the 1840's, pushing to stop US from stealing land to spread slavery, then trying to stop that land from being used for slavery.

So Lincoln was very well known as someone who was kicking slavery in the ass as hard as he could.    The public was not with him -- he lost the Senate race, in 1856 and 1858.  One reason -- he was "too radical"   and "obsessed with equality for the Niggers"  said Stephen A Douglas.

Virtually all of the South hated Lincoln, and many in the North.  They accused Lincoln of "not supporting the troops".

Sound familiar?   

But since you are not even taught that US stole that land, killed, invaded, and stolen that land,  it's not that surprising  you are not told that Lincoln stood up against it, and challenged the President on that. 

But -"historians"  should know, even if they can't figure a way to tell you.  And they sure as hell should not tell you Lincoln was "nothing special" about slavery, because he was kicking ass, and would kick a lot harder when he got public support to do so.


The spot in Kansas Lincoln spoke -- after Southern leaders
made it illegal to speak or write against slavery in Kansas.

Maybe your "history" teacher needs to learn before they teach something? 

The reasons they said that?  Lincoln's actions and FULL speeches.  


We have yet to meet any history teacher who even knows Lincoln went to Kansas, and that Southern leaders made it a crime to speak against slavery in Kansas.  But Lincoln went there, and spoke against slavery, even though people were still being killed in Kansas for speaking against slavery.

Guess who knew that?  Frederick Douglass knew.

This was not a "throw away line".  Lincoln "wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers"  was the central message of the Lincoln Douglas debates, the emotional knife Douglas (Stephen A) used to stab Lincoln again, and again, and again.  And it worked -- he won.

Southern soldiers said the same exact thing -- you will make our daughters sleep with Niggers.

A quote by southern soldier, at the time, why they fought.

No one told you this either, did they?

There are entire college courses devoted to the Lincoln Douglas debates.   Thousands of articles, hundreds of books.  

Yet only one that we know of  even mentions Douglas screamed about Lincoln being a "Nigger Worshipper" in a clear way.  Even in that book, the revelations about this are far toward the back of the book. That book was by Allen Guelzo, and even  he did not see fit to make that a basic point.

And Lincoln said that too.   See his letter to Speed below.  Lincoln, and most of the people alive in 1850-1860, were well aware of the killings, tortures, and hangings going on in Kansas and the South, against anyone who spoke or published newspapers against slavery.


In Atlon Illinois, Lincoln's friend was killed,
possibly burned to death, 
for publishing anti-slavery newspaper.

No one told you that.  Yet, it's a BFD.



Stephen A Douglas was well known -- after he threw in with Jefferson Davis -- of using the word "Nigger"  in the Senate, and was admonished for it by Charles Sumner.  Later Douglas would sit by why Sumner was beaten almost to death on the Senate floor.   Newspapers showed Douglas seated nearby - smiling.

Douglas was also involved in the violent beating of another man --he himself took part in that one.  His partner, Senator Atchison, was the leader of 800 men in Kansas, and Atchison boasted of killing and torturing to spread slavery.

You are not told any of that, are you? Not one damn word! 

 The drawing of beating of Charles Sumner. Douglas is drawn in -- far right, shown smiling. Douglas taunted Sumner before the beating, saying he should be kicked "like a dog".

You wont see one biography of Douglas that sees fit to even mention this (that we know of).  Nor do they mention Douglas screamed repeatedly to crowds in the Lincoln Douglas debates that Lincoln "wants your daughters to sleep with Niggers".

Holy shit, if it was important enough for Douglas himself to scream this, repeatedly, and run back and forth yelling it to the crowds, maybe it's important enough to mention?


  Later, Douglas would essentially confess to John Palmer, that he had been conniving all this while, but claimed he was really trying to set up Jeff Davis to be violently attacked, not Lincoln.

To understand Lincoln, you have to get his actions, and his full speeches, in context.   Turns out, Lincoln's enemies were right -- he was radical as hell for the "Nigger equality" in speech and actions.

But- - you have to get Lincoln's FULL speech, not the edited bullshit selected to distort. 



Lincoln video -- taken nearly verbatim from debates. 

 This is from a 1939 movie -- it does not have the "Nigger" words, nor the taunting of Lincoln for being with a "Nigger" and a white woman in a carriage that day. That was whitewashed. 

The movie did not show Douglas running from side to side of the stage shouting Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with "Niggers".  But he sure did, as several newspapers reported at the time,

In fact the Quincy paper called it, as if it was a regular thing, the Douglas "Nigger rant".  

Douglas even claimed Lincoln was a "traitor" and a "revolutionary"  for saying blacks should be considered human beings -- persons -- for purpose of the Constitution.

The US Supreme Court, Douglas correctly pointed out, had just declared blacks can not be seen as people for purposes of the Constitution.  You are not told that, either.  Lincoln was a "dangerous" man fermenting a "civil war" for not respecting the Dred Scott decision -- a decision that literally ordered (yes ordered) that the federal government MUST protect slavery. Jefferson Davis and Stephen A Douglas insisted the federal government must protect slavery even in Kansas, which had rejected slavery by 95% vote.

Killing of Lincoln's friend - possibly burned to death in the NORTH   for publishing anti slavery newspaper. No one told you.

Douglas even mentioned Lovejoy's brother in the speeches -- he did that to INCREASE the hatred of Lincoln.   



Essentially we are taught a watered down version of Jeff Davis's narrative of "state's rights"   and a "complex set of variables about agrarian vs industrial economies."

Bullshit. When you read SOUTHERN leaders own War Ultimatums, own speeches, own documents at the time, they focused on violence - - remember that -- violence, to spread slavery. I can't help it if your "history" teacher  tells you some other bullshit.   Southern leaders themselves were practically shouting from the rooftops, they will spread slavery North and West, and they would kill to do so.



Lincoln's genius was how to get the country to change their fear and hatred of blacks, at least enough to help fight the civil war. 

 In fact, while Lincoln did get the 13th Amendment passed in Congress -- it still had to go to the states.  Did you know that?  (Amazing, most people have no clue).

Do you know it was not at all certain the states would pass it! 

 But Lincoln's death -- yes his death -- created a huge tenderness of feeling for Lincoln, and played a major role in the state's ratifying it themselves.

"Public Sentiment Is Everything" said Lincoln in Ottowa Ill, one of the debates sites. 

LINCOLN "In this and like communities, public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment, nothing can fail; without it nothing can succeed.

Consequently he who molds public sentiment, goes deeper than he who enacts statutes or pronounces decisions. He makes statutes and decisions possible or impossible to be executed

Lincoln could not just "pronounce" things as president.  Even Northern generals at the time said they would not fight if the war was about slavery.

So Lincoln spoke about Union. Wisely so. 

  • Lincoln was hated by people North and South for being a "Nigger lover"  or "Negro Worshiper"  
  • LIncoln had an amazing and powerful history of kicking slavery in the ass at every opportunity, long before he ran for President
  • Per Southern leaders, Lincoln was going to "exterminate the white race"  just by stopping the spread of slavery.  

  • Lincoln was going to "burn us to death slowly" just by stopping the spread of slavery into Kansas -- which already rejected slavery by 90%.

  • Lincoln stood up to slave owners and President Polk, accused them of starting a war to spread slavery into land the US was stealing from Mexico (yes, US stole land from Mexico)


Turns out, Stephen A Douglas was right, Lincoln did repeat "over and over" that blacks are equal to whites.   

But no one told you that. 


 Remember, those boasting of killing to spread slavery, were not some drunks. They were the US Senator, and his men.  Their own documents.  Their own publications.

And his logic -- God gave the black race to the white race, to enslave.  Blacks were "so inferior" they were not persons, not human beings, for purposes of the Constitution.

Davis was clear -- Kansas must not just allow slavery, but respect and protect slavery.  Clear too, about his logic -- blacks were not persons, and could not be seen as persons.

Did anyone ever tell you that?   Did anyone ever tell you the logic of Southern War Ultimatums, was that blacks are not human beings?  But by decree -- inferior beings.


Lincoln, however, said this over, and over.  Dred Scott was part of the ruse, to make blacks not human beings, but property.   He said that, over and over in one way or another.  
Was he wrong?   No -- Davis boasted of it. Lincoln and many people said this -- Dred Scott decision was to make    blacks into NOT HUMAN BEINGS.  

Davis said that -- but he was proud of it.

You can't just go around hanging and torturing, nor can you go around issuing war ultimatums (see below) without bringing God and survival into it.  So, Southern leaders did just that.

Stephen A Douglas regularly, and with great fanfare, great emphasis,  used the "Nigger will sleep with your daughter" argument, but you could not possibly know that, from any US text book.  Not one mentions it, much less show how powerful and violent the arguments were about this. 

In an informal quick survey (we are conducting a more systematic survey) of text books and major prize winning biographies of Lincoln, we found no US textbooks even mentioned that Lincoln was hated North and South for being a "radical" for equality for the "Nigger"  who wants your daughters to sleep with "Niggers".


"You really don't know Lincoln, unless you know what ISIS like bastards he was up against.  US text books don't tell you about the religious lunatics, violent fucks, and sociopaths Lincoln had to defeat, to end slavery." 

Why would Northern papers call Lincoln a "Negro worshipper"?

Why would Stephen A Douglas, repeatedly, loudly, claim Lincoln was obsessed with equality for the "Nigger"  and wants your daughter to "sleep with Niggers"?

Why would Southern crowds cheer, and sometimes lynch or torture people, when told Lincoln was going to "exterminate" the white race by stopping the spread of slavery.


Let me repeat that -- Lincoln, they said, was going to exterminate the white race, just by stopping the spread of slavery.


Southern leaders claimed Lincoln -- and anyone else -- who even spoke against the SPREAD of slavery, was really out to destroy the South, and would exterminate the white race by this "Ungodly"   resistance to slavery.


Slavery was "OF GOD"  and to be against slavery, was to be against GOD himself, said the Texas official Declaration of secession.  

 Individual Southern leaders claimed they would like to see every Yankee dead, because of the "heretic belief that slavery is wrong."

The North, said Southern documents, was committing a "grave sin"  just to be against the SPREAD of slavery.

And no one ever fucking told you?

Yes, it's  hard to teach this, but imagine trying to live through it.  This is why Lincoln got a bullet in the brain.

To justify torture, rape, selling children -- all the vile things that make up slavery you are not told about, you had to defend it by extreme means - by claiming it was from GOD.

SO they did.

  Because GOD ordained slavery, and the white race will be destroyed- -your daughter will sleep with "Niggers" as Douglas said repeatedly.

NO one even mentioned this.This is the hysteria of the era -- pumped up by men like Jefferson Davis, Robert Toombs, Stephen A Douglas  and others, in the North.


Go on, ask a "historian" or even a  history teacher about this.  They won't know what you are talking about, first, because they get their information from books, not original sources -- from Southern speeches, Southern newspapers, Southern sermons, Southern documents, Southern declarations.

But they will still pretend they know all this, then say "Oh I never said it was not a factor, sure, it was a factor, but there is a multitude of factors....."

Blah blah blah.   Southern leaders THEMSELVES said why the killed and tortured.  Not me. Southern leaders themselves wrote their War Ultimatums, not me.   Southern leaders themselves boasted and promised to keep killing till slavery was spread. 

This is the kind of basic shit you never heard of, because Southern school boards sure as hell was not going to allow this in the national text books.   Texas was, and still is, the state most responsible for US text book printing, and due to the school boards there, editing.

 New York paper Making fun of Lincoln for his "worship" of the Negro.  Lincoln said blacks were equal to whites under the law, any black is equal to any white.  Go read the Lincoln Douglas full debates, not the edited bullshit.
One paper in New York suggested Lincoln should obey Southern War Ultimatums -- did you even know Southern leaders made specific  War Ultimatums?  

The War Ultimatums -- Kansas (already a free state by this time)  must respect and protect slavery. Not just accept it, but RESPECT slavery and PROTECT slavery.

Kansas was a free state by then.

So when Lincoln said slavery will spread everywhere -- or it will end -- he was not kidding.  Southern leaders said the same thing, before and after Lincoln gave House DIvided Speech.

See, facts matter.

No one mentions that, not in any US textbook.  So it's impossible to know what Lincoln actually faced, from those text books, which have been whitewashed since text books started, to the satisfaction of Southern state school boards, mostly Texas.

In fact it seems wacky, when you first hear that Southern leaders were killing and torturing, and boasting of it, to spread slavery into areas that were already free states. But that was well known at the time. Lincoln wrote and spoke about it, but oddly, that's not given any credence in US text books. Those kinds of things, Southern school boards would not allow in books.  Not ever. Not once. 

Lincoln was not that blunt, in public. In letters, yes, he was far more blunt.  But in public, Lincoln spoke a much kinder and more diplomatic tone.  Yet stopping the spread of cancer (slavery was a cancer, that would kill the hose, or be killed if it could not spread) was always the central point Lincoln made.  



If you don't know even US Senators were attacked, on and off the Senate floor, one was beaten almost to death, for speaking about things Lincoln spoke about, you don't know much

Lincoln had to deal with that -- and he did.  This is a perfect example of  how Lincoln dealt with it, see the video.




Detractors game -- is to quote Lincoln out of context, and ignore his actions.

You can pull up 500 Lincoln quotes, in about 2 seconds.  Fine.  Get all Lincoln quotes, there are plenty that kick ass-- 

But quotes won't do it -- you need context, and his full actions. 

 Springfield, Illinois
August 24, 1855
Dear Speed:

You know what a poor correspondent I am. Ever since I received your very agreeable letter of the 22nd. of May I have been intending to write you in answer to it. 

You suggest that in political action now, you and I would differ. I suppose we would; not quite as much, however, as you may think. You know I dislike slavery; and you fully admit the abstract wrong of it. So far there is no cause of difference. But you say that sooner than yield your legal right to the slave -- especially at the bidding of those who are not themselves interested, you would see the Union dissolved. I am not aware that any one is bidding you to yield that right; very certainly Iam not. I leave that matter entirely to yourself.

 I also acknowledge your rights and my obligations, under the constitution, in regard to your slaves. I confess I hate to see the poor creatures hunted down, and caught, and carried back to their stripes, and unrewarded toils; but I bite my lip and keep quiet. In 1841 you and I had together a tedious low-water trip, on a Steam Boat from Louisville to St. Louis. You may remember, as I well do, that from Louisville to the mouth of the Ohio, there were, on board, ten or a dozen slaves, shackled together with irons. That sight was a continued torment to me; and I see something like it every time I touch the Ohio, or any other slave-border. It is hardly fair for you to assume, that I have no interest in a thing which has, and continually exercises, the power of making me miserable. You ought rather to appreciate how much the great body of the Northern people do crucify their feelings, in order to maintain their loyalty to the Constitution and the Union.

I do oppose the extension of slavery, because my judgment and feelings so prompt me; and I am under no obligation to the contrary. If for this you and I must differ, differ we must.

 You say if you were President, you would send an army and hang the leaders of the Missouri outrages upon the Kansas elections; still, if Kansas fairly votes herself a slave state, she must be admitted, or the Union must be dissolved. 

But how if she votes herself a slave State unfairly -- that is, by the very means for which you say you would hang men? Must she still be admitted, or the Union be dissolved? 

That will be the phase of the question when it first becomes a practical one.

In your assumption that there may be a fair decision of the slavery question in Kansas, I plainly see you and I would differ about the Nebraska-law. I look upon that enactment not as a law, but as violence from the beginning. It was conceived in violence, passed in violence, is maintained in violence, and is being executed in violence. I say it was conceived in violence, because the destruction of the Missouri Compromise, under the circumstances, was nothing less than violence. It was passed in violence, because it could not have passed at all but for the votes of many members in violence of the known will of their constituents. 

It is maintained in violence because the elections since, clearly demand it's repeal, and this demand is openly disregarded. You say men ought to be hung for the way they are executing that law; and I say the way it is being executed is quite as good as any of its antecedents. ( ed. Meaning, this is the way slavery has always been spread) 

It (Kansas Act) is being executed in the precise way which was intended from the first; else why does no Nebraska man express astonishment or condemnation? Poor Reeder is the only public man who has been silly enough to believe that any thing like fairness was ever intended; and he has been bravely undeceived.

That Kansas will form a Slave Constitution, and, with it, will ask to be admitted into the Union, I take to be an already settled question; and so settled by the very means you so pointedly condemn.

 By every principle of law, ever held by any court, North or South, every negro taken to Kansas is free; yet, in utter disregard of this -- in the spirit of violence merely -- that beautiful Legislature gravely passes a law to hang men who shall venture to inform a negro of his legal rights. This is the substance, and real object of the law. If, like Haman, they should hang upon the gallows of their own building, I shall not be among the mourners for their fate.

In my humble sphere, I shall advocate the restoration of the Missouri Compromise, so long as Kansas remains a territory; and when, by all these foul means, it seeks to come into the Union as a Slave-state, I shall oppose it. I am very loth, in any case, to withhold my assent to the enjoyment of property acquired, or located, in good faith; but I do not admit that good faith, in taking a negro to Kansas, to be held in slavery, is a possibility with any man.

 Any man who has sense enough to be the controller of his own property, has too much sense to misunderstand the outrageous character of this whole Nebraska business.

But I digress. In my opposition to the admission of Kansas I shall have some company; but we may be beaten. If we are, I shall not, on that account, attempt to dissolve the Union.

On the contrary, if we succeed, there will be enough of us to take care of the Union. I think it probable, however, we shall be beaten.

 Standing as a unit among yourselves, you can, directly, and indirectly, bribe enough of our men to carry the day -- as you could on an open proposition to establish monarchy. Get hold of some man in the North, whose position and ability is such, that he can make the support of your measure -- whatever it may be -- a democratic party necessity, and the thing is done.

 Appropos [sic] of this, let me tell you an anecdote. Douglas introduced the Nebraska bill in January. In February afterwards, there was a call session of the Illinois Legislature. Of the one hundred members composing the two branches of that body, about seventy were democrats. These latter held a caucus, in which the Nebraska bill was talked of, if not formally discussed. It was thereby discovered that just three, and no more, were in favor of the measure.

 In a day of two Dougla's [sic] orders came on to have resolutions passed approving the bill; and they were passed by large majorities!!! 

The truth of this is vouched for by a bolting democratic member. The masses too, democratic as well as whig, were even, nearer unanimous [sic] against it; but as soon as the party necessity of supporting it, became apparent, the way the democracy began to see the wisdom and justice of it, was perfectly astonishing.

You say if Kansas fairly votes herself a free state, as a Christian you will rather rejoice at it. All decent slaveholders talk that way; and I do not doubt their candor. But they never vote that way.

 Although in a private letter, or conversation, you will express your preference that Kansas shall be free, you would vote for no man for Congress who would say the same thing publicly.

 No such man could be elected from any district in a slave-state. You think Stringfellow & Co. ought to be hung; and yet, at the next presidential election you will vote for the exact type and representative of Stringfellow. 

The slave-breeders and slave-traders, are a small, odious and detested class, among you; and yet in politics, they dictate the course of all of you, and are as completely your masters, as you are the master of your own negroes.

 You inquire where I now stand. That is a disputed point -- I think I am a whig; but others say there are no whigs, and that I am an abolitionist. When I was in Washington I voted for the Wilmot Proviso as good as forty times, and I never heard of any one attempting to unwhig me for that. I now do no more than oppose the extension of slavery.

I am not a Know-Nothing. That is certain. How could I be? How can any one who abhors the oppression of negroes, be in favor or degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes

" When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics." When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocracy [sic].
Mary will probably pass a day to two in Louisville in October. My kindest regards to Mrs. Speed. On the leading subject of this letter, I have more of her sympathy that I have of yours. And yet let me say I am

Yours friend forever

A. Lincoln


Every "history teacher" I ever met, insists they know the Lincoln Douglas debates well, and read them all.

  Not one of them seems to have a clue that Kansas Act was, as Lincoln said repeatedly, was a ruse, a violent effort, to spread slavery where it could not possibly go by an honest vote of the citizens.

Why don't most history teachers  know that?  No one told them. 




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. David Rice Atchison boasted of it.   He made his own war ultimatums, in his own speeches and writings.  We will kill until we have slavery to the Pacific.

Atchison even told his men, they would be "amply paid" and could keep anything they stole from the houses they looted.


WTF?  Was Frederick Douglass stupid?   Did he not know about Lincoln's letter to Greeley at New York Times? (Yes, he knew, he ran it in his own paper).   See more about that famous letter, below...

Yes of course Douglass knew, and he knew the "full measure" of Lincoln, not the edited or out of context bullshit.

And more, Douglass knew what was going on at the time. 

Lincoln was called  "obsessed with equality for the Nigger" -- repeatedly, loudly, proudly, in public, to his face, by the most powerful speaker of that generation.   And no one ever bothered to tell you. 

Not in any text book. Not one text book. Let me repeat that, not one single text book in US, has ever made it clear, Lincoln was repeatedly, emphatically, to his face, charged again and again, with "obsession for equality for the Nigger".

But those text books will include partial quotes, out of context,  by Lincoln, to claim Lincoln didn't really care, or Lincoln was reluctant.

Bullshit -- Lincoln was reluctant, okay, reluctant to get his head smashed in, or a get a bullet to the brain, any sooner than he did. And such things did befall folks who, even in Illinois, were perceived as too radical for the "black man"  because the "black man" wanted to "sleep with, be with, your daughter".

Black men. Would take. Your wife. Your daughter.

Lincoln would "slowly burn us to death"  by not allowing the spread of slavery. That's right, very clear, just not allowing the spread of slavery -- was like burning us to death.

The open letters to the public by other Southern governers, much the same thing. Lincoln would destroy the WHITE RACE, just by not allowing us to spread slavery.

That was the big fear, and Southern leaders jumped up and down on that raw never. Lincoln was vile -- he was destroying the white race, don't believe him that he does not intend to force the South to give up slavery.  He will destroy us, just by trying to keep slavery out of the rest of the country.

Were you ever told? FUCK NO. 

Go on, go find any text book that mentions it, much less shows what a BFD that meme of Lincoln being obsessed with equality was, and the impact it had on how he stayed alive, and how he hoped to win elections despite the hateful physical attacks on others, including his friends, and the threats to him personally.

No one told you that, did they?.

And that was in the NORTH -- remember that.



In the South, Lincoln was accused of destroying the white race.  Southern editors and leaders boasted that electing Lincoln -- or anyone against the spread -- yes spread -- of slavery was like an ACT OF WAR.

Did you ever see that in your history book. Electing anyone against the SPREAD of slavery was an act of war?   Think about that, think real hard. 

And they boasted of it, they did not admit it, they fucking boasted of it. And they were not bluffing. 

To understand those times, you either know, or you don't know,  how important it was that  Lincoln was regularly called "Nigger lover"  and "Negro Worshiper" by powerful people in the NORTH.  Not the South -- they were even worse.  

But in the NORTH, Lincoln was hated by the most powerful people in Washington, including US Senators Davis, Douglas, and David Rice Atchison, because he was"obsessed with equality for the Nigger".



Did Jefferson Davis hate Lincoln personally, did Stephen A Douglas?   Did Davis really believe God sent him the black race to enslave?   Did Davis really believe it was cruel to blacks NOT to enslave them?

No.   But Davis, Douglas, Atchison, Toombs, etc, got power, got status, got prestige, got money, from spouting such things.   Yet their followers, who believed this shit, were dangerous. God ordained slavery - the white race will be exterminated? - Lincoln wants your daughters to sleep with "Niggers"?

It worked.

All those things, and many more, Southern leaders shouted to crowds, said in 100 ways, and it worked.   Those who did that demagoguery got the leadership, got the presidency of confederacy, got to be US Senators.

Did Foner ever tell you that Lincoln was widely accused of being a "Nigger lover"?  Did McPherson, Catton?Did Ken Burns mention anything like it? 

No. Only one historian I know mentioned this basic aspect, and he did that rather late in one book, that book is " Lincoln and Douglas, by Allen Guelzo.

But even Guelzo presents the "Nigger rant" in an almost comical way, showing Douglas went from side to side of the stage shouting it, perhaps even drunk.   The "Nigger rant"  was always about white women being with,sleeping with, or walking with black women.

So even when this "Nigger rant" habit of Douglas is mentioned, you don't see it, or hear of it, in context of the killing sprees, the violence, the hangings and tortures.   Southern leaders hit this again, and again.  If we do not spread slavery, we will be equal to blacks, and we will be exterminated, or have to live in equality with them.

Unless you understand that -- you can not know or even imagine how fucking radical Lincoln was, to stand up, and push back, and claim in the most amazing powerful term, that "any slave is the equal of me any and man.....  she is my equal, and the equal of Judge Douglas.

Gee-- wonder why they never show those parts of the speech? Wonder why they don't show how fucking stunning Lincoln was, to push back against the "You want our daughters to sleep with Niggers" accusation.



Even as early as 1890, "old timers" like one of the men who founded the GOP,   had to remind the public that at one time, abolitionist was a dirty word, on parr now with child molesters in some areas.  

Palmer also explained how vile and violent the south was.  Southern leaders used to brag -- before they lost the Civil War, that they would spread slavery anywhere they wanted, and Northern men would run away.   Jeff Davis himself said he could wipe up all the blood spilled in the South, if any way came because of the efforts to spread slavery.  He did not believe anyone would stand up to the manhood of the South, and he was nearly correct, until a man named John Brown proved them wrong, in Kansas,



Who did what, to whom, is real history. All else is bullshit.

STEPHEN A DOUGLAS  Speaking, making the case, a vote for Lincoln is a vote for your wife being with "Niggers" 

"The last time I came here to make a speech, while talking from the stand to you, people of Freeport,  I saw a carriage—and a magnificent one it was—drive up and take a position on the outside of the crowd; a beautiful young lady was sitting on the box-seat, whilst Fred Douglass and her mother reclined inside, and the owner of the carriage acted as driver. I saw this in your own town........ All I have to say on that subject is, that those of you who believe that the negro is your equal and ought to be on an equality with you socially, politically, and legally, have a right to entertain those opinions, and of course will vote for Mr. Lincoln.  (No, No, down with the Niggers)"
Papers often, even at the time, cleaned up "Nigger"  to "Negro", but some quoted Douglas verbatim. Douglas was well known for using "Nigger"  even on Senate floor,  and was admonished for it, repeatedly.   Even Southern Senators used the term "Negro"  in such settings., Not Stephen A Douglas. 

Lincoln did not want war -- of course.  And he avoided it as much as possible, partly because he knew the North could lose. Over and over Lincoln said it was better to persuade -- to inform and persuade, and he promised not to use force unless force was used first to spread slavery -- as it had been.

But the war already started, the killing already was a fact of life. The South had issued War Ultimatums and boasted about being at war since 1854, but that is another story. WAR ALREADY STARTED 1854

Davis official address to people of the North, promising to put blacks in the North "back on the slave status"  in perpetuity.

Stunning, and no one told us. 


Yes the South issued two sets of War Ultimatums, and both times, they were already killing, already claimed to be at war.  And they made it very very clear what the issue was -- the spread of slavery. 

Near as I can tell, historian James McPherson mentioned Southern War Ultimatums a total of one time. ONE time. 

Foner never mentioned Southern War Ultimatums at all,  that I could see.  Certainly he never expounded on it, made it clear what they were, and who was doing the killing and torturing surrounding those war ultimatums.

Killing and torture surrounded the war ultimatums.  They were not issued as a joke.

Certainly Foner did not elaborate on it,  no mention in the indexes in his books I own.

Let me repeat that -- no mention of Southern War Ultimatums.

No mention of the loud, proud, emotional and effective campaign against Lincoln for being "obsessed  with equality for the Nigger"

Not one word. Do you supposed Foner is just stupid?  No, he is not stupid.  But he is willing to lay down bullshit book after bullshit book, some of it true perhaps, but none of it honest or candid on what Lincoln actually faced, in any clear way.

It's  not that Foner is deceptive -- it's that he is human. And humans, even historians (maybe especially historians) love to lay out the bullshit if it makes them seem smart.

Foner is no worse than others -- but sadly he is no better, either.

You won't get things like I show here from Catton, or McPherson -- not in candid ways. McPherson, as far as I know only mentioned Southern War Ultimatums once, did not explain the tortures and killings going on along with it, did not show the speeches going along with the war ultimatums -- and did not even explain what they were.

Let me repeat that -- supposedly our "greatest"  Lincoln historian alive today simply avoided any candid explanation of what Lincoln faced.  Maybe it's too ugly, maybe he wanted to be able to speak to Southern groups -- I don't know.  But he never made it clear, though McPherson in the end had high regard for Lincoln, but for some reason McPherson is and was too chicken shit to show candidly Southern leaders in the vile but true light of what they actually did, and what they actually bragged about.

Specifically, McPherson praised Davis as essentially a man of principle,  and never candidly covered Davis role in paying for killers to invade Kansas, and the war ultimatums at that time, and his role in war ultimatums of 1861.  Yet surely he had to know of both.

Hell, as far as I know, McPherson did not see fit to even show Southern War Ultimatums, though he used that term once.

Seriously, how the hell do you cover the Civil War, and not focus at some point on Southern War Ultimatums,  showing who made them, showing who they were killing at the time, and what they bragged about.

It makes no sense to me -- other than to assume these guys have a narrative, and these kind of facs do not jibe with their narrative.

By the way  -- narrative is another way of saying bullshit.  Bullshit is not necessarily true, not necessarily false.  A narrative is what the author creates to hope you think he is smart.

Seriously -- that's what a narrative it. 




Southern leaders in 1856 and again in 1861  issued the War Ultimatums.

Yet you will not find  even that basic information - from what I see -- in Foner, Catton, etc etc.   Certainly the Southern War Ultimatums and speeches surrounding them, and the killing surroundings the speeches, they do not make front and center.

How did Lincoln find  out about Southern War Ultimatums? (yes, he found out).  It was not hard -- he read of them in Southern speeches and newspapers at the time. He was well aware -- exceedingly aware -- of what Southern leaders demanded.
And he spoke about it. 

 Let me repeat that, McPherson mentioned it ONE time. Foner not at all.  Certainly they and many "historians" never even mentioned Southern leaders bragging out the War Ultimatums, and they never showed the speeches by Southern leaders bragging of killing to spread slavery.

How can that  be? 

I will show you how that can be.


  No there is no dispute the South issued War Ultimatums, in fact the South was quit proud of this, and it was headlines in Southern papers. Furthermore the ultimatums were no surprise to anyone, because this is exactly what Southern leaders had been demanding -- and sending killers to enforce -- for 5 years before the Civil War. 

In fact, other than rent billboard space for the next 150 years, Southern leaders at the time were proud and loud about their War Ultimatums, and the basic issue - the SPREAD of slavery, and the spread of it specifically by force.

No -- not for state's rights. Just the reverse. Once Kansas rejected slavery in 1853, and repeatedly and overwhelmingly voted against slavery in every actual election since, Southern leaders rejected "states rights"  for the "slavery issue".

Yes, state's had rights for other  things, but not to keep slavery out. Slavery became a "protected right" that not only the government could not stop, but the federal government "must protect" slavery and must not recognize blacks as human beings (as property). 

How the hell did all that get left out?

In otherwords, how the hell did what we study today be so drastically wrong and different than what Southern leaders themselves were boasting about.

There are 4 words that explain this in short.

The toxic power of bullshit.


Who am I to say such things?

My name is Mark Curran.  I am a wanna be screen writer, not a wanna be historian.  In fact, I suggest we get rid of the term historian, it is so meaningless,

About 10 years ago, I started a screenplay about the use of slave dogs to guard and catch slaves before the Civil War.  I was fascinated to learn slave dogs were absolutely essentially.  You would need 20  white males to effectively guard 100 or more slaves at a given plantation, but only 2 or 3 slave dogs. 

Virtually every slave owner had slave dogs, and it became a business to raise them -- teach them to attack and even kill any slave caught running at night.  Being torn apart by dogs was an effective deterrent -- and the big reason children typically did not try to escape. They could not run fast enough to stay ahead of the dogs, and they would be literally mauled to death if they we caught.

In researching these horrific things for the screenplay, I read thousands of Southern newspapers from that era. It's a hobby I continue to this day.   Not just newspapers,  but Southern books, Southern documents. and Southern speeches.

Lincoln was going to "exterminate the white race"  because Lincoln was a "Nigger Worshipper".

Lincoln will "burn us to death slowly"  just by stopping the spread of slavery.