Monday, July 1, 2024

TRASHING LINCOLN FOR FUN AND PROFIT

HUMAN NATURE -- THEN AND NOW.

CHEERING CROWDS

Lesson One.




THE DOUGLAS 
ENTERTAIN MENT 

HIS OWN PRIVATE TRAIN

CANNON FIRE WHEN HE EXITS THE TRAIN 

BRASS BAND  


 WOMENS "BOSOMS"


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......an increasing  number of attractive white married women... are running off with Niggers....


NEWSPAPER were divided-- "Douglas newspapers"  trashed Lincoln lmuch the same as Stephen DOuglas did-- minus the train

An Indiana Newspaper  said Lincoln and Frederick DOuglass (by name)were the cause of "an increasing  number of attractive married white women running off with Niggers

Nothing was to hateful or false for Douglas or his shit head newspapers to claim

"Horace Greeley,  supposedly an abolitionists, was so enamored- - so "enthralled" about Douglas  that Greeley wanted Douglas, not Lincoln, to be US Senator.

Douglas was so popular -- that abolitionist (supposed abolitionist)  Horace Greeley tried his best to stop Lincoln from even being on the ballot of Senate.

THERE IS MORE :  MUCH MORE 

Douglas interlaced hatefulness with humor, and  music.  Live music at the time was about the biggest trill to add to anything

Douglas had a cannon go off as he exited his persona train.

He had a brass band played --and at time they carried him to the debate platform, crowd cheered the whole thing., 

It was perfomace art -- they had no baseball yet --they had mo movie stars.  Folks loved going to lively intresting things

More people attend the debates that lived in the city that held it.
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DRUNK?

Douglas even brought a dozen or so women, dressed up with sashes across their "bosom"  (as they called the chest area at the time) that said "No man but a white man"

Men naturally enjoyed that trick

That "no man but a white man,"  as everyone knew--was Douglas false claim that LInconl "wanted your daughters to hug (or marry or sleep with -whatever Douglas dreamed up at the time)

The women were shouting back, in a sense from their bosom-- NO MAN BUT A WHITE MAN
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The great Entertainer --

But first -- first  Douglas made jokes and entertained. 

Douglas put on a fucking show

 MAKE AMERICAN GREAT AGAIN  
1958 VERSION



We checked, best we could, 200 text books about slavery Douglas and Civil war.

Not one of them even mentioned that DOUGLAS go crowd to cheer this:

WE CAN BE THE ADMIRATION...
AND TERROR OF THE WORLD

 Crowds cheered, by the way.  This was big fuckind deal to Douglas, and his ally atthe time -- Jefferson Davis.

We can be the admiration of the world -- if Mr Lincoln will get out of the way.

Why? Because Lincoln since 1856,  exposed these fuckers, like Davis who were already violently  speading. Davis and others bragged had a duty to GOD to spead slavery to the Pacific

This is EACTLY what Douglas trashed Lincoln for --Lincoln (and those who supported Lincoln) were  in their way -to spread slavery to the Pacific  

 

Quincy papers said Douglas went back and forth on the stage, almost screaming the words out -- as spittle rolled down his chi,.

 Quincy papers said he looked drunk.  And maybe he was.



PREAMBLE TO CONSTITUTION 
HEREBY KICKED OUT

AS AN ABSURDITY 

Particularly Douglas whirl wind speaking to was to push Jeff Davis boasting about "Dred Scott decision."

The Dred  decision ordered-- essentially ordered three things

1) that blacks are  not human beings and can not be made human by legislation

2) that blacks have no right to life liberty or the pursuit of happiness, regardless of the preamble of the Constitution which

3) That the federal government must help the spread of slavery


OTHER THINGS DOUGLAS USED

TO GET CROWDS

WHY IT WORKED THEN


WHY IT WORKS NOW

GET CROWDS TO  HATET

What was going on when Douglas debated Lincoln?

Do you know?

South leaders at the time  claimed it was a joy -- a joy -- to kill to spread slavery for GOD.  Thats one thing your teachers probably forgot

That was the joy of hate to for Jeff Davis and US Senator David Rice Atchison.



The man wholater  burned women and children to death in Lawrence Kansas -- burned them to death because their city allowed an anti-slavery newspaper to publish

HE call it the "happiest day of my life".  Joy,  burning to death,  the leader bragged - was a JOY

It was fun. His men cheered.  Crowds whould cheer such boasting.

As Quantrill bragged - that this was the most joyous day of his life --the bodies of  women and children were still smodlering.  His men were probably sill stealing from their bodies--

and man named David Rice Atchison actually bragged to his men - they could take all the goods from the homes and men they killed

He bragged about -- and - he called it aJoy

A joy.  

Here is another chit head -- on FOX SPEW -- bragging of the JOY OF HATE.  




 HERE IS WHAT CROWDS CHEERED IN LINCOLN DOUGLAS DEBATES

DOUGHLAS GOT THEM TO CHEER -- THAT IS WHAT DOULGAS WAS FAMOUS FOR

READ THEM -- 




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"NO MAN OF HIS TIME DID MORE TO INTENSIFY THE HATE OF THE NEGRO"

Frederick Douglas in a letter to Susan B Anthony

Important to know -
 PRO TIP ONE
WHAT WORKS 

Douglas was famous for his big crowds, North and South,  before most people even heard the name Lincoln.  


Douglas seemed addicted to - almost craving crowds.  

 It was theater for him.  A joy for the audience

Douglas brought brass bands to some debates and had them carry him to the debate stage.

Douglas had cannon fire when he emerged from his private train car.    It was the County Fair and Apple pie time.

At one debate-- Douglas had women dressed with "sashes" across their bosom as they said then.  On the bosom-- attention getting part of the female body -- were the words "No Man 

IT was Hulk Hogan before Hulk went bald. 

The crowd wanted the insults They laughted.

They enjoyed.  
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80% WHITE MEN HATED OR FEARD 

Since 1850  Douglas was famous for insults, for attacking anyone.   His go to insult about the "Compromise of 1850" which he pushed through
was that  "You must want equality for the Nigger".

SOCIAL EQUALITY = SEXUAL  ACCESS



WHY ABOLITIONIST 

WERE NOT FOR SOCIAL EQUALITY!!

It stuns almost everyone today -- even history "experts"-- that abolitionist, at least the abolitions most people can now name n  were against -- against freedom for slaves if that means blacks would have "social equality"

Furthermore --  they were stupid if they said otherwise.   People were still being killed for saying such things --  men were hanged even in Boston for SAYING blacks should be have total equal rights (social equality -- aka --allowed to date sleep with or marry white women.)

These abolitionist  were not sorta against freeing slaves, or kinda against freeing slaves -- they were passionately against freeing slaves, if that mean social equality.  They named their organizations on 

Today  teachers throw around the term "social equality,"  

At the time it was double speak for sexual access.  A polite way to say white women can date or even marry a black man.



 It was not the equality for life liberty ant the pursuit of happiness that people hated or feared

"More attractive married white women are  running off with Niggers"  

"LINCOLN CAUSES MORE NIGGERS TO  RUN OFF WWHITE WOMEN "


The IT was black men might sleep with or marry white women that mattered most.
For example, headlines in Indiana newspapers claiming Lincoln and Frederick Douglass had caused "attractive married women"  to "run off with Niggers.


To people at that time,  almost no one could imagine a white woman and black man being married.   Black men - for 100 more years, could be and would be killed  for  sexual contact with a white woman

I was not Congress who allowed black men to marry white women --  it was no public outcry --it was the Supreme Court that rule  black men and white women had the right to be married.
 
For example, headlines in Indiana newspapers claiming Lincoln and Frederick Douglass had caused "attractive married women"  to "run off with Niggers.

Not everyone believe those lies, but just most folks don't believe every Lunatic Donny lie -- it has and effect.   And -- many dumb shits to believe everything Donny tells them.

So Lincoln knew exactly what Douglas would through at him.  Lincoln knew that 80% of whites --the only voter were white males--hated or feared "social equality"



Since 80% of whites hated or feared black men would take white women -- and Douglas loved to spread that hate --any one, anyone for social equality --was hit with "You must want equality for Niggers"

And it worked.

DOUGLAS THE BUSY GUY

Douglas spoke more often, in more places to more people than anyone else of  his time -- he drew the biggest crowds.  Douglas was loud, dramatic -- hateful.  He trashed anyone that questioned him Lincoln until Gettysburg

WHY LINCOLN FOLLOWED DOUGLAS AROUND 


Douglas was on a speaking tour -- for Jeff Davis, as it turns out,  to praise the Dred Scott decision -- a profoundly important fact  most historians do not bother to mention,  The  speaking tour for Davis--- praising the Dred Scott decision --which is exactly when and why Lincoln wanted to expose Douglas for his adoration of Davis and the Dred Scott decision.

TRIVIA -- BUT NOT REALLY

We know from Jeff Davis's wife - Varina,  that Douglas was a frequent guest a Davis's house in Washington DC (It's still there!)   

Varina  apparently did not like Douglas,  claimed he smelled so bad that she hoped his new wife would open those tall windows-- in the mansion Douglas just built for his new young "hot" looking wife.



SOUND FAMILIAR?   
     
       
Of course Lincoln wanted no such thing as your daughter to sleep with _____, your wife to walk down the street with ______ your children to be in school with _____ and your judge and juries to be _____.

Douglas threw such lies at Lincoln -- no matter if Lincoln was there or not.  

OLD PRO AT IT  ALREADY 

Douglas used such attacks on others, since 1850.  He was the master of making anyone look as if they wanted your daughters to sleep with _____ etc.

Lincoln of course already knew what Douglas would lie about and insult him with.

Lincoln also knew why.

Years before - in the 1840's -- Lincoln and DOuglas were lawyers in the same part of Illinois, and at times not only travelled together, but slept in the same bed.

The "hotels" at the time were sometimes more like shacks, with one bed for 4 our five people.  Sometimes paying guest just slept on the floor.  The food was almost unable.

At that time -- Douglas was like Lincoln -- slavery is an evil that corrupts everything,  and must end eventually.   Start the ending b stopping the spread.

But Douglas suddenly flipped-- famously flipped -after become friends with Jeff Davis.  Particularly Douglas trashed Kansas Act - but days later,  Douglas flipped to be theSenator who personally pushed it through -with Davis direction 

Douglas and Davis personally took Kansas Act for President Pierce to sign.   Lincoln and others knew exactly why Douglas flipped to Davis over night.

You should know too.

Lincoln also knew Douglas was Jeff Davis's defacto spokesmen for Dred Scott decision.

Still Lincoln had to explain himself -- and he did.  You probably had no clue - but HOW --HOW Lincoln responded 


Here is something else Stephen Douglas used to  make stupid shits and fools to cheer -- you probably had no clue




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Frederick Douglass knew - as did Lincoln  --  that  Stephen A Douglas  since 1854, was the man who, more than anyone else incited hatred for the black man.

Douglas got crowds to yell at Lincoln "Down with Niggers."  Lincoln had to wait for the yelling to subside, before he could respond.

Douglas arrival in any city could be news for days before and after  his arrival.  Always Douglas degraded the black race --and then lied to say he did not care if slavery spread or not.

decision which ordered- directed - that blacks are not humans - that blacks can not be seen as humans.

The Dred decision also directed -- that the federal government must -- must help spread slavery.  A basic fact  that idiotically more "history" teachers do not know, much less teach.


www.mrlinncolnandfreedom.org/library/mr-lincolnscontemoraries/frederick-douglas


Douglas incited hatred of Lincoln and incited hatred of the "Negro"   for one reason.   

It worked.    Douglas spoke to more people -- more states (North and South)  and to bigger crowds than anyone

Biggest crowds.  Cheering crowds.  

Douglas got crows to cheer.   Dramatic- - endlessly dramatic, with a booming voice,  he would go side to side of the stage.

Douglas often rode to speeches in his own train car.

Douglas  at times had brass bands announce his arrival -- and used a cannon -- a cannon -- to fire  

SHOW THE BOSOOM!

NO MAN BUT A WHITE MAN 

Douglas arranged for women  to accompany him on his train (supplied by the man who would run against Lincoln for President in 1864-- Georg McClellan).  In Charleston Ill the women arrived on Douglas's train -- and went with him to stage -- as brass band played


NO MAN BUT A WHITE MAN?  WHERE DID DOUGLAS GET THAT SLOGAN? 

We all would know that -- if our history teachers were worth a damn. Douglas used that phrase -- "No man but a white man"  in other speeches.

Crowds yelled "DOWN WITH NIGGERS"  Exactly what Douglas knew they would -- and wanted them to yeall.

That was Douglas's  goal -- cheering crowds -- make crowds think Lincoln wants your daughters to "sleep with"  N------

 Not everyone cheered,  but hate mongers getting cheering crowds is 90% of the battle.   

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LINCOLN LOST -- THEN WON
BY DESIGN

Lincoln did lose this election for  senate - and only won White House because 3 "pro spread of slavery"  fools ran against him.   Most  white people still hated or feared black men in the election.

Lincoln won Presidency even though slave states refused to let him on the ballot, or did not count his votes. 

The women wore sashes on their chest -- guess -- guess what the women had embroiderd on their sashe  -- go on guess.

You would know - - we all would know -- if your teachers taught this candidly.   Douglas had imprinted "NO MAN BUT A WHITE MAN

Douglas For years Douglas and Lincoln were of like minds -- slavery should end, but end over time.  End with compensation to slave owners if needed.   And end peacefully, with agreement of the South.

Why the change? 

Why did Douglas flip 180 on that, and why flip on Kansas act almost over night?

Because it got him power -- and crowds.  

Why incite crowd to yell "Down with Negroes" - -- only Douglas never used the word Negro according to the stenographer of the debates -- he used the word N word.

Quincy newspapers reported Douglas used that word -- the N word--with a special kind of hate.  He almost spit the word out.


WHY --

Why pump up hate-- ?  Because Douglas knew that 80% -- a stunning four out of five,  people in much of Illinois hated and feared the black race. 

Hate = political gold.  That equaled power and attention.  Douglas was an egomaniac -he craved cheering crowds.

This was the best way to get cheering crowds.

This was the best way to get power. 

Illinois made it a crime -- a crime -- for blacks to move into Illinois in 1858.   Illinois also nearly voted to be a slave state in 1818.



We omit entirely the vulgar and hateful attacks against Lincoln.  Yet that is the ony reason Douglas won the Senate race, defeating Lincoln.

It was not just Douglas that attacked Lincoln as "Niggerlover"  or such nonsense.  Douglas newspapers - thousands of them -- also claimed Lincoln was trying to get white women to sleep with black men. 

See 
Douglas -- and hundreds of others, North and South,  inserted the name "Frederick Douglass" and Lincoln in the same sentence, to prove Lincoln was  doing exactly what Frederick Douglass was accused of....



Douglas would have defeated Lincoln for  White House--except  3 anti-Lincoln, pro spread slavery candidates split the vote

It's important know --1

Those who  spoke of "equality of the races" were still being attacked, even killed by the time of the famous debates.

Douglas, Stephen A Douglas, was famous for getting crowds, and the nation to fear and hate blacks.   He drew the biggest crowns in the US, more than abolitionist, more than Presidents.    

He was dramatic-- for example he would arrive in his own railroad car,  and be carreid by his supporters,  with a brassband playing.

Horrace Greely said DOuglas was the best public speaker in the nation -- at a time when great speakers were common.  

Horrace Greely was so impressed with Douglas speaking,  he tried to get Douglas to be the Senate candidate in the Republican party - not Lincoln.

Douglas was as much an entertainer -- and a hate monger.   Crows want to hear him berate Lincoln - or anyone else against slavery.

The official stenographer of the debates said Douglas never or rarely used the term "Negro."   Douglas use the term "Nigger." 

Not only in public speeches -- but even when asked in the Senate by Charles Sumner not to use "N---" word, Douglas used the N---word there, too

Doulgas well know for antics  -- and his voice, his tone.   Small... he was called "Little Giant "-- and thcould run side to side,stop suddenly,  So much so Frederick Douglas wrote to Susan B Anthony,  is a letter that still exist -- the 

Within two minutes of starting the first debate (Ottawa  IL)  Douglas told the crowd 

The Supreme Court -- in Dred Scot decision -- officially defined blacks as "not human being."  Stephen A Douglas was on a "national tour" of sorts to brag about Dred Scott decision

  by the time Lincoln could get Douglas to debate.

In Kansas,  Jeff Davis had, since 1856,  2000 paid Texas men invade terrorize and later kill to spread slavery.

That group of men Davis sent was the second group - Davis sent the first group, a much small group, in 1854.


Atchison was Stephen A Douglas partner in Kansas Act -- when Atchison soon after the Kansas Act passed,  rushed to Kansas using paid men to invade -- later kill -- to spread slavery,  guess who defended Atchison?

Stephen A Douglas.  That's who defended Atchison.

By the way -- the same year,  as archivist discovered-- someone gave Stephen A Douglas a slave plantation in Mississippi after he passed Kansas Act (with Atchison).  There were over 150 slaves on Douglas's plantation.

Douglas "forgot" to mention that in or after the debates. Most people alive at the time were well aware Douglas flipped to push Kansas Act -- to curry favor with Jeff Davis.

But it was not until rather recently we know by paperwork, from DOuglas's attorney . Douglas was given much more than a pat on the head by Davis. Someone gave him a slave plantation -- 5 or 10 million dollars worth.

Douglas was given a slave plantation.

Soon after Douglas flipped from trashing Kansas Act -- to pass it

Don't forget -  up pops a slave plantation.
 


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WHO LED THE TWO GROUPS OF MEN 
HIRED TO INVADE KANSAS?

Senator David Rice Atchison.

Atchison business and political partern? 

STEPHEN A Douglas.
The on site leader of both groups who invade  1854 and 1856-- was Stephen A DOuglas  business partner, and Douglas's partner to pass Kansas Act in 1854,  

BEATEN ALMOST TO DEATH
ON SENATE FLOOR MAY 1856

What was  Charles Sumner talking about on Senate floor -- May of 1856-- when he was beaten into a coma?
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This is such a basic easy question,  if you don't know- slap your teachers.
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Sumner in that famous speech was talking about Stephen A Douglas.  Sumner was talking about Senator David Rice Atchison. By name. 

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DOUGLAS LAUGHS  - WHY?




Sumner in great detail,  for two days, in great length,  showed evidence, newspaper reports,  killing by killing,  torture by torture, murder by murder, of Kansas citizens by men under control of --  SENATOR ATCHISON.

Sumner in great detail, in great length  showed how another Senator helped Atchison to pass Kansas Act.  Who was that other Senator?  STEPHEN A DOUGLAS.
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SUMNER  NAMED DOUGLAS 

DOUGLA LAUGHS


Notice the small chubby guy in the back?
Thats Stephen A Douglas laughing as Sumner is beaten.

Douglas claimed he was not there that day.  Not only was Douglas there that day, it's likely Douglas (as Sgt. At Arms of the Senate)  let  Preston Brooks in.   

Preston was not allowed on the floor at all -- and  Senate doors were always locked from the inside during debates like this.

Only the Sgt.At Arms could allow the doors to open.  That was Stephen A Douglas.

Furthermore,  Douglas already told Sumner the day before, during a break in the first day of Sumner's  amazing speech.  Douglas told Sumner he "should be beaten like a dog" for the way Sumner talked.

Sumner was insulting, yes,  and every word of it was true,  every word of it was about those who used the Senate to enslave torture and kill to spread slavery.

__________Preston Brooks___________

In the debates-- Lincoln names the people who concocted Kansas Act -- and Dred Scott decision -- as "machinery" to spread slavery "North South East and West"

In those names -- Stephen A Douglas, Jeff Davis,  Roger Taney.

No one told you?  They should have.



And Douglas used exactly that hate for blacks --- to get more famous.   And he pumped up the hate even more.

Most whites -- ALREADY -- hated blacks, feared black men would "sleep with your daughters."

Thursday, October 19, 2017

POLITICAL GOLD 1858



Long before  Trump got crowds of dumb shits to cheer that  he (Trump) wants  Putin to kill everyone he wants to kill in NATO countries on June 2 2024*


And before Lunatic Trump chanted "Hang Mike Pence,  Hang Mike Pence,  Hang Mike Pence" on January 6 2021


another lying bastard  got crowds of fools to cheer.    Stephen A Douglas,  like Trump,  was suking up to a shit.   Trump sucks up to Vladamire Putin -- if you did not know,  while Douglas was sucking up to Jefferson Davis


another lunatic got crowds to cheer "WE CAN BE THE POWER AND TERROR OF THE WORLD"







We have all heard about the Lincoln debates --

but did you know what Stephen A Douglas was doing  the weeks before the debates?

Probably not.  Lincoln spoke of this -- what Douglas was doing for weeks.   Douglas was going around the state calling Lincoln things like   


Do you know why Lincoln had to chase Douglas down in person to debate-- but Douglas would just speak until far past dark, as in Havana Illinois

Do you know why Douglas spent weeks boasting about Roger Taney -- and the Dred Scott decision?





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IS THAT WHAT YOU  WANT?


Robert HItt - the unofficial stenographer of the debates -- said that Douglas rarely used the word "Negro."   Douglas used "Nigger" and even then added scorn for effect.

When Charles Sumner asked Douglas not to use that term in on the Senate floor -- Douglas went right on using that word

Even Senators from the South did not use that word-- therefore Stephen A Douglas could have been the only Senator to do so.

Douglas did it of course for a reason -- and the reason was to trash his opponent

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IT WORKED 

CROWD YELLED AT LINCOLN 
 "DOWN WITH NIGGERS" 
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Probably not-  no US text books seem to feel that's important

DID YOUR HISTORY TEACHER
TELL YOU THIS?

UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WARNING:   We wish it were not necessary  to use the "n-word," -- sadly it is necessary in this context.  If that bothers you, please go no further.

 HATE = POLITICAL GOLD 



THERE IS A REASON OUR TEXT BOOKS RARELY SHOW THE UGLY.   
The ugly like this:_


ALREADY by the 1840s Stephen A Douglas was the most active and popular speaker slamming his enemies.

He drew crowds no matter where he went.  At any criticism, Douglas attacked.  Horace Greeley said Douglas was the best speaker in the country -- in a time when great speakers were almost common.
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DOUGLAS'S KNIVES  

  His most effect "knife" as Lincoln called Douglas's attacks, was about slaves,  and spreading slavery.

Anyone who questioned or challenged Douglas was hit by insults -- insults that destroyed other politicians -  such was "you want our daughters to sleep with ..."  



While Douglas said repeatedly he did not care if slavery spread or not-  Douglas  unfailingly took the side of those in Congress who were already supporting the violent spread of slavery. intense  members of Congress who were part of the current violent attempt to spead slavery.

Douglas was something of a terror in the Senate, where he trashed other regularly -- always or almost always about the SPREAD of slavery
In fact no one wanted to debate Douglas because of Douglas's skill and pumping up hate.  Dou 

As Frederick Douglass wrote to Susan B Anthony,  Stephen A Douglas the man -- more than anyone else-- to incite hatred for the  Negro.

And the fucking reason Douglas was so good at it,  is that it worked.  Pumping hate -- as he did over and over-worked to get him political power

It worked North and South to get him the biggest crowds- bigger than speeches by abolitions, bigger crowds than speeches by the Presidents

Douglas was an entertainer -- crowds cheered.   Cities with population of 4,000 might have a crowd of 5 thousand for Douglas's speeches.  And 12 thousand for Lincoln Douglas debates.

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Other Douglas attacks on Lincoln, before during and after the famous debates...
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"LINCOLN WAS NOTHING SPECIAL"

Oh, really?

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We hear -- from the most famous  historians of our time, Pulitzer Prize Winners no less - that Lincoln was "nothing special" regarding race.

He "evolved."   He was "no abolitionist," but in the end he "reluctantly"  did the right thing.  A fucking lie

He saw blacks as inferior. A fucking lie

He refused to join "abolitionists" who were eager to end slavery. A fucking lie

He was willing to have slavery continue as long as the South wanted it to continue. A fucking lie

He had no plan to end slavery.  A fucking lie 

He felt the South had a right to have slavery. A fucking lie

His concern was only the "extension" of slavery. A fucking lie

On and on. 

Not to say Foner is a lying fucking bastard, but Foner seemed  to avoid using the full quote -- and avoid using contest. 

We can learn  hundreds  things - from Fonner -- he rains down trivia with the best best of them. But it's not really possible to learn from him what actually happened
_________________________GAME OF QUOTES ______

Each and every time, Foner (and others)  have a quote.  Always a quote.  

It's like Foner, and others, are  playing cards - and the only thing on the card was a part of a quote.   No full quotes -- or few.

No context  that is even more important.

Foner knows so much -- is so well read,  that for him to chit on Lincoln it seems impossible he did this accidently.

Foner knows -- as well as anyone - that to omit part of the story  is to create a new lie.  Yet the fuck head omitted what actually matter, over and over and over.

Foner also knows that the best historians of slavery and Civil war -- were SOuth leaders themselves -- until they lost

It seems -- I could be wrong-- that Foner avoided any such information if that might oblierate Eric's decpeptive narrative,

Foner is not a factul "historian:" as I call them, he is rather a story teller -- a narrator-- who for some odd reason omits whatever would destroy or challenge his story/narration.

Foner looks like a scholar,  he is paid like a scholar.


Why not show his full quotes when those are precisely the opposite?   Stunningly Foner and others pick quotes that are refuted in the same speech by Lincoln himself.     

For 
Of course, that is human nature.  Historians do it as often, maybe more so, than journalist.   History is no more or less reliable than journalism.    
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Why not show -- in context, and chronological order -- why he was hated for being the most radical person running for office?

Why not show why -- why and that -- Frederick Douglass said Lincoln was " swift, radical, zealous and determined" to end slavery -- 

Why not at least mention that.

Oh, and by the way, Frederick Douglass was fucking right. This may explain how right
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Yet at the time -- Lincoln was hated for exactly the opposite. Why?_______________________________ 
PRO TIP    Chicago and Bloomington papers both reported Douglas won the election - precisely because  80% -- a stunning four out of five -- white males in the Southern half of the state hated or fear Lincoln due to  Douglas's "Nigger rants" against Lincoln.

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 WHY THE CROWD YELLED AT LINCOLN
Because the best speaker of the century just pumped them up with  hate and fear -- that's why.  

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VIDEO RE-ENACTMENT -- 

HOW LINCOLN RESPONDED 


How Lincoln responded ..   CLICK on the picture or this link. 1940 movie about Lincoln in his Illinois years.   

The dialog in the brief 4 minute scene does not show the sexually vulgar attacks. 

Nor show Douglas's well known use of "Nigger rants"  as Quincy papers called it.

Does not show  Douglas (in other speeches) getting crowds to laugh about the "stench of niggers-- is that what you want to smell" kind of hate mongering.

Nor show Douglas running back and forth yelling and his paid women to walk with him with sign "No Man But a White Man" and other details.

Yet as to the basics, though profoundly cleaned up, the video is an  accurate depiction of the basic dynamic

[         DOUGLAS ATTACKS   
          LINCOLN DEFENDS   ]

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DOUGLAS ATTACK: YOUR DAUGHTER WILL SLEEP WITH NIGGERS
                    VS  
LINCOLN DEFENDS: ALl MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL BY THE D
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ECLARATION OFINDEPENDCE

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Lincoln  already knew how deceitful,  hateful, vulgar, and sexually crude Douglas could be.   

Douglas proved that in a series of speeches and actions to get power since his 1854 vile fraud of Kansas Act -- passed specifically at the request of Jeff Davis..   The fact Jeff Davis and Stephen A Douglas passed Kansas Act to help slavery spread is a basic reality -- the most profound vile act in US history - escapes most people.

It did not escape Lincoln, Charles Sumner, Frederick Douglass, and thousands of others at the time.  But it escapes teachers and text books now, which idiotically, almost unbelievably,  teach Kansas Act as about "popular sovereignty.

Jeff Davis  and Stephen A Douglas sold the fraud as "popular sovereignty"  after which Davis sent paid killers to Kansas to invade torture and kill to spread slavery -- justified by Kansas Act and Dred Scott decision -- which is the very basis  for everything Lincoln did from that day forward.  


To teach Kansas Act as popular sovereignty is a special kind of stupid. That's like teaching Japan bombing Pearl Harbor as a gift to FDR.

  For four years Douglas had been helping south leaders Jeff Davis and US Senator Atchison to spread slavery to the Pacific.  That might some as a surprise  -- but only to those who failed to read the debates or Lincoln's full speeches before the debates. And only to those who have essentially no awareness of what the fuck  happened in the 1850s.

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Historian Allan C Guelzo plausibly blames Lincoln for being pulled off message by Douglas's vulgar attacks on Lincoln.

Yet Lincoln was not debating 160 years later. 

Lincoln debated in front of crowds that mostly hated or feared black men would take white women to bed, and feared that their sons would die in a war of extermination.

Lincoln knew that the crowds -- even those that supported him -- feared black males.  Lincoln knew even abolitionist in his own cabinet hated or  blacks, almost with much of the public.

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✔️When Lincoln said,  as he did at least 100x, that Dred Scott and Kansas Act were the "machinery" South created to spread slavery -- this is what he was talking about

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We have a bizarre  dynamic in education of trashing Lincoln for not caring about equality....  
while at the time Lincoln was most targeted for being "obsessed" for "Nigger  equality. "
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More than anyone else of his time

Douglas incited hatred to the black race.

Frederick Douglas, 1861. Letter to Susan B Anthony.

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We do not teach Douglas today as any kind of a hate or fear monger.  Yet he was well known as such then, especially by people like Frederick Douglass

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Stephen Douglas's basic defense of his passage of Kansas Act and of his defense of Dred Scott -- was that "Niggers" will take your daughters, walk with "Niggers"  and your sons will die "in a war of extermination.

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NOT THE ONLY ONE 

Douglas,  however, was not the only hate demagogue -- that attack was common.  It was common because it worked.. 
 Anyone for any kind of equality -- were attacked as "Nigger worshipers" or "black Republicans" or that they  "want Niggers"  to sleep with your daughters.   

Not everyone believed it -- of course,   But enough did believe it that Douglas won. 

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"MR LINCOLN IS OBSESSED FOR NIGGER EQUALITY"

Douglas carried around a satchel of Lincoln's speeches, and would pull out papers with Lincoln's quotes supporting equality for blacks.   

It was on this basis--Lincoln's quotes -- and actions -- that Douglas proves Lincoln was "obsessed for Nigger equality."

Douglas pointed out Lincoln's actions....

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 CHEST ADVERTISING?

NO MAN BUT A WHITE MAN
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Douglas  took women with him to the debates, on his personal train ( a train provided by George McClellan, like Stephen Douglas, a personal friend and frequent dinner guest of Jeff Davis)

 Douglas would exit his train marked by firing off a cannon,  a brass band would play.

 In two debate,  Douglas's women walked near him as we walked - or was carried -- the debate site.

The women were dressed in sashes that read "No Man But a White Man'    

The women's chests reiterates Douglas attack that Lincoln wanted "NIggers" sleeping with white women.

According to Chicago and Bloomington papers --  Douglas won because 80% of the white males in Southern part of the state believed Douglas.

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LINCOLNS 1849 LEGISLATION 
TO END SLAVERY IN DC 


Just in case you had no idea Lincoln personally wrote  1849  legislation (and would be President when he signed such legislation in 1864) and personally pushed it in Congress,  here is it,  still in the Library of Congress, since 1849.

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LINCOLN'S 1849 LEGISLATION TO END SLAVERY IN DISTRIC OF COLUMBIA

LINCOLN AS PRESIDENT WOULD SIGN SIMILIAR LEGISLATION.